Which has worse rolls: Fate GO or Fire Emblem Heroes?

Which has worse rolls: Fate GO or Fire Emblem Heroes?

Fate. You could roll faster in heroes and you had more free rolls to start. As far as drop rate, Fate is still worse.

Heroes. Most of the gatcha is full of shitty units or units that you can't use but have a useful ability to pass on, and because of the PVP it's pay-to-win as fuck as new, better units come out.

FGO has shitty rates, but you pull for your waifu, and by the time you get it you've got enough tools to deal with literally everything in the game. And if you don't? Some of the best units in the game are all 1 and 2-star that come out of the free friend-point summons, and the rest of them are great in context aside from a few shitters.

That's right, one game has 2/3 of the cast completely useless garbage and an ongoing power-creep enforced by half the game content being versus other players, and the other one doesn't give a fuck and put some of their best units in the free pile. Guess which one has a worse gatcha.

Fate is hilariously worse

Heroes doesn't have PvP and some of the best units in the game are available at 3/4*'s

Heroes does, technically speaking, have a form of PVP. It's abstracted but it's there.

FEH offers more control in terms of what color to pick after an initial roll, and there is a 6% rate for a 5 star unit. FGO has a 1% rate for a 5 star servant.

FEH is also available in English, while FGO is available in Japanese to Chinese to Malaysian to Google Translate English

>heroes has a 6% chance to roll a 5 star
>every time you fail to get one that percentage gets higher
>certain common 3 or 4 star units are top tier, such as Nino and Reinhardt
>even if a certain roll you get isn't good, chances are it still has valuable skills you can give to other units
I have a hard time believing it gets better than this outside of it not being a gatcha at all desu.

fate by far. In heroes I generally got everything I want.


In fate I gave up rerolling after a day and still didn't get my fucking weaver. It's balanced out though because arguably some of fate's best units are 3 or 4 stars and it doesn't have nearly as many generic chaff units.

FEH has a much more generous gacha, but they ruin it with the astounding ineptitude and incompetence of the dev team at Intelligent Systems. That 6% focus means little if the kusoge fucks you with terrible IVs, as if that is ever a good idea in a mobage. Not to mention Skill Inheritance just sort of being prolapsed out to us instead of refined and implemented intelligently means a lot of the SSRs are just shit compared to getting one with good stat growth and a special weapon, then just shoving Vantage and other meme shit into it.

So basically FEH by simple math will give you more 5*, but you have to avoid the second level of RNG by getting the right color orb to even appear in the 5 set, the third tier of hoping it doesn't have abysmal IVs that ruin the characters purpose entirely, and then the fourth level of needing a character that can inherit all the OP broken skills well. Fate comparatively is just roll the garbage tier 1% chance, and if you get it, you're done. It doesn't pretend to be e-sports trash, so you can use 4* and lower as long as you play smart.

So like all mobile games, they're terrible in their own unique ways.

>Best Blue Mage
Reinhardt, who is far and away the best unit in the game a 4*
>Best Blue Lance
Azura (5*) or Ephraim (5*)
>Best Red Sword
Olivia (Free unit), Xander (Free Unit). Eirika(4*) or Ryoma (5*)
>Best Red Mage
Tharja (4*)
>Best Green Mage
Nino (3*)
>Best Green Axe
Hector (5*)

There's also the very good Free team of Camus/Cecilia/Xander/Ursula that is godlike the second you roll the 3* Odin and 3* Jagen

FEH has the double gacha system, but much higher rates than FGO. I'd go with FGO being the worse of the two.

>not Camus as best Lance
>not Katarina as best Red Mage
>not Julia as best Green Mage

Azura and Ephraim shit all over him in terms of utility. Katarina has the same offensive stats as Tharja but swapped defenses, so the two are pretty much equal.

Julia gets raped by Nino so hard she has to carry Green Tomebreaker.

Dancers are literal crutches in Arena as they sandbag your score, and while Eirika/Ephraim are the best Infantry buffers in the game right now, that is nowhere near a necessary niche for most teams, especially meme teams.
Katarina is objectively better in this Mage focused meta since you'll almost never see a ranged physical attacker in Arena that isn't BCordelia or the odd Kagero (neither are that common to begin with), so her Res suits her much better.
Julia is one of the few foolproof counters to a fully kitted Thundercock as well, whereas Nino has to either be Res buffed and have an HP seal, or to be running TA instead of the superior Fury.

>mfw REGEND, SAVIOUR OF OREANS, FURANSU

>Heroes doesn't have PvP

Arena is sort-of-PVP. I fucking hate people who use Linde and Julia, I'm going to make a Horse Meme Team because the best mages can even destroy my anti-magic units.

Horse meme team is mainly free and one of the best teams out there. Go for it my man

Yeah, I rolled a FUCKING TITANIA while trying to get Summer Tiki, I can add her to my Reinhardt/ Eliwood/ Cecelia team, I have Jeigan and Gunther ready to pass on their skills.

I have almost that exact same cav team, but with camus instead of Rein.

Both shitty gatcha games. Fate GO probably has more content at least but that is like being king of the special olympics

Nino needing those things to counter Reinhardt is a meme, as it's only necessary when Rein has +atk, death blow 3, quickened pulse moonbow and cav buffs. If he is missing even one of these things, he dies to a simple fury Nino.

>Some of the best units in the game are all 1 and 2-star that come out of the free friend-point summons

Is this just a REGEND joke or who?

There are a bunch of really good 1/2*s like Hans.

He doesn't need Cav buffs to kill Nino unless she's running Fury, and even then a simple Hone/Spur Atk 1 is more than enough to kill her even with Fury.

Before FGO came out people kept saying its system is better than heroes.

I am not fucking buying it I barely drop cash on heroes and got a good number of 5 star units and alot of 4 stars to convert stats or SP to others

FGO I keep getting those dumb fucking upgrade cards

so tierlists seperate by rank but it's not indicative of overall strength? Like are high ranked 3 star comparable with high ranked 5 star? Is the weakest 5 star better than the best 4 star?

Yeah, rank is more towards stats. 5*s will have higher base stats than a 4* and so on, but skills matter too.

4* Seigfried aka Sumanai for example is fucking dead weight.

Usually SSR are better, although plenty of 4* creep up into 5* territory in terms of strength, but I think he means for the purpose of beating events and story content, you can absolutely use certain low rarity characters. Hans as a 2* support unit can be good from start to finish. 3* Cu has a great skill set so he always remains viable, and free event characters like 4* Kintoki are just straight up better than a lot of 5* in his class.

Rank just determines base stats an starting level cap, 5*s will have higher base stats than 2 or 3*s, etc. 1* and 2* will need more materials to get their level cap increased to the same as a 5*s.
That's all that changes are far as rank.
Overall tier ranking is mostly about the servant's skills and NP which matter infinitely more than base stats, which will all fall into a more or less acceptable variance.
In short, it's just a case by case basis.

Alright cool this changes my approach a lot. I'll just try experimenting with characters I like and see what ends up working out. Thank you

I love Titania!
I am saving my orbs for a path of radiance banner, should I wait or are the summer costumes worth it? Altought I dont really like them that much.

The 1* Arash's Noble Phantasm can outdamage 5* Noble Phantasms. It kills him though, so it's more of a "if you really want to kill the boss" move

F/GO can be beaten with 3*s and welfare servants.
Just use who you like and it will work out.

Gimmick banners you roll to please your dick. If you want conventional units, better to wait.

Linde is the best blue mage retard

At least neither are Exvius bad

I got FRobin after 90 orbs and I gotta say, Lance Valor is definitely worth it for the future even if you don't want to use FRobin herself.

I usually have to methodically grind out units to give them as little EXP as possible to maximise SP gain while training. Lance Valor trivializes this as units can now double their SP gain. Best part is that it works on your entire party, not just the unit with the skill.

I have played that piece of shit since english launch, and while I quit doing anything about 4 months in since it was such an offensive piece of shit, I still collected login bonuses and daily crystal quests. And in all that, all those rolls, I have never once gotten a rainbow crystal. Even that free 10 draw we just got for the anniversary, no rainbow. That game needs to be placed in the fucking trash where it belongs. At least these two shitty games don't have a collab event with ariana grande, a singer so bad she makes people explode when listening to her.

I can build the same team (minus Titania). I really want to find someone to sub out Eliwood, though. He's good, but I feel like there's a better unit to fill his role.

FE
>3% rates to roll for any 5* unit and that % increases with every non 5* roll
>All units come with randomized natures meaning you are likely to get one with stats

FateGO
>1% rate to get a 5* servant
>The gacha can also give you equipable items instead
>No stat variations in identical servants, meaning you don't fucked by natures

Personally I prefer FateGO's gacha, since once you get a servant you are at least guaranteed a usable unit

Different user, but i'm waiting for Xander to come around again. Tried rolling some orbs I had for Eldigan, but I got a -atk Leo instead.

>IV system
This alone makes FEH a fucking terrible gacha. Kill yourselves Nintendorks

>Mfw 5* shitters like Jakob and Peri that are worse than common skill fodder

Rienhardt is trash without his tome. I love when teams in arena have him because he's so easy to shit on.

I have 5* Eliwood and he's good, but I 5*d Xander recently to cheese Clarisses' Infernal GHB. He's basically the opposite of Eliwood and they both have their uses.

Not PvP, just AI controlling another person's characters