Morrowind vs Gothic 2

Which game is better?

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Gothic 2

The entire game is fun, while the only thing that's fun about Morrowind is hoarding loot in your house

>gothic
>surpassed by anything ever

wew lad

Both games are great but for different reasons. I'd lean towards Morrowind but it's because I just really like its lore.

I couldn't think of a single thing Morrowind does better that Gothic 2 actually does

I prefer Gothic 1 though

Gothic 2 is likely the better game but the amount of shit to discover about not only the map but the different game systems made Morrowind more fun, not to mention a more interesting, alien world, in a genre where exploration is so important.

landwirtschafts simulator

Someone please tell me all about Gothic 2. I've never played it but I see it compared to Morrowind all the time and Morrowind is one of my absolute GOAT games so if this comparison is valid, I probably really fucking need to play it.

Shit taste. Even morrowind's combat was better than Gothic's

It's the best RPG ever.

Why don't you play Gothic 1 first you inbred monkey fetus

>needing other people to spoonfeed you opinions since you don't have any yourself

On a second thought, neck yourself

suck my morrowang amerifat

The main difference is the combat, in Gothic 2 is skill based and your stats won't do the work for you, you will actually have to git gud.

sure buddy

Lore and setting.
Gothic's setting is so great I can't remember anything about it, except that I guess the game was set inside a giant prison or something covered by an energy shield (read: invisible wall).
Or was that Gothic 1?
I vaguely remember sailing to an island filled with orcs and maybe a dragon for some reason

>Why don't you play Gothic 1 first you inbred monkey fetus

Because 1 is shit compared to 2

youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs
Sit through this video, even if its long you will learn more about the game than from listening to retards here

You need to get some pussy user.

Morrowind is simply too easy and too easily broken.

>1 is shit combared to 2

name 20 things 2 does better

i fucked you're mom last night

Gothic 2 because it's extremely immersive and feels like an actual real world with real people in it instead of a dead empty piece of land with static soulless NPCs and you just go from one tomb to another

hol up

>gothic
>lore


>conveniently forgetting important parts of a game to somehow construct an argument

nice going bethescuck

I honestly don't remember much about Gothic 2; it's very forgettable.
I can remember so god damn much from Morrowind, but all I can remember from Gothic was that island, you should never wield a short sword with two hands, and having to kill an orc to get training or something.

I can remember way more from Gothic 1, and I played that long before Gothic 2

Baldur's Gate 2 is better than both of them so who gives a shit?

Gothic 2, obvisously.

Morrowind just felt so much more sterile, a problem that got worse with Oblivion and even worse with Skyrim. Gothic 1 and 2 have a soul.

How do the BG games work in multiplayer?
Can I still romance my waifu Jaheira? Or am I gonna get cockblocked

Is Gothic 1 worth playing?

This

I have never faced a challenge in Morrowind, only sometimes when I couldn't find an item I needed for a quest like the dwemer box. Other than that the game was easy as hell, especially after a while because you become a god and can kill everything

In Gothic 2 I got raped in the ass hard and I died millions of times, every encounter with even a rat can easily cause a death because the combat is extremely unforgiving and even as a high lvl character with a strong armor you can still get raped by a wolf if you're not careful

It's a hit or miss, some people think it's ok, some people absolutely love it, but you will definitely benefit from playing it first before playing 2.

Play for a couple of hours and if you're not into it just jump to 2

>my waifu Jaheira
My nigger. Good taste in waifus.
I just started it so I hope so, but I bought the three of them as a bundle for just a few bucks on sale so if it sucks, then whatever.

Morrowind by far, but Gothic 2 is still pretty good for its time.

>actual morons implying you would like 2 if you didn't enjoy 1

it's like you're retarded or something
why would you suddenly enjoy MORE of something you didn't previously like?

try closing your mouth whilst breathing for a change

The first act is pretty good and playing through the whole thing makes it a lot easier to understand G2 (which is fantastic through-and-through), but a good 80% of G1 is a tedious, linear slog.

>for its time
it is still leagues more rewarding than 90% of games in the genre in 15 years

because 2 has better quests, less backtracking, better controls, fixed combat, better inventory and is overall much more interesting than 1

Sometimes things get improved upon, you absolute sperglord.

do I need to play gothic 1 to play gothic 2?

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thanks lad

Both are shit.

>gathering mine reports is good content
>fighting the dragons in NOTR is good content
>the entirety of act 3 is good content
ekkk
>less backtracking
>not having to walk back and forth between the farms and the town constantly

>fixed combat
genuinely curious, what exactly was fixed in your opinion?

>more interesting
>dragons are more interesting than the sleeper

quality of life changes don't suddenly make a game you previously couldn't stomach good

if you're actually one of those people who couldn't play Gothic 1 because of "bad controls" then you're a disgusting waste of air and you should prompty end your meager existence

Who pissed in your tea, chubs?

You mean those """conversations""" npcs have where they never actually say anything? Just a few phrases repeated.

>genuinely curious, what exactly was fixed in your opinion?

In Gothic 1 enemies too tough for you were literally immortal and you had to grind to be able to deal damage to them. In Gothic 2 every enemy is killable from the start which makes it much easier for people like myself who are good at the combat and can beat the tough opponents at the beginning.

Also removed invisibility frames, and backstep actually works properly in Gothic 2

Also enemies are harder and don't just stop in one place and let you hit them until they're dead

I got Gothic 1-3 on a Steam sale. Doesn't work on W10 apparently. Anyone got an idea on a fix?

just making conversation laddy

I only have Gothic 2. Do I need to play 1 first? What about the rest of the series?

>Because 1 is shit compared to 2

>having taste this bad

2 is a disgrace.

Who touched you, user?

Morrowind has sex mods

system pack for 1 and 2, DX11 for just 2 but not for 1. Don't even play 3.

name one thing that 1 does better than 2 besides main story and atmosphere

>hoarding loot in your house
Except all the house options are shit and there aren't any good ones provided by mods either.

>enemies are too tough

>good at the combat
>makes it easier for people like me

??

both games are great in their own right and y'all are fucking gay fags with your black and white thinking

shame on your families for bringing such filth into this world

shame

>name one thing that 1 does better than 2 besides main story and atmosphere

Setting. But setting and atmosphere are the main reasons to play either game. Gothic 2 makes minor mechanical improvements while completely fucking the setting.

What are you even saying?????

By too tough I meant what the developers decided to be too tough for you. I could easily beat the enemy but I couldn't because I would deal 0 dmg to him every hit because the game decided it wasn't the right time yet to fight him and I had to come back later, even though I would have 0 problem destroying his ass.

This cancerous shit is gone in 2 and thats why 2 is better than 1

Except 2 has the exact same issue with the dragons, which are nigh immortal if you don't have black ore, backup, minions or are ridiculously overpowered

>drink 35 sujamma
>so drunk you become the most powerful being in the universe capable of destroying gods in one blow
that's neat but it doesn't exactly make for a good RPG game you know

Dragons are the only exceptions and it's acceptable because it makes sense, but it doesn't make sense why I wouldn't be able to kill a guy in an arena when I hit him 100 times and I didn't get hit once and I did 0 dmg to him

>RPG game

>1 is shit compared to 2

How about you go outside to the nearest McD and grab a big fat juicy McFuckingKillYourself? You've earned it!

oooooh look at mr super serious man over here with his big boy dictionary wording stuff

You have to be 18 to post here.

>it's okay if dragons do it but not orcs or hoomans

lol stop embarrassing yourself you damn racist

on a serious note, someone made an entire playthrough using only fists so either you're a fucking retard or just pretending

lol being a grownup is the gayest shit ever i bet you wear your pants up to your belly button and do taxes and other gay shit haha

>>it's okay if dragons do it but not orcs or hoomans
How many dragons are there? 4 ? And they're giant beasts so it makes sense that you need extra power to defeat them

It doesn't make sense with humans.

>on a serious note, someone made an entire playthrough using only fists

Then he didn't even do the arena fights obviously

morrowind is one of my favorite games of all time but i never played gothic 2

you would dig it, it's on the same level yet different

Bump.

You don't have to, but you will benefit a lot from it

What does this even mean? I don't benefit from playing video games at all.

Why do you keep linking that video? It's not even that good.

Even shit like this tells you more about the true Gothic experience:
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You will know what the people in 2 are talking about when they refer to things that happen in the first game, and also 1 is much easier while 2 is hard as fuck so playing 1 first will make you have an easier time with 2 because you will already know the basics, if you play 2 first expect to get raped

>but it doesn't exactly make for a good RPG game you know
It does, eat my shit

This is the most disengenuous line I hear about this game. It doesn't fee alive at all. I don't know how you're all so taken by the extremely basic schedules.

I just don't see how you're immersed by this game-the obvious no go zones in the beginning, the dull design, the limited dialogue options. And on a technical level the game isn't pretty or easy to control. I don't think it's bad but it's not even fucking close to morrowind.

compare this
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to dead and static Morrowind

>that first town
>so many houses
>so many people

Meanwhile in recent Bethesda games a town consists of 5 buildings and a wall.

To be fair, Gothic 2 had only one town. And we all know what happened with Gothic 3.

PB was forced by the publisher to release the game 1.5 year before the actual planned release date. Imagine if they had those one and a half year, imagine what a game Gothic 3 could have been.

I heard it's reasonably playable with all the fan fixes. Is it?

I've been playing a great deal of "old" games lately, i couldn't get into morrowind 5 years ago because Skyrim's gameplay felt better, now i'm ready to give Morrowind and Gothic1&2 a try, which mods should i use, i don't want to change the original experience just enhance visuals.

Morrowwind is garbo, there are no waypoints or anything

it's playable meaning the glitches and terrible performance is gone, but it's still a shit game

kys

If it were 2006 I would have agreed with you, but Piranha Bytes have released nothing but trash since and Gothic 3 has fundamental design flaws that wouldn't have been solved with more time alone.

Don't use any mods. Use the FPS optimizer to get higher resolutions, but that's it.

That might be true, but the story/writing/quest design was likely not going to be better even if they had that extra 1,5 years. By their own admission the tragically shit interaction even with main characters was completely intentional.

Now on the other hand there is one thing they blamed on the deadlines, they said they didn't have time to make female characters.

Whatever that's supposed to mean. It's among the weirdest shit I've ever heard coming from a developer.

name over 9000 things 1 does better

This is actually pretty cool looking. How long is Gothic 1? I just started it. It doesn't look nearly this impressive so far.

What are you currently on

20~25 hours usually. For me it was more like 60 hours, but I tend to play games extremely slow.

The very fucking beginning. First camp.
I always seem to be slower than everyone else too.

All the Gothic and Risen games are such by the numbers jobber RPGs. There's something thoroughly German about them. I saw a video of them demoing their upcoming masterpiece and it was a bunch of very excited krauts beating a rat with a stick in a game with animations that looked like straight from 1999.

Arx Fatalis is better.

>The very fucking beginning. First camp.

then play more. I would say that if you're still not into it by the time you join a camp then just skip to 2

now I never completed gothic 2 but I played the shit outta gothic 1 and morrowind. bud, you're fucking kidding yourself if you think morrowind's combat was better. how about you fucking actually get good and stop being a shitter

Will do, thanks m8.

>get good
>shitter
You're trying too hard to fit in here.

>it's an Indiana Jones episode