He did absolutely nothing wrong but still apologized to people who are DIRECTLY opposed to his customers and the core thematic of his game.
Of he played his cards right he could have turned the whole situation into his favor, but now he looks like giant dork.
Zachary Morgan
who cares
William Wright
He's french.
Jordan Harris
Cry more.
Evan Perry
He probably didn't want the release of his game to be overshadowed by bullshit political controversy. Apologizing cost him nothing and dismissed the issue. You could argue that it cost him his pride or whatever, but I imagine his pride comes from the quality of his work, not from gamer gate arguments on twitter. Cry about it all you want but some people just want to make games without drama. To be honest, you shouldn't care about any of this.
Jace Phillips
>He probably didn't want the release of his game to be overshadowed by bullshit political controversy. And it wouldn't have been had he not apologized.
Blake Allen
>Raw Fury: apologize or we'll stop publishing your game >Tim: okay His mistake was apologizing onstage, he should've kept it online like the drama was Feels like apologizing onstage would only hurt sales if anything
Christopher Garcia
I'm not sure about that, they're pretty rabid you know. Them.
Carter Anderson
Crying SJWs have never affected the sales of anything.
Jace Robinson
Apologize for what?
Joshua Thomas
He doesn't have the money to disobey the publisher
Kayden Fisher
>“I’m against feminism, because it’s getting more and more skewed" >"How dare you!" >"I surrender."
Caleb Ross
why cant you just fuck off with your e-drama tabloid bullshit jesus fucking christ
William Moore
I'm sure all those outraged feminists will buy his game now that he apologized.
Ian Roberts
This tweet. He's literally Hitler.
Ryan Price
this game seems like shit anyone who is hyping it is a tateless faggot
its a walking sim in 2d with pixels and shaders, nothing special to be there, should've been fucking art not a game
Julian Cook
This is the most absurd part, he didn't even say anything offensive and yet his publisher still felt the need to publicly bend him over.
Ryder White
He's not wrong, because that's what it was before it became something else.
Aaron Parker
Suck a fat chode you whiny cunt, you're the only one who cares at this point
Gabriel Russell
I love this meme
Gabriel Kelly
>Apologise to people "boycotting" his game when they had no intention of buying it anyway
Robert Hall
>apologizing cost him nothing i guess you're right ,he's french after all. It's not like they have any self respect left anymore or anything like that
Juan Foster
t. Tim
Aaron Young
That's what it was supposed to be.
In reality it turned out quite differently because neckbeards.
John Perry
Did you read the statement from the game's publisher? It was desperate, they really thought this was a thing that was going to sink them. I'm sure they forced him to say something.
Jayden Johnson
I'd like to send my warm thanks to the Sup Forums boogieman for definitely not existing and/or shitting anything up.
Jeremiah Richardson
It's not a meme. The whole gamergate shit started because of games getting good reviews due to personal relationships with the reviewers. Then it devolved into something entirely different.
Joseph Barnes
this GG is a shitshow NOW, but it was originally something very different.
Carter Wood
It all started because some guy got cucked and spread nasty rumours about his ex. It kept going because for some reason the moral guardians of gaming refused to admit they were ever wrong and wanted to see blood. It was a shitshow from the beginning.
Wyatt Cooper
...
Carter Robinson
>nasty rumours They're not rumours if there's evidence.
Lucas Clark
GG started because some shitty game designer fucked journalist for good reviews. When called on it they went for full damage control like retards and blown it out of proportion into the biggest internet drama of a decade.
Luis Rogers
Notch went from lefty cuck to based pretty quick. What happened?
Cameron Peterson
they're not rumors if the bitch admitted it herself
Jonathan Baker
He's got all the money he will ever need. He can say whatever the fuck he wants now.
Jordan Perry
2 billion appeared in his account.
Elijah Martinez
Right, so rumours. Dude you're supposed to say "coverage" and deny anyone ever said it was review, and anyway it's not about her, you fucking false flag SJW shill
Carson Cruz
beta male who now having all the money he needs and never having to work again realizes all that PC ladder climbing shit is useless, that it's sycophantic garbage.
Henry Torres
>the moral guardians of gaming refused to admit they were ever wrong Yeah, lefty journalists did do that.
Brandon Gomez
He has no more friends after selling out so now he's trying to score internet points to compensate
Mason Gomez
[citation needed]
Juan Sullivan
>why did the frenchie back down I guess we'll never know
Robert Parker
>It all started because some guy got cucked and spread nasty rumours about his ex.
Why the fuck do you faggot always try to frame it this way? It was about fucking collusion between journalists who were intentionally pushing narratives. People get cheated on by the millions and nobody gives a shit, why would the Zoe case be so spectacular that people form a movement because of it?
Ethan Cook
>It was about fucking collusion between journalists who were intentionally pushing narratives. Right, which also didn't fucking happen. If you can't get your story straight you'd expect at least one person to say something that's true. >why would the Zoe case be so spectacular that people form a movement because of it? Because Sup Forums already hated her and they thought they had her by the short ones.
Aaron Lewis
this
Alexander Reed
>Unretouched
I mean, yes I'd totally fuck them if I was homo, but that's a bullshot
Chase Wood
>Sup Forums already hated her Literally no one even knew who she was. She made some choose-your-own-adventure webpage "game" or something.
Leo Howard
>people unironically defending gaming journalists and Zoe How much time did you spend in your NeoGAF echo chamber?
Logan Jackson
You would make a great feminist, you got the bitch handwave argument down.
Brody Hughes
>Sup Forums already hated Zoe please Nobody ever gave a fuck about you Everyone with brain wanted to see Kotaku burning
Jack Green
>Right, which also didn't fucking happen. Except for the fact it was discovered there was a secret journalist internet group doing just that. Try again.
>Because Sup Forums already hated her Almost nobody knew who she was before, dipshit, hence why t was so suspicious such a no-name slut was suddenly getting a strange amount of attention for a PowerPoint "game." You should probably go back to whatever safe space moot recruited you people from.
Leo Hill
I didn't. I had heard about depression quest prior to the whole debacle and I remember thinking it was a neat if somewhat low-budget text adventure. I didn't really think much off it. This has nothing to do with the game itself.
Christian Howard
Dude, reply to me.
If there was no collusion, explain the simultaneous release of all the "gamers are over" articles.
Nathan Gonzalez
Most of the first few gamergate threads were mostly just regular Sup Forums folk having fun at the expense of Zoe. Let's not pretend we have some kind of moral high ground here.
Nathan Fisher
dude five guys burgers and fries lmao
Those were fun threads though
Zachary Gomez
I enjoyed them and participated actively but it all went wrong when retarded fags started thinking they were glorious crusaders for some noble cause.
And we're still feeling that pain today.
Jonathan Powell
>Literally no one even knew who she was. False. There was a significant amount of resentment from the earlier "Wizardchan incident" (also trumped up) that carried over into gamergate. Zero. I formed my opinion on gamergate on Sup Forums. Well, at least you admit you had an axe to grind and ethics were less important to you than levering the appearance of caring about ethics as a weapon against your ideological opponents. Sure, I can accept you weren't all there for the same targets. >Except for the fact it was discovered there was a secret journalist internet group doing just that. You mean the perfectly normal mailing list that showed absolutely no actual evidence of collusion when you had a look at it and that you also only got your hands on weeks after you decided to get mad about it? Incidentally, do you realise that Milo had used this exact tactic to slander a bunch of liberal journos before? Who are you?
Anyway it was kind of a hot topic in the middle of a giant reactionary gamer manbaby shitstorm so two or three people wrote their opinion articles on it and they went viral and more outlets reported on it. It's perfectly normal. I don't even see what they would stand to gain from orchestrating it behind the scenes because it's unnecessary and they had nothing to gain from it.
Josiah White
Nobody gives a shit about moral high ground too. And Zoe was not singled out in being smeared, it was the beta orbiters that wanted to shift all the attention to her because it's easier to frame it as "ebil MRA attack"
Isaac Parker
He doesnt need to pretend to like those people for the sake of his job.His life is set for his children, grand children and a few generations after that.
David Howard
>nasty rumours sup zoe
Logan Diaz
agree with this, but I'm still gonna buy it kind of sad where the industry is going, a loud minority dictates how everything should be, even more so in the indie community most of the 'normal' people wouldn't even know about shit like this if he didn't do it on stage
Leo Collins
I'll buy it if I like the gameplay, all we've seen is a short trailer so far so i'm withholding judgment I have to say it looks gorgeous though, and the premise sounds interesting
Adam Moore
Eh, we smeared her full on and we enjoyed it. Don't lie.
Caleb Long
>Apologizing cost him nothing WRONG
Gabriel King
>Apologizing cost him nothing
Wrong. It always does. Always.
Nathan Allen
No the mailing list that specifically gave "marginalised" people jobs and literally sent them fucking fruit baskets
Jose White
Notch the scammer and fraudster crying about anyone.
Ayden Sanders
Where's the ethical violation?
Connor Long
>people are calling GG "manbabies" when it was the journalist who went full damage control when shady shit they were making went out to the public the fuck happened?
Aiden Murphy
>and spread nasty rumours about his ex Oh man I love this. The idea here is that enough time has passed that people have hopefully forgotten about the details of the incident, so now Zoe's friends and the Neogaf cucks can start claiming it was just "rumours" and "unproven", to re-write history and make her the good guy.
Gabriel Martinez
>appearance of caring about ethics as a weapon against your ideological opponents Fucking please Nobody wanted any ideology in video games but those pathetic sites started to pop out and spam ever loving shit of pretentious articles and political propaganda disguised as "reviews and news"
The only thing we were wrong about back then was thinking that devs and publishers listen to them because they are journos, not because just like them they are political agitators or people simply profiting from PC culture.
John Gray
What's his twitter
Wyatt Reyes
Nobody lies but you seem to speak in half truths. Zoe wanted to be focused on for victim bucks and was most likely posting here as well.
Leo James
>What, I'm not allowed to lie about people and try to ruin their careers and spread their nudes in the name of ethics? This is censorship! What are they hiding! How dumb are you people actually? The more details we actually knew the less of a case you had. In the end we were left with exactly one sentence by one guy in a list of fifty games before he and Zoe were together and before he was working at Kotaku. It's not just "politics" when you disagree with it. Gamergate was heavily politicised and cheered on explicitly right-wing politics all the time. Do you have a single fact to back that up? Being harassed isn't nearly as lucrative as you think and probably not worth the hassle. But yeah, I'm sure Zoe was lying all those times she said she wanted you to leave her alone and she faked the thousands of tweets every day. In fact she was all of gamergate.
Benjamin Ward
Would've been bulletproof if he simply said "the gamergate people SHOULD be for" Another reason why letting everyone have a twitter account was a mistake, but I guess it's just Darwinism at this point
Luis Morgan
GG quickly became like 15 different discussions under one banner. The angle of shitty, politically motivated video game journalism was the discussion that the least people cared about. The angle of feminism vs. anti-feminism shitflinging was the discussion that most people wanted to participate in to validate their beliefs.
People aren't going to remember Game Journos Pros and how the indie scene was/is being horribly manipulated because they never cared. Saying that you "support GG" is just going to make everyone think you're one of those people who go on twitter and harass women because to 95% of people that is their only understanding of what GG was.
Hudson Williams
yeah, that's true as well, I'm not even big fan of indie titles, but it looks really good also, I hope that my man Lorn does some more tracks for the game other than the trailer music
Austin Lee
>spread their nudes You mean the professional porn that she willingly produced for public distribution? Seriously, fuck off Neogaf. This is just embarrassing.
Jeremiah Price
Stop giving him (You)s
Jack Wood
Why do people care about this guy but not anyone from Read Only Memories?
Luis Fisher
@381089287 what are you tryin to achieve here exactly?
Kayden Hill
>I love making video games >'game(s)'
lol she didn't even make one single game
Joseph Powell
You were obviously doing it to shame her. Sure, you're legally off the hook, and I wouldn't imply otherwise, but morally you're a weaselly piece of shit. Par for the course for gamergate really.
Yeah, you got thoroughly BTFO and got no responses to any of the truths I'm dropping, so just slink into the shadows and hope I'm not there at the next opportunity to revise history and win over some more gullible tools.
I'm just killing time on Sup Forums when I run across some blatant misinformation and decide to call it out. Simple, really. Not that I think you're any more likely to listen now than three years ago but it's nice to know I can still stump you with facts.
Logan Brooks
>If you don't apologize, you lose your job! >"sorry guyz!" it's that simple really