Sup Forums, just recommend me a MMORPG that's still worth it... >inb4 MMORPG's are not worth it
I just need one that feels right/lets you have at least some fun. If it's grindy but the combat is fun ( and you can simply farm in a braindead way ) I don't mind. Any type of MMORPG, old or new.
Fianl Fantasy Twelve: The Royal City of Rabanastre
Carson Rivera
Dark Souls 3
Christian Murphy
The only thing stopping you from having fun is your expectations.
There is nothing wrong with this.
Sebastian Baker
If you're OK with semi-dated anime graphics, I recommend checking out Mabinogi It's an extremely free-form MMO that lets you be or do whatever you pretty much want Want to be a gun-slinging ninja who cooks and plays music? Go for it The combat is enjoyable imo but it could take some getting used to with loading skills and the cooldowns The only real downside is that the game is slowly losing its population, so you don't really see all that many new players anymore
Nolan Bennett
The only one worth playing these days that doesn't require you to invest every minute of every day nor your monthly escort funds.
Camden Davis
name?
Josiah Young
> yeah, I've been into Mabinogi, with a group of friends, and that was my problem. They end up quitting and my mood for the game got completely wrecked Maybe I'll come back one day
I don't know if I should try it, or go back to warmane ( WotLK)
Landon Cook
GW2 is fun because as this user said you dont need to go full autist on it to have fun, besides, its dirt cheap right now. FFXIV is cool if you are looking for a legit adventure. Fun guaranteed, but endgame is kind of meh, all dailies. Kritika is the flavor of the month, fun combat but its instanced, just like Vindictus. Tera can be fun to mess around for a while, far from a quality ride but its free.
Pick your poison.
Michael Foster
>devs de-tag and fuck with players trying to earn money in ways that aren't dungeons >stealth nerf money making that isn't dungeons >nerf dungeons >living story Garbage game.
Jack Howard
>devs actually trying to prevent afk farming >UGH FUCK ANET >literally throw money at players just for playing >UGH FUCK ANET >return dungeon gold back to normal but it's mediocre when you can have fun farming sw >UGH FUCK ANET >actually release content regularly for free >UGH FUCK ANET
I'm so glad you're here. Cheers. If you actually played anytime in the past year you would actually have good criticism like anets inability to balance game mechanics like their recent wvw participation fuckery but oh well~
Joshua Fisher
>see fags saying secret world is the best mmo >lol wtv fags >try it >they were right
Henry Barnes
>logged into my account a few months ago >not a single one of my 50+ friends were online >guild disbanded too Goddamnit. The game I sunk the most time in ever. I ended up at total level 4k (human). I have fond memories of it at least. Mabinogi 2 when ?
Caleb Nguyen
I tried to like it But it didn't glue to me. (even tho the story is interesting)
Benjamin Sullivan
I stoppedat the conclusion of the first living story. There's been no reason to go back. >guys we understand getting a legendary is a pain so we're going to come up with a new way to do so that will be fun for everything >literally nothing happens >XD we tried!
People getting banned left and right on the forums for valid PvP criticism since detailed posts are "trolling." The final straw for me was the boss during the living story. A few of the achievements were bugged and anet were a bunch of smug pricks essentially saying "have to tried to git gud?" And what do you know, the next day there's a hotfix for bugged achievements.
Noah Taylor
Only thing I didn't really like was combat and the female faces. Combat's grown on me now that I'm more leveled. Shame about the faces though.
Tyler Stewart
They've really outdone themselves with that story. There's zero reason to play it after that. Which is good for us because free great story and environment. Sucks for them because no one is going to care enough to spend money and keep the game going.
Great, but the problem with mmo discussion is you actually have to keep up with shit otherwise your criticism tends to fall flat due to recent changes. It has never been this easy to get a legendary, or legendary armor. There are still mindless farms if that's your thing. PvP is legit going back to its roots and just being fun instead of this esports garbage. They've gotten much better at bosses in general. I'm not telling you to try the game again, I don't care whether others play it or not, but it's always just so odd that whenever gw2 criticism pops up it's shit from like 2012 instead of actual big problems the game is facing now (like they LITERALLY said someone at anet would have to work {{{for free}}} just to introduce a keyring into the game - management is ded at anet).
Sebastian Lewis
I'm fighting myself to get back into Uncharted Waters Online. I really can't tell you why the game has me hooked but fuck. That feeling of making your first proper trip to the americas is pretty nice
Parker Torres
pls play wildstar
Caleb Johnson
you realize that you can just join a new guild? I understand it sucks when the guild disbands but it's not like the game is dead now
also the answer to OP is Guild Wars 2
Jonathan Clark
Why the "pls"? Is something happening? Is it good?
Tyler Baker
Sorry, I'm not going back to GW2 until I get the expansion AND until I feel like going through that game again, but thank you anyway
David Anderson
It's dead.
Alexander Perry
Not that user but I'm guessing the pls is because the game needs players
Wyatt Brooks
It needs more players. pls play. it's fun, I swear.
Jackson Murphy
I was the guild officer It just won't be the same. I liked my old guild too much. Plus I think I outgrew the game as well.
Adam Ramirez
hummmm.
Lincoln Sanders
I'll suck your dick, user.
Jordan Smith
Elysium WoW.
Blake Cox
but the hud is yucky
Henry Rodriguez
use forgeui.
Julian Nguyen
ah, for what it's worth the game is definitely still worth playing.
James Hill
thats what mods are for
Gabriel Lopez
I bought guild wars 2 before the expansion came out but didnt really played too much since my old computer couldn't handle it too well. Should i play now considering i wont be playing with friends? How are guilds?
Alexander Rogers
Damn That's a pretty good offer
Ian Young
If GW2 had the trinity I'd be playing it. XIV even after 4.0 launch is barren as fuck and is literally just login to do dailies. WoW is in a better situation than previous expansions, but has trust issues getting people back after the mistakes they made. Most other games seem kind of dead or niche and hard to sell.
Xavier Hall
I think you should give it a shot, if not on release than wait for some review of the server, but keep an eye, it's surly promising.
Charles Rivera
If Legion's titanforging stopped at like 5/10 ilevels and legendaries were handled better it'd be the best expansion they've done period.
As it stands too much RNG on top of RNG that detracts from enjoyment, also the buff/nerfs have felt more bipolar in Legion.
Jaxson Gutierrez
Try TERA. Great combat, cool looking environments and monsters and you can solo farm BAMs and shit, it's almost a bit like Monster Hunter... almost.
Charles Moore
any good mmos in alpha/beta you can play by paying? im that fucking bored
Justin Lewis
Obligatory Wakfu post
Cooper Wood
the game is better now than it has ever been. You can pick up the xpac for 15-20 bucks nowadays easily, but it is by no means required but adds lots of end game content.
Just start chatting in maps or in lions arch and ask for invites to guilds, you'll make some in game buddies to do stuff with pretty fast.
Eli Lewis
is ashes of creation worth it?
Ethan Cox
I need help finding something good to play, maybe theres a hidden gem:
>Trinity or at least fixed classes and roles >Preferably stylized graphics and not generic Chinese shit >Not 'fake' MMOs like DFO and Vindictus instance garbage >Not feeling obligated to spend tons of money in a cash shop to stay relevant or competitive >No stupid gimmicks like having a companion/pet at all times like in Aura Kingdom >Actually has an endgame
>fun >when you need the expansion to do shit >fuck up many endgame like dungeon, fractal, and pvp >raid is once a week boring zerk fest >LIVING STORY If you're still here, stay the fuck away from Guild Wars 2
>They've really outdone themselves with that story. No it fucking not. It mainly your "group" dramadramadrama with Taimi ass pulling and suddenly, HUMAN GODS ARE EVAL. Fuck no. And this is after all the retarded sylvari/sjw bullshit from the personal story/livingstory/expansion.
>but it is by no means required but adds lots of end game content. Stop being a lying cunt. You need the expansion to do any endgame in general. Without it, you're kick from doing anything because you don't have any elite spec. This also lead to making PvP P2W, but they fucking kill themselves with that with the last pvp season.
Grayson Myers
Everquest has that new Agnarr server that won't progress past PoP. I kind of want to try that out but kind of don't because it's got a cash shop.
Samuel Martinez
Whats the catch? I aint buying a game that doesnt allow a free trial period.
Daniel Brown
They're all garbage now, give up
Carter Sanchez
FFXI?
Noah Wilson
It's not the prettiest MMO around, leveling is a bit slow, optimization can feel 50/50 at times if you try to run ultra high on everything forever.
Biggest thing is probably the combat and limited action set are hit or miss for a lot of people, you still need to "aim" but projectiles home in so its not like you can headshot etc, but I like having an active block/roll as well as light and charged attacks as part of the gameplay. You also have 5 skills + 1 ultimate spread across two bars you can swap in combat so its less keybinds more short duration abilities you are constantly weaving.
Cash Shop is terrible in a good way as its purely cosmetic but fairly expensive so if you do feel like splurging it feels kinda terrible for the return. The DLC isn't required and all the gear in the game scales to a specific point so an armor set from the first quest zone and a raid armor set both serve a purpose, its a horizontal treadmill at cap not vertical.
Biggest catch is really no free trial but they do free weekends occasionally but no idea when those come up.
Kayden Hernandez
Not after they made it so easy and you can have a party of NPC pets and solo the whole game.
Parker Foster
Vindictus is the best MMO ever created.
Jacob Price
Understood. This is why I like the game. Very relaxing and my linkshell is pretty fun.
Owen Cooper
final fantasy xiv
Ian Watson
>stylized graphics Define this
Henry Green
Im trying to find something to take a break from it funny enough. Its literally nothing but logging in to do dailies for an hour each day right now.
Cooper Gonzalez
Anime shit, WoW, RO,Tree of Savior. Something I can look at and distinguish that game by its art style instead of those Chinese ones or cheap F2P Korean ones.
Noah Nelson
>tfw Trion didn't die and give AA to a competent developer so the best MMO out currently doesn't also have the worst cash shop of all time tacked onto it.
Hudson Jones
Phantasy Star Online. It's all you will ever need.
Dominic Howard
>>tfw Trion didn't die and give AA to a competent developer so the best MMO out currently doesn't also have the worst cash shop of all time tacked onto it. >>> > Anonymous 07/12/17(Wed)02:27:56 No.383643596 ▶ > (OP) >Phantasy Star Online. It's all you will ever need. Played PSO2 a couple of months ago Grew tired of it Thank you for the suggestion anyway
Ayden Parker
That dated combat though.
Alexander Harris
I assume it fill with chinese farmer land grabber from launcher?
Luis Rivera
Wish they would unfuck Rift instead.
Austin Moore
It's not even that, it's literally the definition of Pay2Win, when they do the fresh start from scratch servers someone can just dump $1000 down and be an unstoppable monster. Which is exactly what a guy named Kirito did on the latest fresh start servers
The game has solid systems but it is designed around hooking in whales and the grind as a F2P player is almost impossible, grind as a subscribed player is still almost impossible.
I never tried Rift much sadly, I thought it looked really fun but I was too busy playing Lotro, another game that got absolutely fucked by its developer.
Henry Turner
I like DFO. The stamina system is fucking awful, though, but you can mitigate it decently with the fatigue potions you get by playing.
But I like arcadey games and mindless grinding for bigger numbers so it works for me for a couple hours a day.
Hudson Rivera
Fucking degenerate Gw2 posters. Enjoy getting fucked in the ass by Anet.
Austin Morris
>don't need expac for any of the LW3 maps and content coming out >dont need xpac for WvW >don't need xpac for PvP >dungeons died but if you get a guild you can still run them >practals and PvP are fine >Living story season 1 was kinda shit but 2 and 3 are both great, and season 3 has offered a new map for free
>Without it you're kick from doing anything because you don't have espec get a good guild and don't use the LFR function like a not autistic person?
Christian Clark
PSO2 is garbage. I was very disappointed.
I still play PSO time to time.
Oliver Reed
WoW is the best its been since Wrath right now. People are jaded by past mistakes and clinging to their youth where they were easily impressed and had their mind blown by their first online worlds. A game cant bring that feeling back. Best you can do is find the best content available.
James Bell
>my ass:the post You need expansion to be tip-top shape, with elite spec, do even compete in PvP or your ass get rape. Same goes with WvW, but that just trading wins with other server these days. Yeah, it alright that you get less reward and you have to pay to open your reward in the Fractal. That totally fucking fine. Season 2 and 3 are just fucking horrible, with your team either being lesbian, having an arc dedicated to lesbian relationship abuse, or your team being retarded because they don't know what to do or whats going on.
>get a good guild and don't use the LFR function like a not autistic person? There no such thing as good guild when you have all those 5 guild limit nonsense. Stop shilling your shitty ass game in this board.
Adam Miller
>don't need xpac for PvP/WvW Say that to the espects, if your going in base class your fucked bar niche builds that even then under perform compared to the especs.
Chase Sanders
He probably a shiller if you notice all the fucking praising in this thread.
Matthew Flores
well yeah nah shit you need the expac to be top tier, that's the same for every MMO, but the point is you can still fine in PVP if you are good , and plenty of base class builds are still used in WvW.
yeah diversity's edge is kinda in your face but if you aren't some faggot from Sup Forums and doesn't flip shit the second they see a lesbo its a good overarching story, especially when compared to the complete shit WoW has been pulling up.
>There no such thing as good guild when you have all those 5 guild limit nonsense
what?I'm in 3 great guilds. You know you can still be in guild chat with repping a guild right?
Gabriel Perry
How do we save the genre?
Hard Mode: The answer isn't total sandbox freedom and world building Nightmare Mode: No bullshit about merging real life with the game such as apps, currencies, etc
Kevin Harris
Why the fuck would anyone ever shill on Sup Forums when they can shill on reddit and just pay the admins to give it 5000 upvotes and reddit gold, nobody cares enough about Sup Forums to shill on it.
Blake Perez
Okay this is some high level delusion over here. All this would mean that the game isn't free to play, and there are tons of free to play mmos that you could play. And no, you're "not" good if you're not have any elite spec and I talk to many f2p players that avoid pvp/quit the game for this reason alone. I would rather take WoW's latest shit over the SJW shit that GW 2 shilling out. The whole 5 guild system kill any proper tie a guild in another mmo would normally have since instead of one guild full of strangers, now you got a max of 5.
Marketers been advertising this place for years, whether it subtle or not.
Levi Baker
Swap the trinity from Tank/Heal/DPS to Control/Support/DPS and have characters be more self sufficient so that you aren't completely locked into strict whack a mole healing classes and combat can feel more fluid like Monster Hunter/Tera, less like WoW.
Make PvE a more horizontal landscape instead of it always being Questing to level -> Dungeons -> Raids.
Make PvP worldwide vs instanced secondary garbage.
Colton Williams
GW2 called he says shit didnt work out
Dominic Bailey
alright thats true i suppose, I honestly forgot that GW2 had gone f2p. Though if you view it as a 1 time purchase mmo with the expac, it's one of the best on the market, especially if you aren't piss scared of "le SJW boogeyman".
But if you are looking for a f2p mmo that doesn't require any money to enjoy, idk what i would reccomend. Those maplestory rebirth servers that made the cash shop cosmetic only? I really haven't played a f2p mmo in a while.
Nicholas Murphy
Except GW2 abandoned the trinity all together, Monster Hunter has had role-less PvE content that's worked for over a decade.
A Tanks job is to keep enemies attention and not die, nowadays thats become "press aggro button -> press defensive cooldown"
Healers should be about supporting/buffing/keeping people alive but its just whack a mole staring at health bars or doing nothing.
Tanks/Healers aren't allowed to do as much/more damage as DPS classes because then whats the point of DPS? Due to the ratio of Tanks/Healers to DPS you also can't make them absurdly strict and complex because then you lower the population even more.
Big MMOs have pushed all the complexity onto damage dealing and created environments where doing as much damage as humanely possible is the only way to play, best tank? It's the tank that can tank and also do damage, healer is the same thing. It's not about group synergy, its not about fulfilling certain requirements, its literally "X role is so easy that the only way I can grow is to just add more damage".
Colton Reyes
>buy in for ff14 is like $85 >or I could just resub to wow for $15
I feel like either option is a bad one.
Bentley Lewis
No its not. Are you implying you have to buy the expansion(s) immediately, and that you cant play a game without a fucking boost?
Levi Martinez
GW2 has a similar system to the controls/support/DPS, no whack a mole classes, but the combat is basically just WoW combat with dodge rolls.
>make PvP worldwide IMO this has never worked in games that do this. having designated pvp in overworld areas is probably the best solution.
Tyler Sanchez
I like Tree of Savior.
Leo Jones
MMORPG's are not worth it
Henry Wright
When I think worldwide PvP I think like Warhammer Online.
Thomas Myers
Yes.
Ethan Ross
I never played that one, maybe that one was better.
Jace Bell
Open PvP but designated areas as well, the game was designed around people actually doing the world PvP areas.
It still had battlegrounds but they weren't as fun, and the map open world "keeps" were designed well enough to allow for funneling/flanking so massive zergs didn't always win out since player collision existed. If you just kept running into a meatwall with Bright Wizards behind it you were never going to get past it.
Ryan Powell
I want a modern MMO with Tibia style housing. Not sandbox where people can build shit anywhere, but towns and hubs and little inns where people can buy the houses and turn them into shops. I guess BDO has something like that but all the housing is shared I think and its limited what you can do with it. I wanna open a shop in an mmo!!
Xavier Parker
BDO is the most frustrating MMO because like many others it has a lot of good systems but the combat is wasted on the game since its never fucking utilized well, the actual "content" to do is all really fucking terrible too.
Josiah Torres
If Carbine wasn't retarded they'd aggressively go after jaded SWToR players that are quitting in droves.
Elijah Lewis
>SWToR players that are quitting in droves. I thought the game is deader than titanic. What the hell cause the remaining players to leave? Is it more Revan shit?