Castlevania Netflix

>religious superstition is bad because the world runs on science
>Dracula is real and can summon a demon army from the abyss

How the fuck does that work?

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Science and religion both exist. The issue is one is using their views to suppress and kill the other.

Satan is good in libcuck land

It doesn't work because the first line of your post isn't said in the show

I can't believe they had the audacity to make the villain the Church.
Castlevania's never had a villainous priest before.

Never played a Castlevania game, how powerful is Dracula? How powerful are vampires in general? Are there more vampires apart from Dracula and his son? How are they made?

It's funny to constantly see these threads made by people who seem to bee too illiterate to watch a simple cartoon.

I didn't say science doesn't exist, I sad the world runs on it, which is clearly implied unless Drac's wife was making shit up about medicine and that observatory in his castle was a prop.

The Netflix series seemed pretty pro christian to me
>God does indeed exist in this world
>hates evil (denied protection from demons to bishop)
>actual priests are pretty good guys who are willing to help, the ones who tried to kill the speaker were literally hired thugs
>holy things are required for killing demons
>Trevor's whip is literally blessed by God to kill demons
Hell, the Archbishop could have been a pretty good guy, considering what the Bishop of Gresit said about having "differences

Dracula is literally evil incarnate in the castlevania universe.

>nu fags mad that the show was decent
>Gotta make shit threads and shit on something people enjoy

unironically kill yourselves

Just because that one guy from the church was bad didn't mean the whole church was bad. They even made a point to bring up all the innocents who were being dragged in for no reason, and that one guy who could still make holy water.

What's interesting is the demon's speech at the end before he kissed the priest. "God exists and he hates you", this god seems alright

Dracula is pretty much Satan.
He commands demons, vampires, werewolves, skeletons, zombies and all other kinds of evil creatures you can imagine.
He also has access to magic and can never be killed for good.

>Castlevania 3 adaptation
>expecting the Church not to be a good guy
Why do you shitposters keep making these dumbass threads?

>because the world runs on science
Demons spell out that god exist he just doesn't like assholes who burn innocent women while powertripping.
Demons do like them though.

pretty sure he makes satan shit himself.

Seeing as Death himself is his right hand man

Dracula made a pact with death to become immortal, this also made him a sort of foundation of dark magic in the setting, his very existence, rather than anything he actively does causes the dead to rise from their graves and monsters to crawl out of the shadows. In terms of power he exercises biblical level plagues a few times, while normal vampires are simply superhuman skilled in magic, they are not normally demigods like him. normal vampires are born from vampire bites, Dracula in paticuler stole another vampires soul during the ritual in which he made the pact with death.

user, why would shitposters pay that much attention to detail?

SUCCUBUS

>4channers
>Everyone on Sup Forums is ACTUALLY an atheifag like le me
Sorry summerfag, Sup Forums isn't an /r/atheism hugbox filled with plebbit upboats and karma

>Hell, the Archbishop could have been a pretty good guy, considering what the Bishop of Gresit said about having "differences
It's more like he was some sort of sick fuck pedophile.

His actions seemed justified in this show. Is he like that in the games?

You can't explain a christian god with science. If he exists, science is just religion.

When was that ever implied?

That's cool. So what does that make Alucard? Is he a vampire/human hybrid with a human conscience and vampire powers similar to his father's? And who's the mother?

Completely untrue. Science and a christian god can co-exist.

Dracula isn't evil incarnate. It's Castlevania (his Castle), that is the conduit of all evil and creates everything, including Dracula. Play AoS and get the 100% ending.

he lost his wife to disease while he was off crusading, which drove him to abandon god and the church and recluse for a long time, then he found a new girl and she was, as you see burned as a witch which turned him against humanity, the curse he enacted then has lingered ever since, and whenever he is brought back to life, the curse and all the monsters come back as well without any action from him anymore.

>he's going to spend the rest of eternity stuck on earth
>wants to kill all humans
Does he realize how boring things will get if he succeeds

Nah, Dracula's in asshole through and through, the only slightest bit of humanity he ever shows in the whole series is at the end of Symphony of the Night when he feels a little bad about his wife dying in the most horrific way possible

Well no, the point is that Dracula is going fucking bananas and will be indiscriminately wiping humanity out so he's a sympathetic villain. Before he dies in game Alucard reveals to him Lisa's final wishes and Dracula becomes remorseful about everything he's done.

If you are a new age bullshitter that disregards half of the religion yeh.

Her getting BTFO in the bad ending was great.

He just wants to kill the ones in Wallachia, remember how he told that old lady to get her family and leave the country?

He is the literal manifestation of the Castlevanaia universe's Anti-God, Chaos. Other vampires are pretty strong, but none can compare to Dracula.

Doesnt he come back again after Alucard kills him though?
These games are so confusing i dont know whats a sequel to what.

The Bishop took it way too fucking far. That demon goes out of his way to tell him that God himself was disgusted by his actions and abandoned him.

What about the games?

My only complaint is that it was too short.

I don't sympahize with New Age believers as they're gnostics under a different name, but you're deliberately obtuse if you think you need to disregard anything about Christianity to reconcile science. Just as stupid as the people you're insulting actually.

>implied
It was directly talked about if I'm thinking of the same scene. The Arch Bishop and another Church Figure are talking during Lisas execution. The other Church guy is questioning why the Arch Bishop did what he did, in a way that he's trying to make him understand how it's not 100% right. And at one point he says he's been studying Chemistry and immediately the Arch Bishop shoots him a "the fuck nigga?" look which shuts up the other Church figure due to fear of execution. Further hinting that the Arch Bishop and Bishop are ruling the people via demagoguery.

What did you expect, with Ennies being the head writer?

Since Dracula had not yet died/lost his human body before meeting Trevor, he made a son which inherited some of his dark powers with a normal human woman named Lisa. Lisa was burned to the stake for wanting Dracula's dick however which turned Dracula into the mustache twirling villain that he is in the series.

Alucard however assisted to his mother's death and her last word was to not hate humans for what they have done because they're just a miserable species already.

Numerous aspects of Christianity directly contradict scientific facts, such as the story of Jesus.

god is inherently ineffable. you cannot come up with a scientific explanation for him, by his own admission.

>all this text
>just to setup your shitty mental gymnastics explanation

Just fucking leave, no one wants you here.

Well it's an adaptation of Castlevania 3, with story moments that were shown in SotN, so that's what I'm sticking too.

>religious superstition is bad
The fuck? It's literally what helps the heroes fight off demons. It's also heavily implied that churches which aren't run by corrupt scumbags are safe from demonic attacks.

The scientific method itself is incompatible with Christianity on a fundamental level. Christianity relies on faith to determine whether its dogma is true, whereas the scientific method is used to create theoretical models based on empirical evidence and even THEN doesn't prove that anything is true.

>another retarded fucking religion thread from a faggot who couldn't bother to pay attention to the show

wish I could run each and every one of you over

how young do you have to be to have this mediocre piece of fiction as your ''babby's first corrupted church''-storyline - and then be completely analchafed about it

CREATIONISM BRO

>another Church Figure
>calls him Mayor multiple times

>samefagging

Catholics dont really see any problem with science since they see it as just discovering how god created the universe.

In Symphony of the Night, where we get the backstory about his wife Lisa. The Netflix series involves events from CV3 and Symphony of the Night (at least the flashbacks from that game).

Heck, Drac reveals himself a pretty decent dude- underneath it all- at the end of SotN, saying that he deserved death and had made a mistake. This was one of the first hints, too, that the Castle, given to him by Satan, was the real enemy of the series, constantly resurrecting Dracula and sending him once again on a genocidal killing spree. In 1999, Julius Belmont figures this out and tries to kill the Castle while Sypha Belnades' descendant, Yoko, seals the Castle within a solar eclipse. But that is a story (Aria of Sorrow) for another time.

The games where he resurrects by time, and where he is resurrected by other people: They play and present themselves very differently
Its almost like Dracula is polite to his summoners. But when he just resurrects, its more like his backyard keeps ravaging the far reaches of the countryside.

SotN adaption when?

great counter argument

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getting you's for religionposting is the new fad

It's just a hamfisted attempt to give Shaft an origin story.

This was not once touched upon or hinted.

>europoor

eat shit, chad

Interesting. If I started with SotN, would that be ruining the Castlevania(tm) experience?

But they never turn the scientific method towards specifically Catholic beliefs, such as God's miracles.

You're making the mistake most people do. "Science" does not mean "the facts and models about how the universe works". It means the process of using the scientific method to test a hypothesis using evidence, and determining if the evidence refutes the hypothesis or does not. This process is incompatible with any faith-based religion.

It's implied by the fact that Arch Bishop is drawn as the most disgusting looking figure in the cartoon. He's a giant fat fuck with a double chin the size of babby's head and he seems to be low energy and barely moving.

Bishop of Gesrit talks about him with disgust which you could assume to be because he's not "pious" (crazy) enough, but since the event Arch-Bishop dies at is literally celebrating Lisa's death, i doubt their views misalign that much

It's more likely that Arch-bishop is just corrupt as fuck with the way he's portrayed.


> Arch Bishop
That wasn't Arch Bishop. It was Bishop (of Gesrit)
>another Church Figure
That was mayor of the city.

This is arch bishop.

Nah, Bro. Dracula is mondo powerful, and has been for some time (even as a human- Lament of Innocence), but Chaos is the heart of the Castle, not of Dracula, per dialog in Aria of Sorrow.

The wasn't the Arch Bishop, that was the regular Bishop who burned Lisa, they even mention the Arch Bishop in that conversation

Why are all catholics getting mad over this show?
Religion in general has only caused wars, hatred and death. Besides we are all in fucking Sup Forums so why do you care

You just can't stop being wrong, can you?

>Drumpfkin Sup Forumstards hating on the golden compass:CV edition
Aww, is Sup Forums angry truth is being spit out?

eat

shit

Both are one and the same. Bringing back Castlevania inevitably brings back Dracula and vice versa.

the edge

what?

>IRL Atheist killed more in a century than Christians in 2 millennium

Drac has Demonic Meggido, power so great that it can actually defeat invincibility cheats

The only games in the classic series that actually matter are Dracula's Curse and Rondo of Blood, you should get the remake of Rondo of Blood (called Dracula X Chronicles) on PSP since it comes with the original RoB and SotN, but avoid playing the actual remake itself and listen to the good soundtrack online, just play the originals it comes with

factually incorrect

churchs are full of rapists tho and that war going on on that shithole filled with terrorrists are fighting because muh religion

Who are you talking to

It's a diversion tactic to get people to stop talking about another high ranking Vatican official being another pedophile that the church has been protecting for decades.

time.com/4838347/australia-george-pell-vatican-sexual-assault-catholic/

Why would Dracula be buddies with the guy who's responsible for the death of his wife?

When religion/science exist in the same world in fiction, it's really not a big deal. It's interesting and it's fun to watch because in FICTION, the religion can have actual tangible existence. There can be demons, magic powers, blessings from gods, etc. And that can clash with science and it's inventions and cleverness.

But in the real world, if anything religions claim to be true actually does exist, it ceases to be religion. Because that's how it works.

Religious superstition is bad because evil men justify their evil actions via it

Are you really that fucking dense?

>buddies

Shaft is just his bitch. They don't pal around.

Thanks, I'll look into it

>Diverting non-vidya shit by talking about a vidya tv show
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I thought that was the Bishop and the Arch Bishop was below him.

Evil men can use any ideology or theory to justify evil actions fucknuts.

>saying that he deserved death and had made a mistake

He never said this and all subsequent resurrections he gets right back to it like he learned nothing.

Actually, Chaos is the source of most of Dracula'so powers, and is quite likely the reason as to why he can revive himself without end. Chaos and Dracula are for all intents and purposes, one and the same.

Then explain why Trump is the main villain

damn, really shafts the gears.

Science is the study of the empirical. There have been attempts throughout history to reconcile this but they've always been people too ahead of their time. From Thoth, and Pythagoras, up the line to Steiner and Cayce. I see where you're coming from, but science is not anathema to religion. Science is born out of numerology which is law from God. This becomes harder to reconcile when you draw the boundary between what is God and what is of the material or cosmic forces if you will, but it's like the Heisenburg Principle of Uncertainty. The more you try to measure the momentum of something, the less certain you can actually be of its position. I disagree with anthroposophy for the same reasons you disagree with what I'm saying. But it's not because "God is ineffable." As Cayce said, if it's of the cosmic force it's not inherently of God, but the cosmic force IN MOTION is God. We're only now beginning to tap into these sciences with the advent of experiments into the zeno effect and whatnot.

You started the argument by kicking up mud about something you don't understand.

>You started the argument by kicking up mud about something you don't understand.

That was a different poster.

In your entire paragraph of bullshit you haven't refuted the simplest of arguments presented to you.

The last chronological event to occur in the original continuity is that Olrox tried to assume the power of Chaos, and Death is who opposed him seeing him as a traitor and pretender of Dracula, which to me would imply the two entities are separate to some extent.