TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT

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>PRYO UPDATE
NEVER EVER

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>there are people who didnt drop tf2 years ago.

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>there are people who didnt drop dead years ago

>1 year since Heavy vs Pyro started
>still jack shit

MR KRABS HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN

POAST LOADOUTS

373 DAYS
GIVE IT UP FOR 373 DAYS SINCE A MAJOR UPDATE

kek

s. Professional Killstreak Scorch Shot Kit (Villainous Violet / Cerebral Discharge)

Hey guys, remember the Spy vs Engineer update? Remember how it never happened?

I'm wearing currency and there's shitting fuck that you can do to stop me

>there are people who died waiting for this update

What if afterburn applied marked for death for the duration of the burning?

People complain about metal inflation but it's not all bad, buying a single key these days gives you enough refined to outfit every class with 3 decent cosmetics and stranges.

afterburn will never, ever, be a threat again

Not unless it somehow debuffs the afflicted person in a way they can't ignore.

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

i stopped playign this 5 years ago

is it good?

It's the same thing plus a few weapons and minus a few players.

there's still water everywhere and every class has an extinguishing item ready to be deployed the second any remotely competent pyro starts to pose a threat

> tfw 3rd competitive game EVER because takes ages to find so I never bother
> tfw facing an aimbotting sniper who hits you the moment you peek around a corner, so it must be a clickbot too
> even fucks up a guy who tries invis
> literally entire server reports the nigger
> spend 15 minutes holding despite the disadvantage
> lose
> haxxorfag: ggez

What kind of self affirmation do these niggers lack that they go online and ruin other people's experience? Would they enjoy a dedicated cheaters' server?

>valve's matchmaking will gladly put me in a match where my team is losing on last point and getting steamrolled
>but it can't fill a match with only 8 players on it

holy shit, 30.11 Ref for a key?!

i remember it being 1.66, then saying i remember it being 1.66 when it got to 7.66 ref...
crazy

they're probably aiming for the 10th anniversary
note: they will miss and it will be out in December

Why do they have such a hard on for countering afterburn anyway?

>9 out of 10 of my last games had hackers in them
>5 of those games their teams wouldn't kick them
I fucking hate this community

Stout Shako for 2 that one engineer webm

What could Valve realistically do to fix Heavy?

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>there are people

Give him a rocket launcher.

AAAAAAAAAAA

unfuck his unlocks, toy with revving mechanics a bit if that doesn't cut it
throwvich genocide when

>No collector's weapons
>No strange bird-man of aberdeen
Yeah ok, whatever you say Irish man.

While the game isn't a complete piece of shit, it has critical balance issues. The game was already wounded and MYM salted it, and it's begun to fester. Hopefully the pyro update (and it won't be named that since there was one in 2008) will turn the game in the right direction and fix:
> shortstop
>pbpp
>bison
>brass beast
point being, everything is out of balance and needs to be reoriented.

Where do people go and trade for keys? I have played for a couple years but never bothered trading.

>While the game isn't a complete piece of shit,
laffin
>it has critical balance issues.
one of many problems, valve are goddamn retards and even stock kits have serious issues

oh and you're also an idiot to think the pyro update will do anything to help

>there are people ITT unironically trying to convince people that this game is shit when it is objectively a masterpiece

What's the appeal of in-game dress up in a first person shooter? Especially when you basically have to pay for it.

t. investor

>DROP DEAD!
youtube.com/watch?v=di3OozAf6y0

autism
rakes in more money than integrity so valve butchered the game for it

scrap.tf is what i use

>trading
congrats on becoming part of the problem

once the rampup penalty is removed heavy will be in a good spot. the problem with heavy isn't that he's not effective he's just boring as hell to play. he needs new weapons that are actually fun to use and don't suck.

His fundamental mechanics are what's boring. He can't move and shoot at the same time (at least, not to any degree that matters). Most of your time is spent waddling to the spot your team already reached 2 minutes ago without you. Not fun in comparison to Scout or Soldier.

The problem is Heavy by design is not very skillful or "fun".

He is a walking tank that has less movement options than 90% of the classes and their unlocks. The Sandvhich gives him an alternative role that can change up how he plays slightly, but at the end of the day he is still a defence power house who can be effective at pushing if he has healing. I can't think of a way to make him fun in the same way Soldier or even Spy is fun.

>he needs new weapons that are actually fun to use and don't suck.
stock/sandvich/gru is already stupidly fucking good, he only falls out of use because they take all the tactical depth out of the class and he's still too slow for 6s

Same reason people dress up in physical reality: because they like looking good and like showing off how much cash they can afford to spend on aesthetic shit.

But it's a video game, you don't exactly operate in the same realm of social expectation and hierarchy.

the ramp up could be his saving grace though.
Instead of a ramp up, just make his minigun fire faster over time. That way, the longer you are exposed to a heavy, the more dangerous it becomes.

Heavy doesn't need any sort of nerf regarding his damage output AT ALL. It's already severely limited by range and the heavy's own speed. If you just got fucked by an ambush heavy, it's your own damn fault. Heavy is a weak enough class without such things

UPDATE WHEN

>heavy is weak
not agreeing with the other retard, but what dimension are you living in

The one where players aren't total retards and can play the game properly.

Would a Super Nailgun type weapon for Heavy be too OP? It's not fair that the Syringe Gun is the only Nailgun in the game. It's a fun weapon.

then account for competent heavies as well
300 base health and a 300+ dps hitscan weapon is not to be taken lightly, even disregarding the rest of the kit and the inevitable medic

TONIGHT

>implying
Fancy hats will get you respected in the match
And maybe 2 or 3 Medics

No matter how competent the Heavy player is, the basic limitations of the class limit his ultimate effectiveness in the fight. Same boat as Pyro. Ask any high level Pyro or Heavy main this, and that's the answer they'd give you. Heavy's existence is invalidated by Sniper. No other class in the game is hard countered as much as this, not even Spy since Spycicle and DR exist. In an organized match where you know that the enemy team is running Sniper, the official heavy strat is "don't move forward until the sniper is dead." Even after this, Heavy is just target practice for Demos to practice pill aiming with and soldiers to practice leading rockets. Both of these classes can launch their projectiles from outside the hyper-lethal zone of Heavy's minigun and because Heavy can't really move while shooting, he can't keep up the offensive while sparing his own life. In terms of being the core element of a push, Demo does everything he does but better. In terms of holding a perimeter, an Engineer's sentry gun has better damage, accuracy, and range, with Heavy only really being superior in the rare case that there's not enough time to build a level 3. He's really only good at denying bombers, but Scout can also do that job too to practically the same effectiveness, and Scout can do way more stuff on top of that too.

Come up with those shitty weapon ideas.

The sapper slapper
>Wrench
>+Destroys sappers in one hit
>+Damages the spy that used the sapper
>- -10% building repair per metal
>No random critical hits

>I can't think of a way to make him fun in the same way Soldier or even Spy is fun.
I kinda want to see the fat scout loadout get some buffs. Buff his shotguns and move them to his primary slot, buff his base speed when using them.

>stock/sandvich/gru is already stupidly fucking good
Didn't say they weren't effective they're just boring as fuck.

What the fuck is up the new party van? I come back after a week and the password's gone and the server's full of newfags.

What heavy really needs is better mobility (or at least better tools for disengaging from fights), sustainability beyond relying on Medics/Sandvich, and some sort of combat niche, even if it's just "tank guy"

They should give heavy a riot sheild type primary replacement for playing shotgun heavy

>Riot shield

Could actually work. It goes well with his role as a tank/defence and able to help his team out.

That's a pretty good idea, actually

What I think might work is to give heavy some innate damage resistance when fully spun up (in exchange for slower spin up speed) and the ability to be healed from ammo boxes in exchange for less ammo (Like, a medium box gives 25HP and 75 ammo instead of giving 100 ammo)

>mfw I'm one of them

every fucking thread

OP made a thread and said the password was "the usual" so someone asked what the password was so he called them a "newfag". Everyone in the thread told him to quit being a retard and just post the password in the OP next time so he threw an autisitc shitfit. By the end of it he decided to pull a move out of the Dobson playbook and said "WELL HOW ABOUT I JUST TAKE OFF THE FUCKING PASSWORD THEN IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO TELL IT TO EVERYONE" and left

Overtrash already overdid shields (its not a fun mechanic)

IT'S ___ FUCKING FAIR
Seriously the DR should NEVER have gotten ammo recharge

I'll never stop laughing at this webm.

Damn, just as Party Van was becoming alive again.

They are only unfun in overwatch because the whole game is built around them

Seriously what the fuck

I don't think thats what makes it unfair though. The thing thats actually annoying about the DR is that regardless of if someone is actually using it or not, if you kill a spy you immedietly have to sweep the area just in case they were using it. Which isn't fixable.

>Can't think of a good name for my RL

ech

I've got some ideas for the conch but nothing great

I still don't think a tf2 team hiding behind a riot shield on the payload woukd be a fun experience

The All American Burger launcher
>Rocket Launcher
>On hit on allies: Restores 50 health (Direct), 10 health (Splash)
>1 sec slow on enemies hit
>-25% clip size
>10% slower projectile

Additionally, this damage resistance would be ignored by backstabs, and afterburn, and would only apply to Heavy's innate health (meaning the defense doesn't stack with overheal)

I really didn't envision it being that big

To be fair, you do have to be a massive newfag to not know about "rage" or potentially "vidya". Sperging out might have been a bit much though.

This 5 says you will name it "benis for every occasion"

you don't think it's a little overboard to waste money on fancy hats just so some faggots will suck your dick in a video games?

Hey Sup Forums,
yore
ugleh

nah I thought of something

Or you can just put the password in the OP. That's "the usual".

>using GRU
what madman uses that over the eviction notice

Maybe
But if it's your favorite game, and if it's your money, then you can spend it however you want it

Although spending amounts like 100$ is rather silly I admit

I'm fine with ammo recharge but fire immunity is dumb.

You're right. The vidya one is even worse.

Having no cosmetics is a sign of being new. Of being a casual. Of being bad. Of being F2P. Drowning yourself in cosmetics shows that you're worth something, at least to the twisted view of the community.

Are there any Sup Forums servers left?

No

Why are people so fucking bad at this game?

TF2 is a game where you don't need to be a good player to be good at. There's class meant for bad players like engie and medic where they just need to do one thing and they're be good enough.

I really don't get it. You know how some of them even struggle with WASD.