Team Fortress 2: Then and Now

Fucking WHY

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Because you touch yourself at night user.

Lower sysreq = more players?
Exactly why MMO always got worse graphic for its era. Also good MMO like RO and Maple have to fight with stylish 2D instead of cutting-edge 3D.

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Indeed why? Why do you care? I thought ALL you faggots stopped playing this?

You just made me give that parroting faggot a view, fuck you.

Shame.

TF2 on the 360 was the shit. Nearly perfect
except no Kb&M and some hackers.

wowwww

i literally wouldve spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on steam to play this game

but then i saw that in 2007 something was shiner than it is now

DROPPED

>TF2
>lower requirements
Nice meme. Stop parroting. Game run like shit comparing to even 2013 state.

REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS POSSIBLE?

It's just another thing to add on to the pile of issues with modern TF2, and all the downgrades are a product of cosmetic bloat which highlights the key problem of TF2.

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if that were the key problem then why are these threads always about thinks being shiner in 2007 and not actually about cosmetic bloat

Sup Forums is fuckn stupid

>Sup Forums is fuckn stupid
Yeah and you exemplify that. The graphical changes were made so that the game could still run itself with all the cosmetics added.
And even then modern TF2 runs like hot garbage compared to old TF2.

Why would they do this?

Who the fuck are you kidding. You know you don't have that kind of money.
>And you never will

They took it out because idiots thought it did more damage or more crits broken

>video shows lost detail, removed animations and models
>still claims it's about shiner graphics
Man, Sup Forums sure is retarded. Literally worse than Sup Forums.

Any toaster could run TF2 in 2007

>Revolver
>doesn't revolve

WEW All these changes sure are gamebreaking I'm really going to miss that small insignificant paint texture on that 1 wall nobody gives 2 fucks about. FUCK VALVE REEEEEEE

COUPON BUG DOT COM

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Are you retarded? Did you not play game at all? Game evolved into pile of shit over the years. Everyone is well aware of this.
This video shows graphical differences as well.

The only thing that actually makes me sad is the bottle no longer breaking.

I mean, I kind of get it, because it was the only weapon that did that and it made you think that a broken bottle did more damage or something, but it was neat. It was one of the first things that made me feel like Team Fortress 2 was a different game than everyone else was trying to be.

>are you retarded
I actually bought the game and enjoyed it before the f2p. While you played for free and cried about changes to resolution and lower spec. don't ever talk to me again. kek

It's such a stupid reason though. Play the game long enough and you'll realize it doesn't do any more damage, or just look it up on the wiki if you're not sure. It doesn't affect gameplay at all if some idiots think it does more damage that way. I really wish Valve would tell their braindead playtesters to fuck off.

>I actually bought the game and enjoyed it before the f2p
Yeah, early June 2011 for sure.
> cried about changes to resolution and lower spec.
Literally what?

how dare you speak to me.

Is it you Randy? You want to unleash your fury over anonymous imageboard?

meant to

Fags are still milking this topic?

What a shit board.

As opposed to what? /pol threads?

(badass)

>Go into the comments
>People try to defend this

Does it affect gameplay? No? Then there's no reason to bitch about it, it's graphics in an already simplistic-looking game.

don't you have LOL, brap, and clearly-not-thinly-veiled Sup Forums threads to shitpost to?

>incompetency is okay when valve does it

>Does it affect gameplay? No?
Gameplay was bastardized over the years.
>it's graphics in an already simplistic-looking game.
>it's alright for 2007 game that used to run on 2007 toasters with unique artstyle to downgrade the graphics even worse and deteriorate the art style, even though it runs like shit right now and manages to look worse than on launch

People would rather bitch about non issues instead of cancerous shit like cosmetics (probably because their favorite game has a similar skinner box). Hats are the real reason for TF2's fall from grace and eventually made Valve stop giving a shit anymore. You cannot defend this.

>People would rather bitch about non issues instead of cancerous shit like cosmetics
>instead of cancerous shit like cosmetics
People did that for years, retard, and it helped nothing. They'll sooner add those details than remove cosmetics.

>know fags who whine about TF2 hats ruining everything
>they play overwatch
>a game with completely retarded cosmetics in it

The difference is there's no cosmetics economy in Overwatch.

Clearly too many Americans play this game which caused these changes. Also
>playing tf2 past 2011

>bitching about graphics on a game from 10 years ago

>economy
>giving a shit about jews
kek

>defending downgrading 10 years old game

it doesn't affect gameplay at all. woaah the lighting is different and some animations are changed. not a big deal.

ugh I hate it when people have their own opinions outside of what a youtube e-celeb postures

As noted earlier, the game was fucked up as well over the years.

no shit? now no one cares anymore, they've bent over and taken it. instead they're bitching about the game losing minor details since they'd be hypocrites to bitch about hats considering they probably enjoy some other game with cosmetic shit (see ).
There is no point to any of this bitching, if quick play isn't coming back, then neither are these details. Kind of amusing how people live to complain about dead games they've supposedly moved on from though

>Kind of amusing how people live to complain about dead games they've supposedly moved on from though
Something to do with the fact that it used to be great, to some it was the best multiplayer experience, wish to play it every now and then and now it's ruined?

how is it ruined? it's the same gameplay as before, but more weapons.

All the fucking hats with faggy paint jobs and particle effects take up memory, you know. Sacrifices had to be made.

poor and irish players tend to be quite jealous of their richer cousins.

Unforgivable.

>it's the same gameplay as before
>but more weapons.
More weapons are the problem. The game is bloated with weaponry to the point were classes lost it's value, such as Demoman being exclusively a melee class.

>dying to demoknights
kek

It's okay user, just accept you're garbage.

Ad hominem.

demoknights are just for messing around. how is that a problem?

Okay what's worse:
The fags that shill CrowbCat constantly
or
The people who defend Valve

Honestly, I'm not sure at this point. Can you guys help me decide? Not sure which shit is smellier.

I'm glad this was removed actually. Not only because of the possibility of retards thinking the broken bottle is stronger, but also because I always hated seeing Demo drinking out of a broken bottle for his taunt and it still making the chugging noise. It's even worse when his taunt with the all-class weapons is him trying to drink out of something like a staff or a piece of ham.

To used to seeing this over their heads. So it's bad.

Wow, good thing I quit this shitty game back in 2010.

I don't even know who CrowbCat is.

The people who complain about people arguing over things rather than ignoring both.

CrowbCat is basically low tier effort videos and only does low-hanging fruit. Reddit tier humor at this point.

Last I checked besides the lack of idle servers and economy, no item drops on overwatch change the gameplay.

Overwatch is cancer like any other blizzard game but not because of that.

Isn't this what you fags complain about when games aren't optimized?

Most of this is quite literally optimization to make it run better on toasters. Yes, it's a bit weird they don't just make these changes on lower graphic options but since people are clueless idiots I'm willing to bet Valve knew most kept it on high regardless of how shit the game ran. Therefore they just blanket optimized everything.

Overwatch had cosmetics from the get-go, so it's not a fair comparison.

no, you see most people who whine about hats do so because its breaking MUH IMMERSION.

Yet they don't blink an eye at ridiculous shit in overwatch. It's entirely just post-hoc rationalizations.

yeah all hail lord gaben downgrades are not a problem for me bring on the hats

>it's another Sup Forums pretends they know what they're talking about while giving crowbait more views thread

I wish you went to reddit instead

>remove features from the game
>call it "optimization"

Why don't you get "culturally enriched" in a dark alley, Sven?

Can this game just die already so salty tf2 kids stop swarming every other hero shooter comment section

>Most of this is quite literally optimization to make it run better on toasters.
This a 2007 game that used to run on 2007 toasters. Even the 2013 version used to run very well on 2007 laptop. Now it runs way worse and looks worse as well.

Well yeah most people are retarded, blizzard players are even more so.

only real crime was removing mat_picmip -10

When will Valve make a fucking game, are they just gonna sit there and deepthroat dota 2 until times end?

Actually they made these changes to lighting and effects on weapons so they could push skins on every weapon and sell them to CS kiddies.
Fucking hell, if you want to talk optimization they should get rid of their janked to shit hat system.

That would require the video to explain to redditers what a 'console' is. They'd call it hacks.

Valve is just Steam and cosmetics company. If you didn't hear the news, pretty much everyone who worked on HL or Portal leaves the company. Even HL writers left already.

To be fair, those same people tried to make HL3 and gave up doing so. It's why they left.

Yeah don't worry guys, they had the microtransactions in the beginning so it's okay!

Maybe something to do with the fact that HL game wouldn't be a good fit for Steam Market and cosmetics. At one point Gabe or someone from Valve said that they would bring all the things they "learned" from their more recent games. So yeah, cosmetics market.

stop for a second and use some critical thinking and objectivity. Was this ALL Valves fault? No Valve released a few cosmetics then the tf2 community started creating their own cosmetics. If you want to blame anyone blame the community it destroyed your precious game.

Here is what I don't understand about this.

TF2 in 2007 looked way better. It's undeniable due to this video he shows us.

PCs in 2007 were really bad. I'm talking celerons and pentium 3s and 4s. Some people had onboard video cards with barely 64 or 128mb of onboard video available.

Now if you look at TF2 today in 2017, it does look worse visually and people have started to speak out now that it actually runs worse than back then.

Now lets think. What would be the poorfag toaster PC of 2017? It's probably a Dual Core Intel CPU or an AMD CPU Dual core. This is a substantially more powerful CPU then say a Celeron or Pentium. The average toaster onboard video is at least 1gb or more now most of the time.

So tell me, how did the game run better 10 years ago on such anciently bad hardware compared to much more powerful toasters now?

it's the same game, the same engine...how did the system requirements increase so much?

This actually has me thinking some weird conspiracy type shit like valve makes the game run worse on purpose so people buy new hardware.

It realistically makes ZERO, absolute ZERO sense why the game runs worse on toasters today then the toasters of 10 years ago.

Really roasts those almonds.

>why people still give a shit about this?
How many threads do you need to get pay buddy?

HL3 has been scrapped, started again, and scrapped at least 4 times by now. Last comment on the topic basically stated that no one at valve wants to even make it anymore. Tried, failed, and now to burnt out to care.

I have a better question. How often are you going to spam these threads and when is a mod going to start banning you for it?

>It's probably a Dual Core Intel CPU or an AMD CPU Dual core.

Maybe thats the thing. Maybe it cant handle multiple cores?

Because people barely remember how it actually ran for them. I've had friends make this comment only for me to enlighten them how they only played because of the "lower than low" CFGs and forcing DX8.

It runs worse and looks worse because of the skins and hats.

It's not a conspiracy, it's just greed.

Can't say for sure but it does have "Use multiple cores Y/N" graphics setting nowadays.

>reddit

>spacing

>every

>line

You're telling me modern gamers are ruining games? And that they're the reason why cancerous shit like hats and skins are so prevalent? Whoa...how profound of you, user.

>HL3 has been scrapped, started again, and scrapped at least 4 times by now
>Last comment on the topic basically stated that no one at valve wants to even make it anymore. Tried, failed, and now to burnt out to care.
Seeing how Valve used to pay their employees per contribution to the game, I can see that.
Reminder that reddit spacing is a recent forced meme.

>Call out "redditors"
>They "redditpost" more to spite you

A good circle.

NO WHAT MAKES THE GAME AWFUL THESE DAYS ARE THE MASS OF SHITTY WEAPONS FILLED WITH GIMMICKS AS OPPOSED TO DECENT SIDEGRADES LIKE THIS USED TO BE.

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR