Can we talk about WC3, Battle net with better ping and what we wish for WC3 remastered/WC4?

Can we talk about WC3, Battle net with better ping and what we wish for WC3 remastered/WC4?

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Sadly Sup Forums is too casual to know about WC3, these children only played custom game kiddie pool with Footman Frenzy and assfaggots

>i'm a complete faggot: the post

play me in Risk, faggot

Similar idea with a campaign focused on persistent heroes and storytelling.

Heroes that are less fucking gamebreaking/immortal.
Less of the game focused on creeping.
5th+ race.

Clientside lag, no server-side delay on every single action like sc2.

I don't think custom maps will ever flourish again. The people who created them back in the day are able to use actual game development tools now to create standalone games, as they are more easily accessible.

More viable builds for any given race, and tower rushing less viable.

Why was there no competitive WC3 scene? Blizzard's previous RTS became a landmark in competitive gaming.

>Heroes that are less fucking gamebreaking/immortal.
Considering regular units were quite beefy I think it was fair to make the heroes as powerful as they were.

I want Warcraft 4 to be Blizzard's way of Hard-booting Warcraft right now since it's narrative has been put third behind PVP and PVE.

Daddy Khadgar is fine and dandy, but still a time skip would be nice.

True, though I've never been that good myself. 50% win ratio until I stopped playing. Still great memories.

There actually is, mostly dominated by chinese these days.

I'll fucking dunk you - 1v1 me you shit.

>Glad you could make it, Uther
>Watch your torgue u fooking cunt m8
What the fuck was Uther's problem? How's saying "I'm glad you made it" warranting of watching own's tongue?

Because the game was not balanced properly. Orcs and night elves were the only viable races in competitive play.

Lordaeron TA>Every other custom map>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Main game

>Heroes that are less fucking gamebreaking/immortal.
>Less of the game focused on creeping.
>More viable builds for any given race, and tower rushing less viable.

these flaws wouldn't even exist if Blizzard didn't cease to give a fuck about W3
what the game needs are proper updates on a regular basis, it aged pretty well and even casuals can enjoy it

Wc3 was way more popular pretty much everywhere outside Worst Korea. Chinks alone made it gigantic.

Dont be autistic friend

They're ALL viables. And I can't believe you didn't even include humans.
Even UD who are slightly below the other races in term of viability still manage to win tournaments, 120 is a beast.

It's pretty top tier bantz to tell your superior he's late.

Reboot the whole setting, bring in a proper showrunner. Someone to do Metzen's job, but instead of an overpromoted artist get an actual fantasy author.

The meta game constantly changed. It was all about human archmage vs orc blademater in the early days. Or mountian king + archmage. Current games are nothing like what I played back then, though the blademaster is still top. Everything works in casual games.

People don't consider it to have had a competitive scene?
It was one of my favourite of all time, perhaps it's just not as popular in america?

>WC4

user i...

>compatibility patch for older maps. i forget what patch it was maybe 1.14, but a lot of older maps became obsolete.
>no wc4. i have 0 faith that it will be any good. the story is fubar.

Some heroes are just straight gamebreaking.

Blademaster and DH instantly become the focus of the entire game when created.
Archmage has unlimited summons, able to create 10sup worth of ranged units for "free" plus his own DPS.
UD can tab-burst any unit or hero for 500-1k instantly.

Paladin is pathetic compared to DK. If anything, the worse unit should've been the more mobile one.

Unit health was high and unit damage was low. This made micro much easier, since everything is "slowed down" compared to a game like sc/2 where half your army can die in 2-3 seconds.

5sup heroes have no business being as valuable as 15sup worth of units. The entire melee mode was based around your hero and how you used it, not really about which units you built (or your economy, which was severely lacking in war3)

>Orcs and night elves were the only viable races in competitive play.
>humans have the most WCG medals
hmmmmm

There was a big WC3 scene in Europe and China, although overshadowed by CS in Europe. WC3 scene died around 2010 when World Cyber Games stopped being a thing and SC2 was coming out.

Also the best orc player was European. He actually streams wc3 on weekends. He has like 70% winrate as orc on the competitive wc3 server everyone uses.

>Warcraft 3
>easier micro
Even Brood War fans would call you retarded.

rewatching the scene, it does seem like a flubbed line or poor dialogue.
Maybe it made more sense in the context of the campaign.

Also, they go from banter to serious shit REAL QUICK.

>""""""""""Strategy"""""""""" custom maps

Shit was great its what the main game should've been.

You would have seen a W3 remaster or W4 if they pulled the plug on WoW. Chances are abysmal. Now that they consolidated their online spot with D3 and OW as well, the chances are nonexistent. ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES WOW in Warcraft series is the picture in the dictionary next to vaporware. Unfortunately.

Are you familiar with the concept of sarcasm user?

>Also the best orc player was European
You mean grubby? He was obviously amazing but best orc player? If he wasn't white nobody would be saying that.

w3 micro is very easy
>autocast abilities
>point and click instant abilities
>high health, so mistakes aren't easily punished
>low damage, so mistakes are forgiving
If you're talking about an extended 2-3minute micro battle, okay maybe it gets stressful, but the individual decisions don't have to be made very quickly for you to be competitive.

If you really fuck up, you can become invincible and teleport across the map within seconds. This game was designed for casual players. In real RTS, you're punished heavily for being so far out of position.

The only slightly skillful thing is surrounds, and you can m click mash to do these easily (with enough units) too.

>was
People are still playing this garbage, user. In fact someone is hosting this shit RIGHT NOW. It's infuriating to see what shit taste the people have that are still playing WC3 and all the actually good maps have been forgotten.

I only want TD maps.

But they literally announced it?

This is completely wrong.
It's already in development.
What do you think the sc2 engine team did after they finished that game? Doesn't make sense to launch another RTS brand, or dive straight into sc3.
W4 should be announced this or next year.

t.20lvl

Where did you guys see announcements? Also, I though the sc2 team went on to remaster the first sc?

>If you really fuck up, you can become invincible and teleport across the map within seconds. This game was designed for casual players. In real RTS, you're punished heavily for being so far out of position.
Mothership. Core.

Then again >SC2

>try to play WC3 online back in the days
>building my comfy orc camp
>by the time I have 3 buildings and a couple units I'm already swarmed by 450 elves and ancients

I suck at online RTS

Can we group up and get some games going?

I wish they would make WC3

But I don't think modern blizzard could do it, after seeing the trainwreck that was SC2 and Diablo 3 and modern WOW, I wouldn't want a warcraft 4.

>plays competitive 1v1 game
>DUDE WHY AM I PUNISHED FOR BEING SLOW AND RETARDED LMAO

Not a single Orc player was as good as he was at his prime.

you're overly aggressive and projecting, you can see I even admit to sucking and didn't complain about it, something tells me you're the kind of bronze heroes who shits on people on competitive games when he has 3500 hours played and is still teamed with bots and new players.

Um, he literally won both WCG and ESWC?

>he thinks he can build comfy shit in an online RTS match
Just play vs an easy AI then

lyn was far better than he was.

Aside from W3 and SC, what are some interesting competitive RTS?

That's literally not what he said at all. Try and kill yourself you elitist piece of ass.

AoM? Still has a strong community

We could argue all day about it but "far" better is definitely going overboard.

AoE2.

I just wish RTS, but really multiplayer games in general, were less meta.

No it was DBZ Tribute for me

>what do we wish for in WC4

Don't worry yourself over what should or shouldn't be in WC4, Blizzard knows how to make gookclick games :^)

what stopps you from playin it again ? there are still weekly cups and you still find online games in less than a minute.

What meta? It's a real time game, whoever does things faster obviously going to have an edge. A quick player with worst strategy will beat a slow player with best strategy.

Whats the fastest you can make "a guy" and attack your opponent?
That's how fast someone on ladder is going to do it to you.

There's no time to be comfy in RTS, seconds are precious.

You can turtle up (towers) to avoid getting rushed, at the cost of being less of an offensive threat.

What was the "best" neutral hero? I always bought a Dark Ranger for the possession spell.

Red alert 3 was competitive until EA dropped any and all support and stopped patching the game

Yeah I guess it was.
I meant more that lyn could consistently beat grubby at his prime.
Got any good matches?
I loved playing that game in high school.

>weird rp shit like life of a peasant
>all those dbz maps
>footmen frenzy and dota
>tower defense maps
>all those shitty rpgs using videogame characters

Man what a golden age, kids these days really missed out

I'm a big fan of the panda. Drunken flame is devastating on lower HP units, which is basically every ranged and even most races melee.

Naga is playable
BM, Tinker, and FL all have some possible cheesy push strats.

> WC3 remastered

But the game works just fine to this day. Why would anyone pay twice for the same shit.

The pandaren is definitely up there.

I miss LOAP so much

get people back into playing it.

There's like 100 people playing at this point, hard to get games going

>WC4

Just kill yourself already.

next Warcraft will be a mobile game. Blizzard hates the hardcore crowed they want more normies goys.

Jesus, how young you are?

Dark Ranger is the only one good enough for a first pick. Neutral heroes are mostly STR based, which makes them only usable as second picks.

Let me guess, you are american?

I miss the "Who's the vampire" - building a comfy village by day and slaying scrubs at night was great fun.

SC only got as big as it did in korea because to koreans it was the first real PC game they ever had since they were just starting to get their own internet at the time starcraft released and blizzard actually gave it a korean translation

>UD can tab-burst any unit or hero for 500-1k instantly.
Too bad they're not picked much because Orc Blademaster is insta-win against the exposed acolytes and they really can only get out of their shitty early game against NE, against every other race they're super disadvantaged.

who is ready to GCS?

CoH

Disgusting

>w3
>before streaming/video was a (popular) thing
>download a shoutcast (audio recording) of pro replay
>sync it up with the replay by pressing play at the proper time
Maximum comfy

That's not really correct. One nerub by acos (it's a cheap upgrade) and dust shuts down that harassment. At T2 you get even more built-in base defense.

All races are viable. I see dests in tons of games.

Here's my wishlist:
- small unit cap and micro heavy gameplay
- the game to not be horde v alliance v legion

even in a game without meta people that build quickly and efficiently will win from someone who is slowly simming up not minding any efficiency. Even if they would rebalance the entire game every week before a meta could take hold you would still get buttraped

WC3 as an RTS is okay-tier.

Custom games are the only reason it was played for as long as it was, and in that capacity its GOAT

So whose lying?

Loved wintermaul and wmw, sheep tag was pretty nice too

There was one, but wasn't as big as SC1.

>exposed acolytes
Learn to wall them in dumbfuck

The most memorable moment I had with LOAP was when I made a joke version of it and tricked people into picking the 'OP' factions that I nerfed into the ground. A map wide teleport suddenly barely moved the character a step in front of them.

>>Got any good matches?
>I loved playing that game in high school.

>RA3
>highschool
hold me Sup Forums

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>nerfing the mayor and mafia

I used to like being the mailman. I eventually found out you could get NPC's to patrol the graveyard as the undertaker and make even more money than the mayor passively if you worked at it from the start.

Undertaker job was GOAT. The money and experience put you in a better position than everyone else.

When you picked the mayor in my map, the personification of your greed would appear and kill you, followed by it rampaging around the map permanently and killing any peasant unlucky enough to get in its way.

Choice between playing the same game over and over or playing a variety of unique custom games with differing rules. Who is the real casual?

No, I played Civilization Wars and Warlock.

>tfw no Warcraft Skylines or Warcraftcities

Brood War has ridiculously difficult micro, due to the incredible overhead of actions you have when playing. Also, all your units have brain damage and a terminally retarded.

Oh yeah, that was great.

Never knew I wanted this until now.