Who was in the wrong here?

Who was in the wrong here?

Marche the brother crippler.

The nigga who was too much of a wimp to deal with reality

Based Marche cripplefucks BTFO

The autist who literally started a gang war and put a bounty on his friend's head to keep his gay fantasy world alive

I hope you wake up tomorrow and can't move your legs.

FUCK
JUDGES

>send mewt back
>stay behind in ivalice and become judgemaster
what did marche mean by this?

He wanted all the power and women for himself.

I don't think Marche was wrong, but I loved how his clan backs him up with his cause to end Ivalice.

Face reality like a man, Mewt. Stop being a bitch

oh god is that really how it ends? I never beat it.

he wanted to fug ALL the Vieras

T R I C K E D

Corrupt judges were running wild under Mewt's administration. Mewt started shit, Marche finished it

A2 was better

It was but it lacked an evil protagonist that wants to destroy a world simply because he didn't "feel" like it was real.

Holy shit this just reminded me I still haven't finished this game. It's been like 20 years.

Yeah, but it had a much worse story. But hey, at least there is no 'don't hit this race cards', and the last enemy in the battle is that race.

Marche.
I have no idea how some people on Sup Forums can even defend his actions.
Marche was the villain.

Is that how it ended?
That guy is a riot

>check map before starting
>use your card to cancel out bullshit cards
fucking strategy!

Marche was an isekai MC ahead of his time. We need him now more than ever.

>no anti laws

Because living in a dream world is for pussies?

This ffta anime when?
Based marche needs to tell those otaku scum how it is.

Great, you can be my toilet then.

>Yeah, but it had a much worse story.
For the main quest story, yes.
The sidequest stories however were better. Duelhorn, Frimelda's whole thing, etc.

Plus it's the only Ivalice game where Vaan and Panelo are actually not a pile of suck.

so is playing anime games

>People make these threads and STILL don't know the dream world was draining the life of people in the real world.

Marche literally saved the world.

He didn't know that though did he? He just saw how nice everything had become and thought actually it would be better if he destroyed it all and made things shittier again.

Accidentally saving the world doesn't make him a good person.

>Who was in the wrong here?

You, for using filters.

Fuck that, if you didn't have a null card for certain rules (the race one was really rare) you have to eat the punishment.

>There are "people" in these threads that still insist on making up shit in order to defend Marche's selfish, genocidal decisions
Marche literally destroyed a world just because he felt like it.

>A world where some fuckstick on an ostrich can arrest you because attacking monsters is illegal that day
>nice
He did the right thing torching that mockery of ivalice

me too

The Dream world was real too you retard.
Even if it was not, Marche didn't know that the world drained their life.

The world continues to exist after the ending, though. Marche and his friends can return to it at will. There's even some content that opens up after the story is cleared.

>Game explicitly tells you the world is fake
>People still arguing about Marche shutting down a fake world

truly the most thought provoking FF

>fake world
You didn't play the game, did you?

Thought provoking in the sense of why did a Nintendo game make me play as an evil sociopathic monster literally destroying the dreams of his down trodden friends for no actual reason.

i never finished this game, but man is he a dick lawfag

Have you? Because it sounds like you're pretending the game didn't say that

living in a fantasy world ain't healthy

>tfw no Marche optional superboss in FFXII
>Be Vann and the rest of the party wandering through Rabanastre
>hear screaming and people running away from something
>investigate
>see Marche slaughtering citizens and guards left and right with the pizza cutter laughing like a madman
>confront him
>"YOU'RE NOT FUCKING REEAAAAL"
>battle starts

It was basically the Matrix. The ending even plays out the same where the Matrix still exists, but now people are free to leave.

Marche

I want to live in Ivalice

better mc than muh sky pirate boy

Who was in the wrong here?

im still hoping he makes it into dissidia as a secret agent of chaos

something something about ignorance and bliss

nigga are you stupid or something? I played through the entire game my first go round without even knowing how to use anti-laws and shit. What did I do? I fucking progressed time on the map so it'd change to a set of laws that wouldn't fuck me over. Is it really that hard to play around laws?

You would have to have not played the game or not remember the story much at all to think Marche was in the wrong.

>le world is fake, face reality like a man
Nigga, if I can die in it, it's real as can be. If "dream world" has more benefits. If you skip out on it because "muh morals", you deserve to be used like the tool you are until you die.
He was clearly checked in this though. He doesn't have a logical argument, just screaming like a madman. Sup Forums are big hypocrites if they agree with his arguments, then hate on Anita or Jack Thompson types.

>It was basically the Matrix. The ending even plays out the same where the Matrix still exists, but now people are free to leave.
Ill need the sauce of that.
For...science reasons.

Well too bad. You're going back to the "real" world.

>Sup Forums are big hypocrites if they agree with his arguments, then hate on Anita or Jack Thompson types.
nigga what

Marche is right, what are you going to do when things go wrong in that world are you going to keep running?
Rapes, thievery are just some of the daily occurrences.
Your family is all different they have different memories and know a different you and are a different version of your family.

The nightmares if you go by the manga where Link tries to offer a peaceful solution in which he doesn't wake up the Wind Fish so long as they stop trying to start shit.

Living in a literal fantasy world has nothing at all to do with health. The aesop falls flat if you take it seriously for the same reason people can see Marche as villain. It's a shitty story in a game for children.

If you get unlucky with random encounters, or fight a story battle with bullshit rules, then it depends.
>No
the rules could be ignored because they don't effect you (don't use items), or you had a null card to say fuck you to the rules
>Yes
The rules fucked you in a major way (don't use skills, or magic) and you didn't have a null card to say fuck the rules.

Early on, rules block nothing, and can be ignored, but the later on in the game you get, they start getting much more harder to just ignore as there are more of them each time, and they start hitting the more important stuff. Also late game story battles come with their own rules that's completely different from the world map rules. So yes you need to play around the rules.

>nigga
It's nigger you niggers.

This post reads as though you were going to reply to the user you greentexted, but then got so distracted by cropped porn you forgot to remove the greentext.

I find it odd people would not be creeped out by waking up in a world that tries to satisfy your deepest desires while horrible things happen just below the surface and sometimes right in plain sight.

Honestly it is like old stories where someone slowly realizes they are trapped in hell.

I actually liked the rule system.
It could fuck up a good portion of your team but it rewarded levelling up a diverse array of characters and play differently.
yep. probably have highlighted something while reading and then the porn distracted me.
Still no sauce tho.
SAD!

Its fun how"adults"(aka 15yo pretending to be grownups)fail to even understand what was literally the entire point of the game.
Crippleboy was in thew rong, because the morale of the game is that escaping from your problems and living only in your fantasies(a big problem in Japan, just look at fucking hikikomoris)is wrong and you have to grow up and face your problems.

Its not philosophical or deep at all, that literally all the game says.

>I find it odd people would not be creeped out by waking up in a world that tries to satisfy your deepest desires while horrible things happen just below the surface and sometimes right in plain sight.
Becuase that sounds just like real life, only you have actual powers to do what you like.

Self-righteous moralfags going on a crusade against vidya fantasy for how "corrupt" or "unhealthy" it is. No logical arguments for their stances, just moralizing. Don't care what others think, they're too stupid to understand you're doing it for their own good.

Sup Forums's contrarians kiss Marche's ass, but then hate on Anita or Thompson for acting the same way. Apparently it's only okay when your fantasy video game tells you what's what, not the real people who threaten your comfort zones.

>not bangaa

That's reality, you're either ignorant, in denial of, or choose to ignore all the terrible shit in the world. You're just settling for a better one to yourself.

This world does not actively try to satisfy your desires for you, you have to seek them out yourself.
Also you have the power to do what you like in this world as well.

>MUH HEADCANON
>no source
Stop spreading rumors without sources

It's a literal fake world that everyone is forcefully dragged into whether they wanted to be in it or not and Marche figured something was off. How is that even slightly the same thing?

Marche did nothing wrong

>anno domini 2010+7
>mewt apologists still exist

People should stop making Reality so fucking difficult to cope with then.

Marche was wrong. The game has post game content. So his discurse is fake as fuck.

Marche was clearly a child, stop judging him like a big boi.

>M*rche contrarians are STILL trying to justify his actions
>implying what he did was even remotely ethical
I want M*rche apologists to leave.

Wasn't the fantasy world self destructing?

Judges are cancer
Based Marche

Wasn't it because Marche was fucking shit up?

Not everyone was reborn into a humanoid. Imagine waking up as a monster and suddenly you're being hunted because someone's on a quest to slay you for no reason other than to pick herbs that you happen to live by. Marche did the right thing by turning things back.

I wouldn't care because I have no memory of my past self and just want to punch things.

There is this little shit hole where everyone is dragged into, and it's called real life. If you could make a fantasy reality, wouldn't you do it?

Imagine being a member of that alternate world and then just fucking dying because someone thinks you aren't real.

>enemies hit marche with weapon or fist
>*TING*
>they eat 600+ damage

I had a nightmare where Marche was hunting me down in the real world. I couldn't understand why it was so terrifying to me until days later. I realized that he wanted to take me back to an even shittier reality. The thought of it still chills me.

but's escapism, can't you see it!?

I'm not dumping everyone into dreamworld because I can't deal with life

>This world is illusion. You can hold it in your hand and still be holding nothing.

So yeah, not real

*angrily projects and acts like a dick*

Why were Viera so fucking broken in ffta? No other race even comes close to the OP bullshittery that assassin/snipers or redmage/summoner can pull off

Everyone we speak to in the game that was from St Ivalice remembered their past selves, so why wouldn't the monster?

Doesn't matter. It's like disabling a robot that gained sentience. Still not human.

It's not the viera itself, it's the Red Mage and Assassin classes.

>Assassin
>Concentrate from Archer
>Last Breath 70/80/90 from front/side/back

Red Mage
>Double Cast
>Summons
>shit all over everything

Imagine if you were normal, user.

Marche did nothing wrong.

It's all about moogles. Less powerful, but more faster clears.

the only thing broken on moogles is their dodge and gunner ultima

>creating and then killing sentient life is okay.

Don't you have an abortion appointment to get to?

As a whole noodles were the worst race alongside nu mou