How long until Sony caves in?

How long until Sony caves in?

It's a new "feature" for PS5

>Poppa works hard to get his kids the biggest Christmas ham for dinner
>other neighborhood parents ask to be able to bring their shithead kids over for Christmas to eat even though Poppa's kids aren't really friends with them (same hobbies but very different personalities)
>neighborhood parents would likely leave the house a mess and steal utensils (server capacity)
>Poppa says no
>grocer that sold the ham and neighborhood parents and kids say Poppa's a jerk
>Poppa and his kids don't give a shit and have a nice Christmas dinner to themselves

Not until Sony stops being the market leader.

The problem is that cross platform benefits everyone but sony, since they are the biggest platform.

>inferior platforms trying to leech off establish platform's playerbase
lol never

xbone is cancer and has nothing and no one plays their games, like not even 60k entire first year sales for major xbone exclusive shown on e3 center stage

nintendo wants to leech off playerbase because nobody is going to pay monthly fees for fucking cell phone required online scheme

PSN doesn't need other platforms,they need PSN. PSN has 60+ million ps4 sales, literally no other console has done this

When Call of Duty got crossplay. Next year.

All platforms should embrace crossplatform MP, yes, but not making everyone sign up for Xboxlive

>WE SHOULD ALL JUST BE FRIENDS NO BORDERS NO MASTERS XD I GIVE UP ON COMPETING
Sony understands that this is a competitive market, which is why they're winning

Why DON'T we have more multiplayer games with crossplay?

>Paying to prop up dead third party games on the Xbone

No thanks senpai. They can bring back free online though.

>Sony
>Winning
uhm..

I really don't want to play with console shitters.

>i can't believe all men aren't forced to let trannies fuck them. the parts are all there and a feminine penis fits right into a virile man's asshole
- on the absurd state of console cross-play restrictions

Never. Especially since they are starting to refuse cross play with PC to non VR games. KOF XIV steam edition was refused Cross Play despite being console exclusive on PS4.

They have literally no reason to, though
The PS4 having it's own separate player base is one of the few things that separates them from the XBone. To get rid of that and compromising their ability to move copies of games like Fifa and Madden would be a bad move, especially when they have the market dominance they do now, and if the situation was reversed I would almost guarantee that Microsoft would be against it in the same way

Who actually plays console games online?

>ywn be so cucked you're happy a company is putting arbitrary restrictions on your hobby.

what did he mean by this?

Why do those graphs look like used condoms?

The console fps player

>arbitrary

But RL is ALREADY a crossplay title between PS4 and PC version

>food analogies

Every time

uhmm sweaty all restrictions are arbitrary

Yes, I'm glad that companies are still competitive in an industry which had its greatest achievements come from competition.

>sweaty

When it starts losing money or they realize how nuch they screwed up the vita.

Does Sony have any presence in the Smartphone gaming? It seems like that they're the only one of the big three without any direct gaming income from that sector.

I appreciate what Psyonix is doing here, but they should really make the cross-platform actually useful. Right now, you can only do private matches with friends. Make a fucking cross-platform lobby system already.

Online is the most popular genre on everything apart from nintendo.

>Smartphone
>PC/MMO includes korean grindfests
Do you really think the same people that spend hundreds on skinner boxes buy consoles at all?

They make the phones themselves.

Yes and no. In Japan, Fate/Grand Order is making them lots of cash, while worldwile the have none.

PS4 had crossplay in SFV and rocket league way before the switch was released.

I'm concern about that 36% chunk of mobile in that chart. Sony didn't got any piece of that fuckin big pie.

THERE IS NO REASON FOR FUCKING CROSS PLAY REEEEEEEEE

HAVING CROSS PLAY IS ACTUALLY ANTI-CONSUMER

probably because pc and ps4 don't really compete with each other.

Since when did Rocket League on PS4 stop having cross-play? It has had it since launch, right?

>all those shit normie games

>We have no players please sony give us crossplay :(

Sony will never accept xros play cause it takes out a huge factor on buying a console, peer pressure

MOOOOOOOM
CHAD'S DAD WON'T LET HIM PLAY WITH MEEEEEEE

...

Sorry, but as Sony said, they have to protect their carefully walled fanbase of children, snowflakes, and casuals.

>people still too dumb to figure out what's going on

They said no and gave an explanation that parents would gobble up with shit like "we're thinking about our consumers children". The next thing they will do is allow it and say "see, we listen to our fans!".

SINCE WHEN??

Competitors interacting with what's assumed to be """your""" playerbase and your network, crossplay is trivial, and was a thing as early as Q3A's Dreamcast port, as dedicated servers handled online play isolated from the console. Since everything's P2P these days, the only console-specific thing a game needs is the ability to go online

At the same time, the only major crossplay we'll see is console-on-console, PC-on-console crossplay would create hilarious contard balance issues

> Hear the news about Minecraft and Rocket League having cross platform play on everything but PS4
> Huh, how are they implementing this
> Details are scant
> Phil Spencer goes on Giant Bomb and explains that to play this cross play you have to create and log on to an Xbox Live account that will then let you play on Microsoft's servers regardless of your device

> Listen to 3 podcasts talking about how unreasonable Sony is being because the podcasts didn't look into how this all works
> Sony is being unreasonable
> Sony is being unreasonable for not wanting their customers to create an account with their direct competitors and giving their direct competitors a chance to advertise directly to their consumers

I have a feeling that this is the decision that kills Nintendo, because it reminds me so much of when Borders let Amazon handle their online marketplace and they died in less than 2 years from that decision.

A platform with 100 users gains more being allowed to play with 1000 users on another platform than vice versa.

There are games on the deaded platforms that are pretty much unplayable online, Sony allowing others to connect to their playerbase would be fucking stupid.

People care about having players on their games, doesn't matter where they come from and, unlike PC, ps4 players play more than just 2 games (CSGO/DOTA)
But by all means keep whining about how mean sony is by not giving you someone to play with while ps4 players don't give a fuck

>PC all alone is as big as all the consoles combined
>b-but PC is not profitable!!
TOPKEK

>Xplay is benefitial to both publishers and people that play said games
>Only sony friends are happy be in a cage built around em
Potery

The butthurt whiners that make up most of the gaming community deserve the bs PR statements they get.
Sony isn't a charity.

ergo we are back to
>When will Sony allow Xplay
when they are back to the gutter and cant afford to be Arrogant Sony so given the track historical record, PS5

why do these stupid corporations make it so hard to find people in anime fighting games

I honestly don't give a shit about actually having cross play with you, I'm only here to point out your hypocrisy and to remind you of this moment when the PS5 gets destroyed in sales because of shit like this a few years. Remember this, and remember what you said now. Screencap this thread if you must because the moment is coming.

How much of that profit is from f2p games though?

this PS4 players play more than 2 games
they play COD, BF and the current FOTM exclusive

Keep in mind that most of that revenue comes from Chinese/Korean MMOs and F2P shit

Those numbers actually show consoles growing in revenue despite the lower overall %

wow RPing, so hilarious

Not accurate, because sony already does crossplay with PC, so poppa already invited friends over for christmas dinner, just not those other neighborhood families.

This is what bothers me about all this. Sony has done crossplay for years with PC, but not MS or nin, no one batted an eyelash. Suddenly MS demands crossplay for 1 game (along with RL), with some dubious requirements (login to OUR system), and it's sony's fault for not bending over and allowing crossplay, even though they have for years. This on top of MS being completely guilty of preventing crossplay for years. Do I even need to discuss nintendo and crossplay? I don't understand why it's all of a sudden sony's fault when they're the ones that went out of their way to support it from the get go, and built their online user base to be attractive. I mean, at least if MS said they would integrate into sony PSN instead of forcing it through LIVE, then I'd see it as an olive branch, but right now it sounds nonsense. I dunno what's going on with RL, but they knew what was going on from the get go (it's been on xbox for a while now), so for some reason this feels like a stunt from them. Maybe I'm just being biased.

We're going to end you. We're going to force you out of gaming. PlayStation is a cancer and has never stopped being cancer.

I don't understand this. I can crossplay with PS4 and PC already. What's the big deal?

and most console revenue comes from COD and micro transactions like shark cards and skins aka the same shit

Well they've tried a bunch of mobile adaptations of their popular IP but they were all rancid shit even by mobile standards.

>PS4 has more players than its competitors combined
>they need to team up to have enough players in multiplayer games or else they'd be dead
>meanwhile, everyone is still getting a PS4 for all multiplatform games

I am completely indifferent since I dont play online on consoles

But I would respect sony more if they stood by their decision.

Besides, I hate Phil Spencer perpetual "us gamers amirite" PR mode and smug face

On the contrary. It's not like Switch owners are unaware of Xbox or that they will provide some benefit over the Switch. This is just a chance for people who have Switches who have friends with Xbox to play their games together. Or people with Xboxes to get Switches and play with the same people they usually do, but on the go.

That said. I see this as the beginning of a move for Microsoft to make the Switch their own answer to the Switch, by basically making it their own handheld too.

The analogy holds. Poppa invites people over himself, doesn't concede to demands from people wanting to come over without receiving an invitation first.

>that fucking stance and gestures everytime he is on stage

>Higher attach rate than the Wii or PS2
>I-it must be microtransactions

>low test sonygaggers this triggered by chad tundercock

glorious, go jerk off your animes now

>PC/MMO

Name five Microsoft-Nintendo crossplay games.

>>Higher attach rate

Do movies really count though?

>tfw nintendo and microsoft is upping their realpolitik 5d sodoku
>sony will be looking like Paris in 1871 if they continue to be outplayed

PC has even higher attach rate so gg

Minecraft
Rocket League
Jackie Cha-

Argggggghhhhhh!

Just buy a ps4

Source?

But RL already has crossplay with PS4.

Sony didn't want Minecraft crossplay because it still requires a (nongold) XBL account which is stupid. No idea why Nintendo agreed on that shit

It's a meme you dip

MS outplayed Nintendo though

Because its a non gold account?Giving players a option to play with others is better say "Nyet comrade, you must stay on your side of the red tape

no need, its a fact

>No idea why Nintendo agreed on that shit
PR

Sony has nothing to lose as it has the largest playerbases this generation. It has enough people playing rocket league on PS4 alone that xbox coming together with PC and switch doesn't mean anything.

Also PC can play with PS4 anyway so ???
same shit with minecraft. That one probably stings kids who play minecraft a little cause if their xbone friends want to play they'll have to play on PC, but otherwise I can't imagine anyone gives too much of a fuck.

People are overblowing crossplay. It's happened for dozens of games in the past and it almost always goes unnoticed. Does that mean it's not a good thing? No, of course it's a good thing. But everyone complaining sony has something to lose by not doing cross-plat with their competitors who fucked up this generation so badly that to have stable playercounts in some of the most popular games that they have to reach out to their other competitors to try and make nice? That's retarded. No better than those tards complaining about wanting free money because someone won the lottery, saying it's "not fair".

Doesn't nintendo still use friendcodes? I remember hearing that somehow someway they ended up with friendcodes again on the switch. It seems to me their online plans are a bit of a mess, so anything that can help jump start their presence their while taking pressure off their account system issues is probably a win for them.

>Xbox
>inventor of achievements (poor replayablilty excuse)
>inventor of paid online
>calling anyone else cancer
The inability to self reflect is a sign of autism.

>PS5
PS6*
Success success failure. That's the record.
PS3 was a failure, PS4 is a success. PS5 will succeed, PS6 will probably end the company for good.

Like Xbox is any better

wow you are right, sony is doomed :/

PS3 has nearly 90 Million consoles sold. It's not as much as PS1 or 2, but it's not really a "failure" after all.

Its not up to sony to fill other platform's lobbies

Sony has crossplay with PC/Steam

They have 60 million PS4 sales, why would they help direct competitors when they can just play with PC?

Statistically speaking, the dropoff from ps2 to ps3 should have been literally impossible, even with the significantly earlier release of the 360.

but then sony announced 599 and shot themselves in the foot. Then jammed a fork in their femoral. And then slit their wrists and tried to cut their own head off and fuck it. They absolutely fucking ruined themselves. If that sort of hubris is anywhere within the company in any way shape or form at this point in time, it's not unreasonable to think they'll repeat their mistake. I see xbox trying to make an early release of the next xbox and unless they fuck THAT up with massive retardation pre-launch like with the xbone, they'll probably draw back some of their original players especially if they keep up this backwards compat shit, people are gonna be a lot more willing to move over since they won't have to pay extra to play their shit.

after all
but are you gonna ignore those first 3 years where it was just a moneypit?

This.

Gamecube is what you call a "failure" because they were unable to turn around their situation

normies will switch back to xbox.

At the start the ps4 was better in every way, now it's completely reversed.