There are people who think this is better than Mario 64

>there are people who think this is better than Mario 64.

hi

>Sup Forums is wrong and has shit opinions as usual
No surprise here.
Where my BowsJr fags at?

I don't think it's better than 64 cause 64 is my favorite of the 3D mario games but the people that think 3D world/land are better than Sunshine or Galaxy or 64 are all nuts.

Best controls of any 3D Mario.

You cannot argue against this.

Yup.
Hoping for a HD on Switch, please Nintendo.

I think the aesthetics outweigh the inferior movement mechanics which is why I like it more than 64.

>finally put yoshi in a 3d mario
>he's actually less useful than mario by himself

Muh triggers.

All other 3D Marios control better than Sunshine

Not better
But equal is debatable

Sunshine is my favorite Mario game, including the 2D platformers. Theres absolutely nothing you can do about it.

>There are people who will defend this

And I am one of them
Prove me wrong

it doesn't have the castle, but other than that it's more comfy

This. Sunshine perfected the controls.

Gamecube nostalgia is a mental illness.

>Unironically using game grumps footage
Wanna know how I know you've never played it?

B-BUT MUH BLUE COINS AND SAND BIRD!

Shame about the level design though.

>B-BUT FLUDD AND BLUE COINS

Still valid complaints. Good controls don't mean shit when the levels don't complement them.

>20 Shines locked behind Blue Coins
>Literally impossible without a guide to get some of the ones in Noki Bay and Pianta Village without
Come on, NO ONE defends Blue Coins in Sunshine.

here's your last level bro
sorry its just a flat area with few mushrooms

There are times the camera feels fine and times when I want to strangle whoever OK'd it.

Speaking of, who the hell OK'd the diving mechanics?

It actually lets you control the camera, so yes, it's better.

Neat, now use Vinny's footage.

>BUT MUH VOICE ACTING AND RED COIN STAGES AND WORSE FINAL BOSS FIGHT IN ANY 3D MARIO GAME TO DATE

Yoshi was always useless.

>have to get watermelon from point A to point B between a fuckton of the flipper enemies who can't die and will flip/pop the watermelon
>if the watermelon is ever "pressured" in any way it will get popped
>Watermelon will get popped from the lightest nudge against a poll
Defend this.

I think that Shine is most people's least favorite. I like Sunshine and even I hate that mission.

Defended.

"get good"
jsut bump the watermelon really hard so it flies past the second level and onto the beach and your fine as long as you don't have pariknsons and knock it into the water. I unironically like the watermelon level besides out the watermelon had fucking weird collision with the amphitheater and would bug out and telport through the pole.

Neither of them are very good. Crash was a far better platformer

>plebs on Sup Forums hate sunshine
sunshine was so fucking good it just shows the taste of the retards who are on this board

in mario world he can fly, spit fire, give mario an extra hit, allow mario to jump higher

in mario sunhsine he just falls into water and dissolves

2D Mario is better than 3D Mario anyway

mario 64 - 3 awesome unique bowser levels

mario sunhsine - 1 bowser level where you need to control a boat with fludd

If you dive into the melon it'll pop.

t. just played this level today.

That's nearly all it has going for it, though. The controls (and nice water effects) are wasted on shitty levels like Pinna Park and Noki Bay

I blame Dolphin and the emumemers for that. Definitely a cancer.

>There are people who defend the poison river
>There are people who defend Corona Mountain

Jesus christ worst 3D Mario. kill yourselves sunshinefags.

Flud becomes a fucking chore halfway through it.

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>Just run back across the railing and hover to get any red coins you missed
>Use FLUDD carefully to guide the boat

SAY IT WITH ME

WORST 3D MARIO

Sunshine levels are bigger than I gave them credit for. I guess just the fact you can see the entire course at once makes them seem smaller.

THIS IS MY LAST RESORT

There are no bad 3D Marios

Gelato Beach is hands down the worst level, it's just three horizontal planes and has objectively the worst missions. There are TWO (2) that involve actual emphasis on platforming, the rest is a Wiggler battle, killing the Cataquacks, another recycled El Piantissimo level, Red Coin mission (underwater one might I add) and the infamous watermelon.

Who approved of this stage?

fuck off pedophile

>He doesn't mention the tedious boat ride needed to access the stage
>He doesn't mention the pipe at the end of the river that sends you back to Delfino

Unpolished piece of shit gane

sunshine
25% platforming
25% looking for blue coins
25% chasing dark Mario
25% cleaning up muck

mario 64
100% platforming

I never thought of it that way but you're right. Though I have a soft spot for Piantissimo, I kinda wished they put him in other games as a douchey guy who just happens to be dressed as the game's npcs

Nice bait
This game is O B J E C T I V E L Y better
I don't mean that I liked it more
I mean it was FACTUALLY AND TRULY BETTER
The controls were infinitely tighter than 64. The graphics were far more advanced. The story was slightly more complex without getting overwhelming. FLUDD was a fucking masterpiece when it came to control and level design.
SM64 is a very good game, but SMS is objectively better.

I agree with both of these.

In addition to its gameplay flaws, this game triggers my autism because you keep chasing Shadow Mario LONG after you find out who he is

I did mention the boat. Don't just blindly shoot water and it's easy as fuck to control.

You're not forced to take the pipe either. Anyone with a brain would know that exits to different areas take away your red coins, would see the side rails can be walked on and would finish off getting the red coins that way.

>People actually defending the lily pad level
What the actual fuck?

>tighter controls
>being able to slowly hover over any platform

also the framerate felt worse than mario 64

Wowww look at all that platforming

>fuck off pedophile
Nigga do you even know where you are?
Even people here think traps are not gay.

Probably because it is.

Almonds are getting activated.

Traps aren't gay tho

So you have to try multiple times to do it this way then the normal way?

To be fair the Piantas are blind or stupid and the disguise was clearly for them.

traps are gay

yeah but lolis aren't bowser goddamn junior
get some taste you fucking freak

>Implying it's hard
It's not my fault you're shit at videogames. I bet you didn't even know to shoot water forward to slow the lilypad down and make collecting the coins even easier

>proving my point

no they arent

reminds me of sonic adventure 2
>different colour
>doesn't even run, airshoes everywhere
>deep edgy voice instead of TOTALLY RADICAL COOLGUY
>"THIS BLACK AND RED HEDGEHOG IS CLEARLY SONIC!"

Come on.

Some of them probably are.

If traps aint gay then the world is flat.

Regardless of its difficulty what the fuck is a level like that doing in a platformer, Sunshine has so few levels that require any substantial platforming. It's not a coincidence that people's favorite levels are the ones where FLUDD is removed.

Now show how Speedrunners do this mission

Are Piantas the biggest retards in the Mushroom world?

Does anybody who isn't a speed runner do the mission like this?

It's all people who couldn't git gud

>lolifags telling others to get taste
Wew.

Is it has ass and tits its 2/3 woman
2/3>1/3 makes it rounded a full woman.
Earth is dickformed

What are you taking about? The entire game is a platform. You're jumping and moving from place to place.

Tired of this der herr Sunshine doesn't have platforming meme

>People will defend Nokis having a massive red coin fish swimming around

thanks bro

i'm a barafag actually
but my argument still stands
lolis i can at least understand

It's not a meme, most of the missions in Sunshine have you doing stuff like cleaning an eel's teeth.

>barafag telling others to get taste
Wew daddy. You are gave me a good laugh.

mario games apparently aren't allowed to be inventive or break away from the formula

it was hard when I was a kid but when I retried a few months ago I got it first try

grow up

better taste than bowser jr :^)

That isn't even speedrunning, is TA dick weaving.

Yes

>bashing /ourboy/
Stop right now.

>that text in the bottom image
clever

>bowserfag trying to tell other barafags to get taste
HA
HAHAHAHAHA
also stop posting him in literally any thread that is remotely gay

also shotacon is illegal in many countries

>grisser
disgusting, awful taste

sunshine had the best levels, controls, camera (((story))) and atmosphere
64 was the most bland and clunky game in the series and galaxy 1 and 2 were too linear

>shotacon
Legal where I am right now.

What's the hardest Shine to get in Super Mario Sunshine?

What's the hardest star to get in Mario 64?