>literally runs worse than it did 10 years ago >literally looks worse than it did 10 years go >134 GB install because of all the hats, get VAC banned for using no hat mods >thousands of obscure weapons with obscure effects you have to play 10,000 hours to understand, get one-hit by the Spinaroonie Sack Slapper because you forgot to spin 360 degrees and teabag after spawning >Spinaroonie Sack Slapper only available to those who logged 100 hours in South Park MOBA within a month of its release, now going for $327 on the market >anyone who still plays is a gay ERPer who spends all their time on no kill servers, gay ERPers still seep into normal servers and half the people in a game will yell at you for RDMing >get banned from a server by an admin for picking up his Golden Wrench >fov still locked to 90 >retarded skinner box full of teenagers and furries >terrible community >f2p flooded the game with third world trash and low skilled players and still hasn't recovered >retarded loadouts collapse skill ceiling
Why does Sup Forums defend this game again?
And no I don't play overwatch. I mostly play fighting games and that game looks like shit. But if I were to play an FPS it would probably be something like quake live.
no one defends tf2. everyone agrees the game went shit when the manco update hit and it went f2p.
Colton Morales
fuck you and eat a dick literally all of your "points" are meaningless and wrong.
Matthew Anderson
nah I keep seeing tf2 threads that act like the game is some super skilled game with a great community, see it used to be a good game when I played it back in 09 but it sucks hard now
Landon Gomez
I can't defend it at all. Valve has added so much useless shit and the game is barely playable nowadays. I just want to go back to the good ol' days.
Christopher Adams
>Valve has added so much useless shit and the game is barely playable nowadays they've done that to every one of their games.
Alexander Sullivan
Beats me. I haven't played it in 9 or so years. Your fault for following the popular crowd.
Carter Bailey
Just TF2, Dota 2, and CSGO
Jack Harris
so the biggest games that actually generate a profit, yes, not the dead ones
David Sullivan
do people still play tf2? It went to shit after 2007.
Jason Clark
Still better than Overwatch and its clones
Charles Wood
>tfw still love the core gameplay >they can't even optimize it
Samuel Rivera
>literally runs worse than it did 10 years ago nope >literally looks worse than it did 10 years go yep
Dylan Phillips
>traded tf2 items and made some profits >cant do it now because of the 15 day wait period >stopped playing it after matchmaking takes too long and cant make high profits
Hudson Smith
You must be fun at parties.
Sebastian Harris
Why are you mad OP? It is still a pretty good game,now with less gay sprays and idlers.
Gavin Ross
vac banned for no hat mod what?
Im using that and im not banned
Carson Bennett
I haven't played TF2 since like 2011. Who would willingly subject themselves to the trash that is modern TF2? Besides curries, retards, and children of course.
Alexander Morales
Its bait and you fell for it
Kevin Rodriguez
I wish I could be that good at hyperbole.
Ryan Evans
>stock bottle cant break anymore
Christian Jenkins
It's a fact that the game runs worse you dumb faggot
Alexander Watson
what the fuck is the spinaroonie sack slapper.
Ethan Scott
what fps do you guys play? I legit dk what to do when I need my adrenaline fix
cod is for children battlefield was killed by ea overwatch is for women tf2 is dead ???
Lincoln Edwards
TF2 and Battlefield 2/2142 are still alive so play that
Brody Moore
>why does Sup Forums still defend this game again?
Because it's fun desu
Jason Torres
>nah I keep seeing tf2 threads that act like the game is some super skilled game with a great community Yeah, maybe a year ago when Overwatch came out. Now that TF2 is mainstream again people are hating it more, putting it back in the dark.
Ian James
No Not anymore
Jaxon Turner
That was strike one, but didn't do too much damage.
Strike two was the end of the line update where they proved they will never had new content consistently again even when 95% of it was community made
The third and final strike was Meet Your Meet, which not only proved they had no idea what the fuck they were doing by making the game worse in every way, but they did so right when overwatch was ramping up, so they fucked themselves into oblivion, and didn't end up fixing most of the problems until a year later. And the supposed "new weapons and content" from that update STILL isn't in the game.
TF2 is long fucking dead. And its depressing. But what can you do, Overwatch is slowly becoming 2009 era TF2 with the server browser system and constant content and update.
Just wonder when Blizzard will fuck it all up.
Benjamin Clark
>not anymore
Did Overwatch get better? Because its base mechanics are terrible.
Kayden Carter
>>thousands of obscure weapons with obscure effects you have to play 10,000 hours to understand, get one-hit by the Spinaroonie Sack Slapper because you forgot to spin 360 degrees and teabag after spawning Nigga what? If you have trouble understanding ANY of the weapons in this game then you probably have a pick axe lodged in your head. >>Spinaroonie Sack Slapper only available to those who logged 100 hours in South Park MOBA within a month of its release, now going for $327 on the market No weapons have this on them other than reskins. And most are stock reskins. >>anyone who still plays is a gay ERPer who spends all their time on no kill servers, gay ERPers still seep into normal servers and half the people in a game will yell at you for RDMing Then don't play on ERP servers. I've never had a issue with this fags because they've never showed up in my games. >>get banned from a server by an admin for picking up his Golden Wrench Then you're on a shit server. >>fov still locked to 90 You can change it in the options. Look harder dipshit. >>retarded skinner box full of teenagers and furries How is it a skinner box? >>terrible community >>f2p flooded the game with third world trash and low skilled players and still hasn't recovered Meme argument. >>retarded loadouts collapse skill ceiling How?
Joshua Hughes
after a year balance has gotten a lot better, game has TF2's old server browser system instead of just logging into quickplay or comp (which is how TF2 is now with valve servers gone and only the 98 furry servers still up), and the game is getting fuckton of content, shit is almost bi-monthly at this point.
Game still has its tickrate and other shit, but its slowly growing and learning from TF2's highpoints and tending to those niches.
Caleb Thomas
>Overwatch is slowly becoming 2009 era TF2 Call me back when the maps aren't shit, there isn't a hard counter system, an option to play games with no ultimates and characters that aren't steaming piles of Overwatch (or the more common name for it, dog shit.)
Aiden Peterson
Valve servers aren't gone, dumbass.
Jackson Carter
g8 b8 8/8
Charles Adams
Since Overwatch came out TF2 has still the same amount of players
Levi Reyes
If you mean Valve servers that can be played from the browser, yes they are. The server BROWSER is still there though, but it's 100% community servers. But it's a mixed fucking bag ever since the majority were killed off by MyM.
Mason Young
Just don't use the server browser, the matchmaking is much improved. I would like to have the server browser come back too, you know.
Cooper Barnes
More weapons is the last thing TF2 needs, I'm sick of this >10% less damage >25% faster firing speed >30% fire vulnerability bullshit that doesn't enrich the gameplay or change anything about how a class plays, it just makes the game more of a clusterfuck. Valve should have stopped adding new weapons a long time ago.
Brandon Rivera
It has a massively inflated player count. Most of the servers that aren't 24 hour insta-respawn servers or trading servers are just straight up dead.
Christopher James
Casual and competitive Valve servers is where most of the players go,it is way less inflated now than when there were idle servers everywhere.
Levi Price
all of this is completely true, but it's still kinda fun
Elijah Lopez
>24 hour insta-respawn servers What's wrong with 24 hour or insta-respawn servers?
Jackson Adams
>>retarded loadouts collapse skill ceiling
Should be rephrase as:
>retarded loadouts collapse certain weapons overtime
Remember old LnL? Remember demo faggots with shields and LnL? Now ask yourself, when was the last time you've seen LnL on anyone unironically or without buyers remorse?
Hunter Johnson
Just buy the console version of the orange box if you really want to go back.
Mason Bennett
>Remember old LnL? To be fair you can still use it to shit all over engies and faster pills are harder to dodge. The old LnL was OP because it had increased damage vs EVERYONE ontop of pills that are harder to dodge.
Ian Reyes
Yesterday. The Loch and Load is very good for hitting direct hits on people due to its higher projectile speed and low arc
Justin Stewart
I would in a heartbeat if people were still playing it.
Brody Roberts
This,i'm glad that after all these years Valve is forced to rebalance items instead of adding them,also the Pyro overhaul should have come way sooner.
Adrian Collins
AND LET'S NOT FORGET >Turned Halloween events "MAKES SOME MAPS AND HATS FOR US THANKS" >No more new bosses >Instead of hunting for free cosmetics they just hand you a crate >No reason to even annually log on to the game anymore just for Halloween
Jaxon King
>focusing on the Pyro update instead of the Halloween and Christmas events
Nothing wrong with that
Dylan Moore
Don't tell me they've been working on the Pyro update since 2014
Jordan Gonzalez
Reminder that csgo is going through the same, valve does not give a single fuck about csgo or tf2
And yes, csgo also runs worse
Evan Lee
>crowbcat makes a video about a game >shitheads come out of the woodwork to fabricate controversy around the game they don't give a shit about Why? I still play tf2 and I hate what they did to the game, but I'm invested in it. There's no way everyone in this thread still plays/used to play tf2, so why give a shit?
Luke Hall
It always triggered me that they can't bother to make a snowy version of 2fort for christmas
Noah Cox
I still think it's fun. Especially when I'm not getting iced by a spy.
Then again I only play Payload on the normal random server. Also I've never noticed ERP fags.
Brayden Hernandez
>not using the frying pan
John Moore
If you wanted to play an old but dead version of TF2, you should just play TF2 Classic.
Noah White
They don't have a lot of people working on TF2 anymore so would you blame them for giving priority to something that should have been changed many years ago?
Jose Rivera
If you played 2009 or 2010 tf2 you would see that the game is a piece of shit now
Lincoln Hall
This was the comfiest map ever, too bad community servers are dead
Nicholas Kelly
Reasons why TF2 is dead: >A feature that is easily disabled client-side >An update made balance changes I personally disagree with >Made up campfire story about friendlies and bronies
Jace Taylor
is it seriously 134GB now? i uninstalled that shit years ago
Caleb Torres
It's still the best Multiplayer game around and only about a sixth of your points are true. The balance is better than ever and it's still extremely fun after a decade of playing.
Robert Walker
No its 420 GB,i needed to buy a external hard drive to install the game.
Nathaniel Reyes
Its not, OP is a dirty lying faggot
Jack Sanchez
this
Lucas Walker
The game was shit when it first came out and it's only slightly more shit now. Only casuals defend this trash, or ever defended this trash.
Ethan Jones
Man I always come in these threads and see people talk about how it went to shit before 2010 and shit, and I only started playing like 2014.
Eli Cox
Its like 9 or 12gb iirc
Nolan Reyes
Ignore them and have fun, then. That's all that matters. Nostalgia fags can go away.
Owen Jenkins
Unreal tournament alpha or quake champions
Evan Williams
What is up with all those TF2 threads lately? Even if it's an active game I am surprised to see Sup Forums talks about it so much
Jeremiah Peterson
I'm well aware the game is a shell of its former self user, but if you've stopped playing all together why give a shit?
Joseph Thomas
Big update is coming. Any day now.
Aaaaany day now.
Andrew Russell
that makes more sense, though knowing modern valve i wouldn't have been surprised if they had added 120GB of cosmetic shit.
Jordan Cruz
Payne made a youtube video so its a topic of discussion again
Adrian Kelly
>Game with 45,000-60,000 average players 24/7 is dead >A game is shit if it doesn't get constant content updates
???
Aaron Ross
Don't believe them,the game was even more unbalanced
Because a faggot made a video displaying how 2007 TF2 looks "better" than current TF2,also its getting a major update soon
Ryan Fisher
>45k players MMOs have shut down at twice that.
Logan Sanchez
Maybe because they're MMOs and require very large amounts of people to play.
Oliver Flores
MMO need huge playerbases,a 12v12/6v6 game doesn't.
You're right, meanwhile tf2 will still be "alive" in your mind as long as it has enough people to fill up a room, correct?
Jeremiah Walker
TF2 is more alive than basically every game in existence except like 10 newer meme games that aren't a decade old.
Julian Ross
>tfw my favorite server got killed after the halloween update that brought magical shit >tfw mostly playing tf2 for the gamemodes >tfw my favorite saxton hale server is now dead >tfw plenty of servers i used to enjoy are long gone
Jack Richardson
>playing this mess when Overwatch exists
why? are you so poor?
Hudson Kelly
>Needing a drip-feed of updates to keep you playing
I don't know, maybe the game is just fun and deep enough by itself to warrant you playing it?
Gavin Garcia
Read
Hunter Gray
It's ~20gb, I just had to uninstall it to make room.
Nolan Butler
>TF2 is more alive than basically every game in existence Do you even realize how stupid you sound right now, talking about a game with 45k players like this?
Mason Long
This may not bring back the graphics or small installation, but it's still a neat little tool to find "classic" servers vanilla.tf/
Ethan Lewis
What games have more players than TF2 on Steam?
Aiden Young
Why valve had to kill servers, what were wrong with them?(Aside from the autistic furry ones)
Eli Cruz
>on steam People still use that trash? Wow.
Aiden Bell
I don't think you realize how small most game communities are, especially after a decade. 45,000-60,000 is astounding.
DotA, CSGO, PUBG
Henry Cox
They didn't kill anything,they just made quickplay not shit.
Gabriel Cooper
Dota 2 Counter Strike Global Offensive PLAYER UNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS Payday 2 H1Z1 King of the hill GTA 5. It's still better than origin and has more games than Blizzard's thing.