Who are you?

>Who are you?
>WHO CARES, SEND HIM TO THE BLOCK

You have to be actually retarded to want to fight alongside these idiots.

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I haven't played vanilla Skyrim in so many years that when I see these screenshots I can't believe how shitty it looks

Yeah, the smart people fight for the confirmed coward and traitor, right?

Because one bitch being a bitch is a preferable comrade to a literal thalmor puppet for a leader

eNDERIAL

Don't forget that he's a literal Nazi

>picking a side
You're benefiting the gestapo elves either way

Tullius>Ulfric

>Your job is to remove the heads of everyone who gets handed to you in order to stop the rebellion
>Questioning orders is what lead to the rebellion in the first place
>Someone gets handed to you
>Do you question orders, and get killed yourself, or do you do your job?

I still cant believe how badly large the helmet is.

>retard captain does retarded things
>REMOVE IMPERIALS - You
>dragon appears and starts to fuck shit up
>Ulfric """"""""""""""never surrender"""""""""""" Stormcuck panics and heads for the nearest nordic shithole cuckshed along with other stormcucks
>General "balls of steel" Tullius stays and guides civilians AND other prisoners to safety
>all legionnaires do the same
>if you follow the legionnaire and you meet a couple of aformentioned stormcucks he opts for a diplomatic approach (but still ends in bloodshed because average stormcuck iq is about the same as the local climate)
>if you follow the stormcuck and you see the legionnaires HURR MUH LAND EMPIRE GIT OUT
Really makes me think

Actually, no. Picking a side and ending the civil war is the worst outcome for Thalmors. You should choose the empire, of course.

Get that fence post out of your ass you radical centist faggot

He didn't leave the empire the empire left him
and Morrowind
and Hammerfell
and Orsinium
and Skyrim

Three provinces rebelled.
The Argonians are doing their own thing now.

That leaves Cyrodil (compromised by the Thalmor currently) and High Rock.
Not exactly a dream team and collectively the weakest group in Tamriel.

>can't ignore both sides
>can't annihilate both sides
>helping on side only pretty much changes guards in the villages

>the empire left him
Is that why they are still defending Skyrim?

>Derp I have to be the world hero amirite guys

Literally, why the fuck would you care. You don't know the ACTUAL result of your actions before you take them, so hindsight is removed.

We have already seen how the imperial are cucks before the elves, why should you follow the nu-males who had a woman captain willing to kill you "just cause"

General Tullius was there too, so don't give me some shit that they haven't done this before. The Imperial Legion is full of people making hasty decisions without thinking of the consequences.

Your reasoning is stupid and so are you. The fact that I have the hindsight of a wiki at all only empowers my decision even more.

But by all means, enjoy working for Ulfric Stormcuck.

>here are two shit sandwiches but you HAVE to choose one! If you don't you are a fucking faggot mmm oh yes munch munch I love the taste of shit. What the fuck user why haven't you chosen your shit sandwich?! FUCKING RETARD
I choose to alt F4 and play a game that doesn't suck fat chode.

frankly I just chose the side which minded the civilians during the attack. Tullius was "get all the women and children to safety" then gets to you, some retard who was about to get executed anyway and urges you to get to safety. The stormcloak route was "every man and woman for himself but skyrim for the nords my ancestors are smiling upon me and sheeeit."
So yeah, I went with the side that actually cared about its people. Mind you the village was a Nord village, so that showed that the Empire doesn't give a fuck about your race as long as you're a citizen

>Literally, why the fuck would you care.
Because I love Romans and anything that resembles them.
>imperial are cucks
Tullius explicitly tell you that once Ulfric is dead and the civil war ends, they'll fight the thalmors.

I'd be for an independent Skyrim if Ulfric wasn't the leader of the Stormcloaks.

>talks about honoring old Nord traditions, fighting to the death in what he believes in, etc
>surrenders immediately without hesitation once he's ambushed by a unit of Imperial soldiers when his men were ready to die fighting in what they believed in, him.

Ulfric Cuckcloak is more like it.

They don't have science to prove if you're innocent or not. You could just be a stormcloak trying to escape. Can't take those chances. At least Tullius didn't arrest you on sight when you next meet him.

>Being able to do anything when almost all your men are tied up.

You can't be this stupid.

t. Americans

He already willing betrayed the Empire and became an active agent for the Thalmor before he found out about the Empire's peace treaty.

He's also a confirmed multiple times to be a coward, first with his betrayal of the Empire to the Thalmor to save his own skin and then with his surrender rather than fight to the death with the Empire at the start of the game which surprises even his most devout followers.

Ulfric is completely and utterly full of shit, even the "false" Emperor has more balls than he does. Skyrim would be screwed if he was running it, the Thalmor would walk right over them.

From Skyrim?
The only thing the Empire is defending are the ADs legal rights under the concordant.

The Empire isn't dying user the Empire is dead.

>Implying there are only two options
You can always choose not to care.

>ulfric stormcuck gets loose
>runs to safety
>doesn't cut loose his men
>that one stormcuck who got free that you would follow if you were a retard
>doesn't cut loose his comrades
>doesn't help the evacuation of civilians (which were Nords by the way)
Stormcucks are cowards

>Can't take that chance

So kill him? Why not jail? They have jail cells? They even say "He's not on the list". They even have records of a fucking horse thief so don't tell me it's just a lack of data.

It's lazyness, and lazyness was the reason they wanted to kill YOU. I know it's a scripted scene, so you obviously won't care as much, but in reality if a group almost ended your life you wouldn't be like "Welp, I gotta fight for them cuz 1 rotten apple doesnt mean everything (:>)

>get untied
>still escapes
nice try stormscum

The only thing the Empire imports to Skyrim is elves and tyranny. Skyrim can manage just fine without both of them.

>be Dragonborn, a literal aspect of Akatosh given physical form
>have no claim to any sort of Empire or Kingdom

??????????

Both the Empire and the Stormcloaks should have been at their knees asking you to lead them.

You had the opportunity to go for Stormcuck and you fucked it up. Good job.

This. Ending the civil war earlier is for the better of whichever group you pick sides with.

Get the mod where the dragon appears a little later so that you've already had your head chopped off and you don't care.

>Beyond retarded IQ levels detected

Ulfric had no weapons at first, none of them did. You retreated and THEN you had a weapon after finding dead corpse, meanwhile you had a large group of soldiers from the imperials at the ready with bows and swords and shields.

So what makes sense? Stay in a place with barely any equipment with people who tried to kill you and even almost mockingly insulted you, all for them to probably kill you right after, while a dragon is attacking.

Or not be stupid and regroup.

Hey guy whose head we were about cut off get to safety so we can cut your head off after this calms down.

He is the epitome of kindness isn't he.

Too bad this isn't reality you fucking idiot. It's a videogame with its own little universe, and I chose the option that was the best fit for that universe.

Not with a weak and cowardly leader like Ulfric. I actually feel insulted that given everything the game tells you about Ulfirc, he still gets into Sovngarde.

Like is the only requirement to get in there is just die in battle?

Except the only reason they are forced to do that is because of Ulfric's actions. Talor worship, though illegal, was largely ignored until he started his little rebellion. It's strongly implied he was operating under the influence of the Thalmor when he did this.

Say what you will about the Empire but, unlike Ulfric, at least the Emperor himself isn't a Thalmor lackey.

Is this the worst intro in gaming? The first five minutes of the game and some of the worst voice acting and scripting in the entire game. It's like they did the voice acting in order and the four voice actors they used for the game learned as they went.

He is an empire supporter of course he is that stupid.

>skyrim for the nords
>doesn't help in getting them to safety when dragon comes in
>implying you need weapons to help people get to safety
Face it, their main concern wasn't the safety of the civilians, it was to escape.

Not to mention he's a mindbroken plant by the Thalmor in order to irolate and weaken Skyrim (and indirectly the Empire).

Can somebody just post those screencaps. You know the ones

So this bitch and Rikka are the only women in the Empire? They must be real popular with the troops

Why are Stormcloak girls so smelly?

>imperials doing anything other than bending over for the thalmor

haha, but we'll get those pesky elves one day!!..hopefully!!!11

The fact remains that a united Empire is what's best for Man to stand up to the Aldmeri Dominion. Once they Dominion are gone then I'm all for tearing down the weak and corrupt Empire that has no Dragonblood to lead them.

hello brainlets

>Logic means letting everyone die for one village in a place filled with enemies, including letting your leader die. Skyrim = 1 village according to you.

I refuse to believe you are this retarded. YES, you do need men, weapons and armor to help. What the fuck are they going to do with daggers? The moment ulfric would try to help someone an imperial would simply shoot him with a bow, they were already planning on killing him its not even up for debate.

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>Ulfric had no weapons
You know except for the fucking THUUM which is gonna do more against a dragon than an iron sword would have. Ulfric could have shouted back at Alduin but he didn't because he's an opportunistic little bitch who cares more about power than Skyrim.

Who forced them user?
You are almost there don't stop now.

hint:It was the AD.

why does he hold his hand up like that

>Stormcloak calling others brainlets

pot calling the kettle black

I wonder...

Why in all fuck's sake were the dragons the main story when resolving the civil war and taking the fight to the dominion so much more interesting? fucking bethesda, man.

Would rather work with dicks than racists /thread

Wrong. If that were the case how was he even captured? They can't even beat a dragon and you're telling me he is going to help fight alongside the guys who just tried to execute him?

>I need full combat gear to make sure the civilians caught in the dragon mess are safely evacuated
>The moment ulfric would try to help someone an imperial would simply shoot him with a bow, they were already planning on killing him its not even up for debate.
>skyrim for the nords
>wouldn't risk getting killed to save the same people you vowed to """free"""
lel idiot

Olaf is in Sovngarde as well and Olaf was a servant for the dragons so I guess anyone can get in.

Although, to be fair, it's an assumption he was a dragon cultist based on the bard's college quest which includes his raising as a draugr which is supposedly something only the dragon cultists get. That could just be Bethesda though.

To be fair most empire supporters actually believe the Empire is still a thing.
They aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer.

I believe the only requirement is to die honorably in battle, which Ulfric does.

Helgen was an Imperial town.
Fuck the cucks.

The Thalmor showed up that's why, Tullius didn't want any shenannigans like "oh we're here for Ulfric we wanna interogate him oh no he escaped"

>Helgen was an Imperial town.
...full of Nords

Holy fuck, i had no idea there were so many Empirecucks in Sup Forums

If you are siding with the empire in Skyrim, you either have serious mental problems or just troll

>Hurr durr General Tullius cared about the civilians in Helgen, hes the good goy!
Fuck off brainlet, Ulfric and all stormcloacks were tied up and didnt have armor nor weapons. You want them to fight dragons with their fists?

>Hurr durr Ulfric Stormcuck is a thalmor agent!! Gotcha!!!
Fuck off again brainlet, it never says that. It only says that the thalmor fed him information to make him start a civil war. He hates the elves more than fucking Tullius Cuckilus

Death to empirecucks

The Empire is only playing ball for now. Tulius talks about the fact that the great war isn't really over, the peace treaty is really just a ceasefire so both sides can rebuild their forces and go at it again. Ulfric has no intention of doing anything to the Thalmor but kicking them out of Skyrim and he'll probably lose that war anyway.

Again, 1 village = your entire cause.

Why didn't George Washington die in the invasion of New York if he wanted to free all the colonials. He's a fucking Cuck idiot, obviously he didn't intend to really "Free" and it would have been WAY better for the British to win.

>almost 7 years after release
>Empire vs. Stormcloak still being discussed (Stormcloaks were in the wrong by the way)
Todd is a genius and I would buy his games

>skyrim is for the nords*
>*only if they agree with my political and religious beliefs
lel literally a dictator

Jail the prisoner, kill Ulfric.

>but kicking them out of Skyrim and he'll probably lose that war anyway.

m8 you outright see the Thalmor forced out of Skyrim and the Talos shrine restored if Ulfric wins.

Stormcloaks are brainlets, they let women fight in the common ranks.

>Fuck off again brainlet, it never says that.

>After the war, contact was established and he has proven his worth as an asset.

It literally says that not only was he a Thalmor agent but quite a good one.

>Woman Captain

Asset does not equal agent.

If the Empire is dead, why didn't the thalmors give it the final blow and opted for a concordat?
>believing Thalmors propaganda
I wonder who the real brainlet are

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>Hurr durr Ulfric Stormcuck is an asset, he is definitly a spy!!!!! goy!

Seriously, brainlets gtfo. My fucking fork is an asset when i eat, doesnt mean its a fucking double agent. The fucking devil was an asset for jesus, are they on the same side?

As long as someone does something thats beneficial for you, they can be considered an asset

Come with something better next time brainlet

Yes the town was under Imperial control.
If it was a Stormcloak town I am fairly certain Tully is a wise enough military mind they would not have stopped there.

The Nords in that town made their choice and had to settle for Imperial protection.
How did that work out?

Majority doesnt really know what they really want
If they genocided Cyrodill all other provinces would fight against them because they would know they are next
I dont think "empire" suppoirters are intelligent enough to know meaning of such complex word

Because they dont have the required manpower to occupy the entirety of thalmor and achieve their goals, thats why they use the fucking empire and its resources to achieve their own goal.

Brainlet gtfo

Ulfric Stormcloak is the Che Gueverra of Elder Scrolls.

You people are retarded. The Thalmor talk about having DIRECT contact with Ulfric, that he was co-operative until the "so called Markarth Incident" and that he should still be considered an asset, just a dormant one.

They were talking to him face to face, asking him to do things that would help them and he did them. What the fuck would you call that?

>giving a shit about the main story in an elder scroll game
you're doing it wrong

So they are mind tricking the AD by being good little puppies and Killing the Stormcloaks who are only fighting the empire is because they are standing in the way of them fighting the AD?

The Empire deserves to die at this point.

The reason we have these threads is the same reason we have Ceasar Vs NCR threads. Because we know basically nothing about one whole side of the equation because it was introduced in game and not actually written well. The Empire is old lore, as are the Altmer. We know all about them. We know what's going on between them. Based on what we know, we can make inferences about them.

But Ulfric is sort of just this angry nationalist who begins the game defeated by the Empire, and the only reason he's still at large is because an actual Deus Ex Machina rescues him and starts the plot of the game. After that he maintains a civil war that surely depleted Skyrim's human resources - though that doesn't necessarily mean defeat because there's historical evidence of stuff like this working out in ancient civilizations, since they didn't have the advantage of aircraft and motor vehicles to transport troops and supplies rapidly and a siege could stall an army for months.

But the game has no follow up. No matter who you win the war for, nothing happens after that. You don't do covert operations for Tulius nor Ulfric to undermine the Thalmor. You don't do anything. You just walk away from it knowing you wasted your time on a tedious series of "kill 'x' soldiers to win" sidequests where half the soldiers are your friends and are preventing more enemies from spawning because there's too much shit on screen already.

>The Nords in that town made their choice and had to settle for Imperial protection.
>How did that work out?
Yeah, it's totally Tullius fault that a world eating dragon appeared out of nowhere.

>Hi, I'm 13 and don't understand geopolitics at all! Praise kek, Trump! xd

At least Che succeeded in defeating the jewish dictator.

Ulfric put them into a position where they had to do that otherwise the war starts again before they are ready. It's not like the nords would be all that helpful in the war anyway, they are canonically only good for canon fodder, so it's no great sacrifice. And why did Ulfric start this war anyway? Because the Thalmor basically asked him to.

If they had sided with the Stormcloaks Ulfric would have entered the fray.

Helgen chose poorly.

All these Talos hating Thalmor is the thread.

>They were talking to him face to face, asking him to do things that would help them and he did them. What the fuck would you call that?
I would call this an example of things that never happened. But by all means, prove me wrong with evidence.

How dare the imperials defend themselves from stormcloaks shenanigans?

They did nothing wrong, if you were to even wise the fuck up and read religious texts relevant to Judaism, you brainwashed dumbfuck.

The man who has a history of fleeing and surrendering when that's not an option would have "entered the fray" himself? I don't think so.