Why were the character interactions in tf2 so good?

In overwatch alot of the reactions just feel bone dry and don't have much comedic value.

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Because it played off their stereotypes in a comical way in tf2. Can't make fun of fat people, black Scottish cyclopses, franchies and virgins in current year.

They went too safe on them to avoid hurt feelings. Think about Lucio and Dva's interaction. Like 3 more seconds of it and they'd probably start sucking one-another off. vs TF2's where most of them are downright mean and hilarious

>Dominated! And I've been shaggin yer wife!
>Here's a touching story: once upon a time, you died. I lived happily ever after
>If you didn't want me to kill you, you shoulda said somethin!

because overwatch is the most inoffensive, sterile, design-by-comittee game in existence

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0:15 is my fav

REPEAT AFTER ME: MNUMNUMNUM, I'M DEAD.
HERE'S A SCHEMATIC FOR YA: MY ASS
HEYYY LOOK YA SHAPESHIFTED INTO A DEAD GUY!

The ones between solider and demo where they're still best friends but have to act like they hate eachother are the best.

Overshit will never have the venomous and stereotypical humor tf2 has because someone could get triggered over mean words
>repeat after me mhmm mhmm mhmm I'm dead!
>dominated ya pot bellied Lardass!
>You fight like a woman! AHAHAHAHAHA

>ooh, goch ya right in the ovary
This would of been crucified today.

>HERE'S SUMTHING YOU SHULDA BUILT
>A NOT DYIN MACHINE

Post TF2 insults
Spy, Scout and Sniper are the meanest ones by far
>you disgust me fat man
>well, off to visit your mother!
>you are such a bad DOCTOR! HAHAHAHA!
>the black Scottish Cyclops, now extinct!

>Well, off to visit your mother!
>Yippie-Kye-Yay, my dead, illiterate friend.
>You died as you lived: Morbidly Obese
>You live in a van!
The Spy had some great ones

>you died as you live, a virgin!
Spy really was a fucking cunt both gameplay and insults. Shame Current Year watch will never get to that level of insulting humor.

TF2 is positively edgy
To be funny, one must be at least a little bit edgy

SCOTLAND IS NOT A REAL COUNTRY, YOU ARE AN ENGLISHMEN IN A DRESS.
I JUST TORE YOU A NEW CHIMNEY, SMOKEY JOE!
YOU CANNOT BURN ME I AM ALREADY ABLAZE WITH PASSION, FOR WAR!!
YOU JUST GOT DOMINATED BRAZPLO BLIBBINS
YOU JUST GOT DOMINATED BULBO BUTTONS
YOU JUST GOT DOMINATED BILBO BAGGINS.

Ooohh there's a new little angel in heaven, IN HELL
Aaahhh there gonna find ya all DED in the alley, with CATS lickin at ya.
Ahm gonna be all over ya like SHINGLES.
Ahm gunta blast ya into thin GRUEL.

>I merely finished what your liver started

>TF2 was rated M, and targeted at older players.
>Overwatch is rated T, and designed for mainstream appeal.

Gee, I wonder why one had better humor. Go back to the gym Gabe, nobody fucking likes you anymore.l

>Nice hustle, tons of fun. Next time eat a salad.

Is this what we're doing now? We're valuing FPS games on which ones meme harder?

STARS AND STRIPES BEATS HAMMER AND SICKLE LOOK IT UP
YOU JUST GOT DOMINATED COMMIE!
Demoman's lines aren't the greatest really.

>may I borrow your earpiece? 'This is scout, rainbows make me cry! Over!'

>everything is a meme
xdd

>Oh, Soldier. who could they get to replace you? Oh right, ANYONE
>They can bury you in the tomb of an unskilled solider
Jesus christ, spy

>caring about what wacky lulz randum thing characters say in an FPS
you have to go back

Stop with the pol /r/donald false flagging, you meme-spewing dumb nigger. Enjoying character writing is not a meme.

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>you disgust me filthy jar man!
>kaboom indeed you drunken wretch
>here's what I have that you don't. A functioning liver, depth perception and a pulse!
>giddyup now, to hell!
>aww too bad this wasn't a PIE eating contest!
One thing Blizzard should have stolen from tf2 was the comedy. Cusion room safespace of a game is no fun at all.

Do people still play overwatch? Yikes

TF2 is a wholesome game even with the insults and gore in it.

>Heavy and Medic never got class domination lines

Medic could still be done, but Heavy's va can't really do the voice anymore. Compare MvM lines to the standard ones. Or poker night to old ones.

What kind of domination lines would the cast have against the Overwatch cast?

There's a lot of material for the Mercs to use considering the Overwatch cast all look like faggots.

Junkrat to Tracer

>Post and Parcel, Love!

The fact I immediately recognized that gif makes me very ashamed of myself.
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Is that suppose to be funny?

>"I think I'll take Sasha out for a steak dinner tonight. Whataya think about that?"
>"Hey, lard-fat, those hard arteries don't stop bullets, do they?"
>"Look at this: just caved in your skull, my Bat's still dry. No clumps of hair - nothin'."

If you were going for something Blizzard would realistically put in the game, you succeeded.

I don't get it.

TF2 is just very natural, the conversations aren't forced like they are in Overwatch.

TF2 interactions are cheeky bants you'd have with your mates, while Overwatch interactions are the type of shit you'd read in a roleplay group.

>Heavy killing Zarya
>Soldier killing Zarya
>Soldier killing Soldier
>Medic killing Mercy
>Engi killing Bastion/Orisa
>Literally anyone killing Reaper
I suddenly want this

>TF2 will never be as good as it was in 2009

Would anyone else watch a minute of Overwatch's characters getting internally destroyed by the TF2 characters and their domination quotes?

Savage

That's Blizzards "clean" safespace form of comedy. If it was written before loot crate Valve the venomous stereotypical humor insults would involve calling Tracer a boy or something.

This

Tf2 today is better in some areas and worse in others than it was in 2009

TF2 is on a fundamental level much worse on the basis of the changes they've made to servers, the server browser and trading alone.

S76 Kill Quotes if they were ever like TF2's.

Genji:
Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, kid. Even if it's a big one.
Maybe Ziegler will put you back together again.

McCree:
Giddy up.
That six shooter is even more old-fashioned than me.

Pharah:
Pull! Heh.
Maybe the apple does fall far from the tree.

Reaper:
You just never learn, do you?
Maybe you'll stay down this time.

S76:
You can copy the look, but you can't copy the skill.
That's more grey than I remember...

Tracer:
Even you can't outrun bullets, kid.
This is a battlefield, keep the jogging on a track.

Bastion:
Now this brings me back.
Another one for the scrap heap.

Hanzo:
Bows are for hunting, not war.
You're going to need more than overgrown lizards.

Junkrat:
Next time, try actually aiming.
Your aim's as bad as your posture.

Mei:
You're going to have do more than give me a cold.
Bring a helmet instead of a coat next time.

Torbjorn:
Get your toys off my battlefield.
And that's why you should do your own shooting.

Widowmaker:
Squashed.
It's not so easy when they shoot back, is it?

D.Va:
[grumble] Are they drafting from cribs these days?
This is war, kid, not a game.

Reinhardt:
I guess the armor and shield are for show then.
You had to retire some time.

Roadhog:
It's like shooting at the broad side of a barn.
Doubt you'd fit in the slaughterhouse.

Winston:
Stick to your chemistry sets, son.
Should've researched how to duck.

Zarya:
At ease, comrade.
Figures that those muscles are for show.

Lucio:
You kids these days listen to the worst music.
Dancing isn't going to dodge bullets, son.

Mercy:
I'd reevaluate your "do no harm" oath, doc.
Doubt even you could fix that, Ziegler.

Symmetra:
A lot of good that flashlight did you.
Don't worry, I made sure the bullet holes were evenly spaced.

Zenyatta:
Leave the balls at home next time. This is war, not a baseball game.
Sure don't build 'em like they used to.

valve writers had talent

>tfw they all left

what the fuck went so wrong

It's a reference to all of the terror attacks in London you cretin. The paki mayor said it's just "part and parcel of living in a big city".

UNATCO?

>all
There's still 2 writers on the TF team and multiple at valve as a whole

The entire TF2 cast is hugely entertaining in their own right. There isn't a single wet blanket or stick in the mud among them. Their universe is primarily a vehicle to deliver gags, and the personalities of the characters reflect that. It doesn't hurt that Valve had the best comedy writers in the entire industry working on the Orange Box games to lay the foundation.

The Overwatch cast, on the other hand, were genetically engineered in a lab and filtered through test groups and board meetings to appeal to as large a group of people as possible. That shit leaves you with sterile boring characters.

At this rate I'm surprised they aren't making everything of theirs except CSGO and single player games free, since crate keys bring in way more money than all their Goldsrc games combined

Cringe

I'M GONNA STICK ME THUMBS IN YER EYES AN' 'ANG ON TILL YER DEAD

Because most of Overwatch's characters are played completely straight rather than being satirical like TF2s. The ones that do have an element of parody to them (Reinhardt, Reaper, D.Va) coincidentally are the only entertaining ones.

is this supposed to show how lame overwatch writing is because if so good job

Bantz could offend the people overwatch characters are supposed to "represent". Could you imagine the fallout if something like McRee made a joke about pushing the frontier if he kills a Pharah wearing the totem costume?

CSGO only has a price to help keep out hackers. otherwise it definitely would be free.

""Cringe"" yourself off a building, autistic redditer

>Don't bring a knife to a gunfight, kid. Even if it's a big one.
I giggled.

>Winston
He already has some pretty good ones involving him attempting to fill in his shoes.
Could have used those.

SJW

I JUST BAGGED THE WORLD'S FATTEST MAN!
KEEP YABBIN THAT BIG MOUTH, WHILE IT'S STILL ATTACHED TO YOUR BLOODY NECK!
CLOAK YOUR WAY OUTTA THAT YA FILTHY SPOOK!
At ease! BAHAHAHA!

>FPS
>deep character writing
seriously, you have to go back

Tumblr fucking loves them and tumblrites have crossposted here since like 2010

Who's to say someone isn't offended by D.va not representing taekwondo?

This is so bad, but somehow it fits with nuBlizzard, so you nailed it.

I think that's the problem with OW, TF2 made 9 characters that pretty much stand on their own and have chemistry with the others.
OW characters were designed from the ground up to represent certain groups of people from around the world and reflect them in a positive light because they want everyont to be happy and not upset anyone, and by doing that they've succeeded in making a mostly bland roster of characters that have no real personality or character.

Not one of these are as fun as
>Yippie-Ki-Yay my dead illiterate friend
>you died as you lived, morbidly obese
>YOU LIVE ON A VAN! AHAHAHAHAHA!
>Nice hustle tons a fun, next time eat a salad.

OOH THEY'RE GOIN TO HAVE TO GLUE YOO BACK TOGETHER
IN HELL

>Totem Pharah kills McCree
>That was for Crazy Horse!
Can you imagine the Sup Forums bitching

>likes Overwatch
>cares about Overwatch '''characters'''
>calls other people autistic or redditors

Apart from the fact that OW is fuckin' pussy shit, TF2 has a much smaller roster and allows for more personal relationships between the cast of nine than the nearly triple that which Overwatch has.

Compare to the real knee-slappers from OW
>Mei: You're just a no-good bully. How can you even look at yourself in the mirror?
>Everything's coming up explodey!
>Oh, don’t mind me, I was just takin’ five. Definitely not thinkin' about blowin' somethin' up. No way! Eheh. Definitely not. ...Okay, come on, maybe just a little something?

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>tfw you can't undo the monetary support you gave to the industry cancer that is Overwatch

>DUDE, you'd get a closed casket at the ugly cemetery!
Fucking perfect

>No memorable one liners

well tumblr was offended by cop dva

Holy shit that's really bad. This is what happens when you aren't allowed to be mean and possibly trigger any millennial faggot.

I'm not claiming they're aiming for the tumblr crowd. I'm claiming they shied away gore and mean-spirited comedy in order to create a more mass-marketable universe with as many avenues for new characters to be added as possible.

tf2 has better VAs too. the game wasn't really funny except for when the characters started laughing when you do well and sometimes when scouts burned to death. Neither of those had much to do with the writing

>TF2 characters have like 15 minutes of speech each
>OW characters have 15 minutes of speech between the entire cast
>character interactions limited to "hey i heard of you" or "we share a storyline, [grr i hate you] / [hey how are things]" at the start of a round
How the fuck does anyone think this is acceptable? A game backed by a powerhouse like Blizzard shouldn't be deficient in any field than its decade-old predecessor to this fucking degree.

Are you implying TF2 was a niche game? Becuase that was pretty fucking mass market.

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that one always made me lose my shit
demo was fucking perfect

OW just sucks cause it doesnt commit to any kind of motif

>they're heroes
>but not really i guess, they're just normal
>look, they small talk just like normal people

thrilling stuff

>>Everything's coming up explodey!
are you shitting me?

numales are too autistic to comprehend banter

>Scout calling heavy fat
>Soldier mocking demo for being a cross dresser
It's 2017 valve!

>all these characters are bad!
>but wait, they're not really bad, just corrupted
>hey something's going to happen!
>oh no, it's just more backstory and the """plot""" hasn't moved an inch
Just do fucking something already for fuck's sake blizzard

No, Savage.

>only one black guy
*literal can't evening intensifies*

>Sombra: Sometimes I feel a little sick after using my Translocator, I'm sure you know what I mean, Tracer.
>Tracer: Won't be a problem if you just disappeared forever.
fucking destroyed

I could probably write a good one that goes for somebody, I don't know who, against Junkrat.
>Hey, looks like you and your country have something in common, you're both pieces of livid trash.

This.
The fact that something like Overwatch is not only allowed to exist but becomes the most successful product on the market influencing others to come makes my fucking blood boil.

>Symmetra:
>A lot of good that flashlight did you.
>Don't worry, I made sure the bullet holes were evenly spaced.

I know it was a different time, but jesus christ raimi...

U-...UNATCO?

Not even puppet mouths like Half-Life 1?