Congrats Blizzard...

Congrats Blizzard, you ruined one of the most basic formulas for a multiplayer character because twelvies bitched and moaned about it on your forums while ignoring the glaring flaws of other characterss

Hmm?

>mad because he has to git gud and play like a proper tank instead of just 1 shot killing everything

I've been wrecking shit with neohog OP. git fucking good.

Faggot

stop playing a shit game
>Blizzard
I think you mean Activision. Blizzard is the one that made good games

/thread
>says a mercy main

I dont care, I just wanna fap to Roadhog.

This. Blizzard ruined a hero that was meant to instant-kill heroes who got greedy and went out of position. He's no longer his mantra: a one-man apocalypse. He has to rely too much on his team to make him viable, all the while still being an ult battery to the enemy team. I would have preferred a nerf to his healing or HP than a nerf to his damage. A glass cannon is still better than a pile of trash

>out of position
No he is meant to bring people out of position to initiate combat.

When Genji got nerfed was the bitching this bad?

They need to just rework him completely or remove him. His whole concept is retarded. Either he is a one man killing machine in a team game or he's useless.

Shoot hook and shoot again and everyone still dies anyway. And M2 is still strong as hell

>I can't wander the map and declare everyone out of position ass I one shot them like motherfucking Oprah on free car day anymore waaaaah
Looks like you're just bitter now that other characters can punish you for being out of position. So sad.

It's both really.

While every other tank has some form of shield Roadhog creates a safe space around him for fear of being hooked

Previously anyone 250hp and under had to beware of their placement and Roadhogs.

Now since they've nerfed both hook and scattergun his reliability as both a tank and key target eliminator has dropped significantly

Twelvie hanzo mains got hooked in QP because decent Roadhogs clean up in that game mode. Nobody plays healer or tank in QP, and Blizzard is balancing the game around their most casual game mode

Not really but Genji users usually are better players. Roadhogs are basically players that like easy kills and do well with minimum effort.

Genji is still the second best dps in the game and wasn't nerfed nearly as hard.

???

Just shoot twice.
Its fast as fuck now.

Yeah apparently after that nerf he was unplayable trash and would definitely never be seen in pro games again.

:^)

>Just shoot again after they have already used their escape or shield

He still plays fine. I see hogs wrecking shit in every game.

You are full of shit bro, you have to play QP to remember whats that

>I have to deal with enemies putting up a fight now waaaaaaaaaah

The reason hook combo was shit was it had the power of Widow with an easy to land projectile.
This meant any experienced hog could snipe an entire team with minimal effort or skill.

Hog has been improved for everyone who isn't a shitter. Being able to instagib everyone doesn't help when you're shit-useless with your hook on cooldown. He can still hook people into the fray and get them raped, and is more threatening with it on cooldown.

He's only ruined for trash players looking for an easy ego trip.

did you just say that blizzard is nerfing/buffing based on qp?

>What do you mean I can get outplayed now? This is an outrage!

Just play Symmetra, easy team wipe and more useful to the team than Hog

>wahh I cant oneshot most of the characters anymore
>wahh I cant pull in people from 100 ft away and instantly kill them

Who knew mashing e was skill intensive counterplay?

>250hp and under

You know he could kill Zarya's with his hook combo, right?

They've been doing it since the game launched user

>Roadhog's hook is unfair!!!!!
>Hanzo's broken "shoot scatter arrow at feet for a guaranteed instakill most of the time and an RNG instakill all the other times" is perfectly fair and balanced

Is it weird if I find roadhog more fun like this? He's still an effective tank.
His shotgun is practically automatic now, it's awesome. The nerf isn't too bad either, I can still hook kill a Sym just fine.

Patience. Hes next.

No, because all the trashcan shitters that would normally complain literally couldn't notice a difference because the nerf only affected actually good players.

Hanzo is a sniper, it is his job to one shot people

He could after his first hook change. Then they added the LoS check and increased the distance he pulled you.

And he should only be one shotting through a headshot, which he already has the most generous hitboxes to do in the game nonetheless. He should not be able to one-shot nearly everyone by aiming at their feet.

>the buttblasted state of roadhog mains

Based Blizz

No one thinks that, Blizzard even went on record and said it's now how they intended people to use it. They still haven't done anything about it though because Hanzo is a trash design from the get go. A character that either one shots you at various ranges or nothing.

People complaining about Roadhog just shows how a vast majority of the playerbase is trash.

It's not surprising because of how normie centric it is, but it's the same logic as people complaining about Slark in Dota.

MAD

CUZ

BAD.

My point is that people are focusing too much on things which could be considered slightly OP (like Roadhog's hook) over things which are just outright broken (like Hanzo's scatterarrow and general moveset).

>waaah now i have to play like a part of a team! fuck this team-based game!

roadhog is dogshit now, its fucking ridiculous when you have dvas running around with whats effectively 100% DM uptime denying everything you do

why are mercy mains always the salty faggot about roadhog

Hanzo is the new Roadhog
Scatter Arrow is the new Hook

Nice Blizzard, classic rollercoaster balance

Getting one shot as any 200 hp class cause some guy pressed shift wasn't fun

>People are actually complaining that a tank can't 1-shot most of the enemy team at range without a care in the word.
Overwatch players are actually this retarded.

Hook goes through DM, use it.

But this was my biggest issue with Roadhog's nerf, his nerfed burst damage basically removed him as one of D.Va's only counters because of how fucking retarded Defense Matrix is. Now you basically need Zarya on your team at all times if that pile of shit is present on the enemy team.

Mercy Mains are salty faggots to everyone. The list is usually:

Mercy
Roadhod
Other Supports
Everyone else

Mercy players are the most entitled cunts in the entire game.

>a tank
>without a care in the word
Its like you have never played the character

>HE'S ACTUALLY REALLY HARD GUYS
t. salty Roadhog mains.

Cause he does the thing most dps struggle to do and that is kill the mercy, he can one shot her and if she tries to fly away hook her

Blizzard lets him keep it cause he is already garbage in everything else and imo is the only luck based character in the game

Roadhog isn't a tank. He's more like a target.

tfw slark spammer since the sniper/troll patch and somehow gay fish boy gained popularity and got nerfed
thanks for listening to reddit icefrog

>hard
>hes actually squishy
>gets beat up by every meta character when his hook is down

>misplay
>get punished
>WOOOOOOOOOOOWWW NOTHING I COULD DO

>Tank
Roadhog is not a tank, he cannot protect his team in any way.

His weapon does not keep enemies away at a distance reliably, his hook is used to combo enemies and his healing is self healing. No teamwide protection from anything.

Is there a hero in this game that doesn't have an annoying as fuck "fanbase" or whatever you want to call it? I guess tracer mains because she's never been touched.

Widow can unironically do this too.

Why doesn't she get nerfed?

By the way I hope you guys enjoy there being literally nothing to control Genjis and Tracers now.

im not talking about hooking dva i mean hooking fucking anyone on dvas team and she just taps dm and negates everything

shes a bullshit fucking character in any decent player's hands who knows how to support their team and isn't running around like a bruiser retard 24/7

Since Blizzard put him in the tank category, he is a tank. Unless you purchase Blizzard from Activision, there is nothing you can do about this.

Literally uninstalled the game 10 mins ago, not because of this, but its pure cancer and and so are the people who play it.

>Roadhog could not protect his team

Roadhog was probably the best anti-flanker character in the game, something that McCree was supposed to excel in. Hooking and killing flankers like Tracer and Gengu who are trying to kill your Healers is protecting your team.

>hook is guaranteed and can't be dodged
Thats a new one

To be honest Symettra is more defense than support and Reaper is a much better defense hero than offense.

>people think its okay to nerf a character to the point of being unusable.

The fat faggot cant even defend himself.
His damage is so abysmally low that even supports can eat him alive. At least when you play every other character in the game you can fight back when caught alone, or escape.
As roadhog, fuck you. Even if you land every shot, you will still be out damaged by everything.
he needed a nerf, not a brutal buttfucking.
God fucking forbid they lower his damage by a few points. no they had to make his hook slow as fuck, and then knock a third of his damage off, then pretend that the faster shooting speed makes up for it despite the fact that spread and falloff means you are literally always doing chip damage.
Roadhogs contribute nothing to the game anymore. His job is to sit there and shoot at shields. Because if he hooks someone its only going to get himself killed.

>Why doesn't she get nerfed?

She did

>Widow can sit around doing whatever with barely any risk and 1-shot whoever, then go build ult for whatever damage she took randomly sitting out in the open to pick off whoever, then 1-shot anyone who comes to try and counter her regardless of skill level because she can click in the general direction of people to kill them
Roadhog mains, everyone.

still laughing my ass off at the idea of blizzard running any competitive game ever.

I don't mind the changes to Roadhog. At least you don't live by the hook, die by the hook anymore.

Tracer, Zen, Zarya

Look man, I get it, you can't aim for shit and you can't figure out this thing called mitigation by way of cover.
That doesn't mean he's bad, I'm sorry, but you'll just have to get good now.

>playing fucking overwatch in the first place

And if my opinion matters at all, they should've just made the hook slower so its harder to land and you have to direct you shots based on the enemy movement instead.

Former Roadhog main here. It's fucking hilarious watching Roadhog crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let him land those hooks.

>you can still one shot 200hp heroes if you aim it right
whats the problem?

They should really revert the cool down nerf back to 6s though.

Blizzard can call it that, but the better players/ranks understand the roles are deeper than what category heroes are in.

Stay bronze shitlord

The only thing he can still do is rng 180 1 shot tracers

The problem is Roadhog mains are terrible players in a game full of already terrible players.

>Blizard being shit at balance
I don't even fucking play Overwatch but anyone who's surprised at whatever happened here is a newfag

>a proper tank

Roadhog was never a "tank" as he provided exactly zero damage mitigation for the rest of his team. He was a DPS who made up for his lack of mobility with a higher health pool. His heal is a 3-second self stun.

People bitched because he could "one shot them" (if he landed a 3x nerfed hook.) Yet I don't hear people bitching anywhere near as much about widow or hanzo who can do just as much damage from across the map.

>all these butthurt delusional roadshit fanboy faggots anally annihilated because they no longer can brainlessly land a pitifully easy skillshot and then left click to get a kill with no counterplay

>Best anti flanker

DVAs defence matrix and mobility shits on roadhog in terms of protecting your healers.

This literally doesn't change anything in higher elos. Smart teams focus hogs hooks anyway. And 5 shots has made shutting down dva even easier.

Seemed like it's a flawed kit from the start where you you only have a monster or a burden from it. I doubt the Paladongs or Blunderborn hook guy are as slanted.

>This literally doesn't change anything in higher elos.

You're right. Dva, Winston, and Reinhardt are played more and most of the roadhog mains (i'm looking at you, harbleu) switched to zarya a long time ago because of the added utility (shields, grab.)

>every time someone defends hog someone else calls them a Roadhog main

I reached Masters with Pharah and McCree, I don't even think I'm that good at the game. Roadhog nerfs were caused by fucking scrubs.

Do you understand the failure in logic by saying that someone who doesn't play Roadhog understands his strengths and weaknesses better than someone who does?

A good Widow player is infinitely more terrifying than a good Hog player.

Hog's problem is that there's plenty of things that block the hook in the game now, he's a huge target with no mobility, his ult is rarely game changing (can actually be a detriment because he can't heal or throw a hook while it's active), if he misses the hook there's plenty of heroes who shit all over him.

I don't even think Hog is really that much worse off after these changes, but you seem like a salty as fuck DPS player.

Starcraft, and its still one one the best to this day.
Even Warcraft 3's was pretty good.

It was pretty much fucking Casual ass faggot Dota that ruined everything for everyone.

>LOL STREET PIGS CANT AIM

why is that always the go to from you faggots?

You niggas clearly cant dodge a fucking hook and do not know how to bait one.

I know you fags have a vendetta, but are you actually going to play hog in his current state? Are you gonna bother hopping off genji and hanzo to give the nu-hog a go? Do you actually think he is viable in any set up?
If not than his balance is clearly fucked beyond repair. Its not about muh dank skills.

I guess he will see plenty of use by people who want to throw.

>Yet I don't hear people bitching anywhere near as much about widow or hanzo who can do just as much damage from across the map.

The difference is you needed to fuckin aim as those two

dva winston is so good atm. but I do run a hog if they have a dva, basically a 5v6

I'm honestly more upset about the genji/dva skins being added to old lootboxes.
I had to suffer through 10 games of that shitty moba for that dva skin.

>you don't need to aim with his hook

Are you... retarded?

>A good Widow
There is no such thing as this. For anyone who plays her regularly, they are either going off or they aren't. That's how a ranked system works, you get matched with people that are just as "good" as you.

>He thinks overwatch DPS players would ever defend Widow

There's already no counterplay to good Tracer and Genji players.

These heroes are ludicrously broken, no one can keep up with them.

What sort of retard logic is this.

You do know you can still kill people with the hook, right? You just need to graze them first. I think the combo still does about 170 damage in total.

Of course, you're just going to ignore this and continue to shitpost.