You know it will happen

>Evo reveals and new demo comes out

>New characters are revealed, the roster is confirmed to be 34-40 characters instead of the first leak everyone took for granted even tho not even the leaker was sure about it.
>visuals look significantly better than in the early story demo build, and while not as good as other current 1on1 fighters the difference will be similar to how MvC3 looked worse tthan SF4.
>the gameplay is again confirmed for being solid and better than MvC3 by even more people.

Will you apologize or continue shitting on the game for new reasons?

It's just not going to happen, the game isn't even fun. It has autocombo and is too slow to be considered MvC. I wish we were getting an HD TvC instead

>Asking this to Sup Forums
What did you fucking expect?

MvC3 has autocombo you fucking halfwit. You can turn it off.

why are capcops posting here like it's even remotely possible to salve the trash that is their new age business practices

adapt to your playerbase or rot as a company and get bought out in 5 years. sf5 looks like poopoo garbage and infinite looks like a phone game. i'd rather just stay left behind at this point.

It took Capcom almost a year and a half to somewhat fix SF5 (and it still got Ken's dumb face and clipping everywhere)

I doubt they're going to be able to do anything with MvCi in a few months.

The first leak still has not been disproven.

I would be more inclined to try it out on the slim chance that any of that happens.

But why would i apologize for having bad impressions on something that didn't look good from what they showed so far?

If their goal was to stop people from shitting on it they should have shown better content in the first place.

That's pretty dumb considering that TvC is the slowest Vs. game by far.

I just wish it had cross play.

>why would i apologize for having bad impressions on something that didn't look good from what they showed so far?
because you were shitting on the game based on the looks of an outdated alpha build and a rumor about the roster not even the leaker was sure about

>If their goal was to stop people from shitting on it they should have shown better content in the first place.
they fucked up the PR for sure but noone could expect people will make such a flaming blind hatetrain to the game based on the stupidest shit.

that probably won't happen though. its would cool if it did. the game needs at least 30 base characters that don't require payment.

to be fair they shouldn't have released a demo that looks like crap when there and was an old build. they had a perfectly function build that was better then the story demo playable else where at the same time where the least amount of people could play it.

>somewhat fix
>implying

If they are showing footage to the public, they are asking to get judged. That's pretty much the point of releasing early footage. No company is dumb enough to show early gameplay and expect people to not draw conclusions. I dont know why you would expect different.

They game looks graphically sparse and i hold no reservations saying so. A series that usually looks so visually stylish has no business looking as base as it does. Besides, i don't actually care that much about that part anyway.

As it currently stands the roster is far too sparse and safe for my taste. Add to that the fact that they are telling us about dlc characters before the launch roster isnt even confirmed yet is really suspicious.

If the game turns out to be good then i will be glad and play it. With Capcom's recent track record with SF5 i really doubt it though.

>Whoa, an awfully done alpha build with lame models, a stilted story mode, and way too upscaled damage, who would have thought people would be cynical about it afterso many things Capcom fucked up?
I think you're just stupid and probably should never get into PR.

They better fucking do something to get people hyped up again.

I'm not worried about all of that. I'm worried about the boring UI. I have never seen such a boring character select screen in a Capcom game before this. It looks like it's trying to 'look' esports.

>ui
realy

UI is important

Yeah really. The gameplay is fine as far as I can tell but the UI is just bad. The only other Marvel game with a bad UI is MvC3 vanilla.

The game doesn't have enough time for that, such and overhaul would take much more than a few months. In fact the build we are seeing now will have to be near final. Most complaints they won't have time to address.

At best more characters than we thought are there and just haven't been revealed.

It's UMVC3.3 with less characters and shittier graphics. And of course more characters will be coming; for five bucks a pop

>X-Men

It's literally not going to happen so why even ponder such a dumb question?

>The game doesn't have enough time for that
yes it does, since the demo build was already 4 months outdated the time they were made available

that means they still had more than a half year of development since then. The CEO build already looks noticably better even tho it's only 1 month less old

That is a meme that no official outlet has confirmed to be true

Yeah, its fun to dream. When is EVO, anyway?

>MvC3 looked worse tthan SF4

MvC3 looked better than SF4, though.

>The CEO build already looks noticably better even tho it's only 1 month less old
That wasn't a new build created in a month, that was the same build they had at e3 which was different than the story demo.

The effects yeah, but the models in SF4 had more detail and expressions

a few days

no will care much about menus or hud looking bad as long since it's at least it's clear. plus the only good thing the ui did in the previous games was the character select. so ye being more worried about the ui over the characters looking like trash doesn't make sense to me.

Ugh, its gonna be a bloodbath.

It'll be fine.

>Crapcom fucked up a Street Fighter game
>They won't fuck up an MvC game

man

you drones are hilarious

Come on man, this thing is a mess. Weird or terrible models, blatant shilling for the movies, Perlmutter's ban resulting in a terrible roster (made worse with idiotic PR statements), DLC out the ass...

The only way it MIGHT be enjoyable is if they release a super special final ultimate edition with all the DLC and tweaks. Until then, why bother?

I'm tired of the Same old Capcom characters. I wanna see characters like Asura, a Hunter, Jin, etc.

>making your game a 2v2 so you don't have to have a substantial roster

The biggest issue with SFV is that it isn't fun to play.
MvC:I is fun to play

>No Punisher
>No Sentry

T R A S H picture.

What can Punisher do that Deadpool can't?

He can have more than 10 decent comics.

even woolie was shiting on it. face it lads. its over

I dont know duide. What the fuck can phoenix wright and chuck greene do that anybody else on the roster cant?

I'm watching his video now. He seems to love the gameplay but dislike the graphics and roster picks, like everyone else.

Ummmmmm why is Thor male?

why wouldn't he be

They might have used Whor instead.

>This much dreaming.

What can Deadpool do that Gwenpool can't?

I wouldn't really because I was going to be one of those who'd buy the game once all the DLC comes out. Which would still be the case even with this scenario.

It'd shut up a lot of mouths tho, that's for certain. But it's one of those cases where people wouldn't mind being BTFO'd.

Because Thor is cooler than Thot.

Not flop

Be adorable.

Phoenix Wright has gag lawyer moves, so that makes him unique.
Chuck Greene. . . Nothing really if Frank is in

>th-they made it look shit on purpose!

Why do people think companies do this? When was the last time a company made their game look like absolute shit at first sight just so they could "surprise" people later?

Where the fuck are Deadpool and Spidey anyway? Surely Marvel can't be stupid enough to leave THEM out.

Spidey is on the leak list as well as Venom
Deadpool is an X-Men character, so he will probably be DLC down the line

He's not saying that they made it look bad on purpose, he's saying that it'll be improved before release. He has unrealistic expectations.

Capcom really is in a bad position, if they delay the game, they'll probably have to release closer to Dragon Ball Fighter Z but if they don't, it'll look bad

It's pretty much confirmed at this point that Ryce's big leak was either incomplete or just an amazingly lucky guess, since Zero, who was not on the list, was at E3, and Dormammu is on one of the variant issues they're putting out, who was also not on the list.

And don't worry about spider-man not being on the cover of a Spider-man book, there's two other spidey books that are also getting variants

>they made it look shit on purpose!
No they didn't. The people who played the Versus Demo at E3 talked about how much better the Versus Demo looked than the Story Demo. The Story Demo was a much older build, it was stupid of them to show off that shoddy looking version to the public.

Spidey was playable at E3.

What a fucking normie marvel selection. Like if it was made by someone who was struggling to think of more characters.

how is that

It's not getting fixed. This is straight from the head of Capcom, telling people not to expect any real improvements. The game has to wrap in like 2 weeks and then it will begin preparations for shipping to stores. There is no time left to fix anything, but they can "diminish the effects" of the fuckup, mainly

>"It's interesting to see the feedback on that kind of stuff," Evans told GameSpot. "Not to say that the fans are wrong or nitpicking stuff like that. That feedback is coming and we're hearing that feedback and we're taking it in stride and figuring out how we can improve on things.

>"That said, the game comes out in three months so there's gonna be things that we can do in that time remaining and things that we can't do. When it comes to the overall look of the game, I feel like when people get it in their hands and they see it in motion, they really get what we're trying to do with the cinematic look."

>Evans goes on to say that the stages play a large role in making the characters pop. XGARD was the first backdrop shown off for the game, and due to this particular battleground being fairly dark and having muted lighting, it doesn't really show off the game's colors or characters very well.

>"I think as we show more stages, people will be impressed by the variety, with the look of the game and how the characters pop off it," Evans explained.

>w-why didn't you include my shit nobody characters, where's quasar

This post is wrong on both points.

Dormammu was in the leak. Zero was not, but he said "one other Capcom character that I don't know".

>in the beginning they show new shit like Capt Marvel and X
>later show characters we already saw from the last game
>actual new characters will be behind DLC
>putting one of the main villains of the story as DLC
Its over Capbros...
ITS JUST NOT FAIR

>Spidey was playable at E3
Source?
It's kinda weird that Drake Bell will inevitably voice Spiderman in this game

This is Capcom we are talking about. I already learned my lesson with SFV. They are not gonna fix or change shit.

>there is no time to fix
you forget the part where the story demo and even the VS demo was already almost 4 months old when they were showed and we haven't seen the improvement since then. Overall they had more than a half year to improve so there is a nice chance that we will see some improvements at the EVO build.

If it were that old and that easy to fix, we wouldn't have this statement:

>"That said, the game comes out in three months so there's gonna be things that we can do in that time remaining and things that we can't do. When it comes to the overall look of the game, I feel like when people get it in their hands and they see it in motion, they really get what we're trying to do with the cinematic look."

The ugly realistic artstyle is intentional, so that's not being changed. if they thought it was okay to release a 4 month old, hideous build of the game 3 months before release, that's not the fault of the consumer for being worried nothing will improve. And their statements prove they're scrambling, they aren't being smug or confident like they know it's been fixed since then. It isn't GETTING fixed, the head of capcom himself is saying they only have 3 months left to improve it from what we've seen and to keep our expectations realistic, there would be no need for him to say that if he knew in reality the final product was looking better.

also it barely even merits reiterating, but, this kind of back and forth is exactly, EXACTLY, what SFV defenders were doing pre-release. They said it would look better than the beta! Spoilers: It fucking didn't.

Ya know, maybe not. Iron Man has a new VA, but this brought back his old one from 3.

Because nu/v/ is soo shit that they accept reddit posts as truth if it is something to help their shitposting

they did fix some of the faces though.

i don't even know what the before and after is supposed to be here. left is before? right is after? on the left i see the hair sitting properly and on the right it's clipping through her shoulders

the face looks the same in both pics

>if they thought it was okay to release a 4 month old, hideous build of the game 3 months before release, that's not the fault of the consumer for being worried nothing will improve.
I'm pretty sure they didn't expected this much of a backlash. KoF14 also got some negativity for looking bad but nothing on the level of MvCI even tho this game looks much better in motion.

>also it barely even merits reiterating, but, this kind of back and forth is exactly, EXACTLY, what SFV defenders were doing pre-release. They said it would look better than the beta! Spoilers: It fucking didn't.
you are pulling things out of your ass. Noone had any serious problem about SFV's look before release, and the few things people complained about then (like Cammy's face) was even changed.
For visuals even now people are only complaining about little shit like Ken's loading screen expression or Ibuki's winning screen expression

Get your eyes checked. But clipping is still a huge problem in SFV

>Noone had any serious problem about SFV's look before release
Okay mister history revisionist. not reading anything else you have to say if you are gonna try to rewrite history.

>b-but KOFXIV
lol

everyone who actually cared about SNK or KOF knew why it looked like that, because snk were dragging themselves out of the tar pits of pachinko hell. it was amazing the game played as well as it did considering they were starting from basically nothing.

Capcom doesn't have that excuse, they've never had any good excuse, except that money and marketing and sponsorships matter more to them than their players or consumers.

SFV looked like shit in beta with clipping everywhere, ugly proportions, and everyone said "oh, it's just an old build! it's just a beta! the final version will OBVIOUSLY fix these issues!" and then it didn't, it was exactly the fucking same.

now people are repeating the exact same tripe about MVCI, that it's an old build, it's just a beta, it'll magically look better somehow at launch

it's not getting fixed. even if they fixed every single ugly face, it won't fix the atrocious story cutscenes, the horrible dialogue, the further pushes toward total casualization (retard controls are default for the demo to make stupid people feel good at the game, isn't that cute of you capcom)

my eyes are fine. you didn't give me any details on what's supposed to look different. there are sharper lines around her eyebrows? the lighting is different? it doesn't help one is a fucking camera phone shot and one isn't

Her eyes, lips, face shape, and nose have all been changed in the right

>Ugly proportions
That is just the SF artstyle. It's constant in every game in the series

Nnnnno that's only SF4 and 5.

the face clearly looks better and both have hair clipping.

changing the lighting can fix ibuki's face but i duno how difficult or easy that is.
the clipping and a couple of face are the only visual problems sfv has

Then you are blind.
There's literally a guide for Capcom's proportions that they have been using since SF2.
It's why everyone has big hands,feet, and lats.

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I like how you conveniently forget that KOF XIV has autocombos as well
What is with the double standards?

TvC is way slower than MvCI and the slowest "Marvel-like" to date.

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That's my point, if they're going to make it slow just don't make it Marvel

No MvCI is way faster than TvC. They aren't even on the same level, at all.

It's the same speed as MvC3 pretty much aside from the lack of wavedashing

>SFV looked like shit in beta with clipping everywhere, ugly proportions, and everyone said "oh, it's just an old build! it's just a beta! the final version will OBVIOUSLY fix these issues!" and then it didn't, it was exactly the fucking same.
as I said you are pulling shit out of your ass. These are all things people started complaining about after release. Also the people who complained about the "ugly proportions" are the kind of people who didn't even played SF games before. The characters always had "gorilla hands" because it's a good visual game design, not because the modellers seriously thought that's how a realistic human looks like.

>it's okay for KoF to look ugly because SNK didn't had enough money
you seriously don't realise that that's the exact fucking case with Capcom? Ono even said that they didn't had money for SFV before Sony started funding the project. They are releasing 4 times less games these years than they did 5-10 years ago. You have disgusting double standards when it comes to justify your hatered againts Capcom.

You do realize artists still use 70+ year old books to study right?

outta here capcbros

any more of these?

You do realize that this is art to facilitate in game design, right?

this art isn't realistic anatomy tho, it's intentionally heavily stylized,

yeah and Nintendo still follows the Super Mario Bros philosophy. Pokemon and Dragon Quest hasn't changed much either

rkappa are activists so theyll just find something else to talk about. that said i think youre wrong about the huge roster. capcom isnt that smart or passionate right now.