Why all the hate? I'm actually enjoying it so far

Why all the hate? I'm actually enjoying it so far

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keep playing

it starts really nice
and then it starts to feel rushed
and then it starts to feel really rushed
and then it just confuses you
and then it ends

Imagine if Nascar was all about making left turns around a track for 30 laps only for the last 60% of the race to be a straight away.

I enjoyed it for what it is, But it's blatantly unfinished and is basically an Assassin's Creed game with an FF theme.
Also how it deviated from the Versus XIII concept really hurts.

Do we even really know what versus was going to be? All we saw were meaningless teasers

the open world has potential but it was clearly rushed and not planned out properly, if you've played other western open world games this game feels like an early open world game from devs who are venturing into the unknown. A lot of things in this game felt like they didn't think things through. Had so much potential though.

Stuff about Versus we can be sure of
>The Invasion of Insomnia was supposed to be a playable part of the game
>Noctis and Stella were supposed to be rivals, not lovers
>King Regis and Noctis' past is touched upon more through playable flashback sequences
>It was originally planned to be a series of games, XV cut out a bunch of stuff and compressed the others into one title
>Roberto Ferrari, the character designer for XV, stated that a lot of his characters were cut from XV
>A major plot point of the game would be "the eyes theat see the light of expiring souls" which is absent in XV
>The game was supposed to have big explorable areas but not "open world"
>Versus had Kingdom Hearts-esque combat
>All party members were playable in the game, not just DLC

Only people who havnt played it/nomura fags/kh fags/ ff13 fags try to shitpost against it. Vast majority of people think it's great.

All we saw was glimpses of the invasion and a bit of roadtripping.

ive started playing earlier this week. cant decide if i want to level as a dps or as a white mage first

I love XV-kun. He was the source of entertainment in XV thread. XV-kun please come, I love you in totally gay way

There is only two characters Ferrari designed that got cut being Human umbra form and the short hair blonde Niflheim guy, and one of them is only half cut because umbra is still in the game and still mentioned to just "take the form of a dog". Technically Clarus but he still exists in the canon, just not in the game.

Stella was changed from that 2008 concept by 2011, by 2013 she was a completely different character to 2011 again now being his childhood friend. Also her "showdown" with Noctis was already cut from the game by 2011, and sometime between then and 2013 she was rewritten into being Noctis's childhood friend, even had the same kid stella design as kid Luna

And Nomura and Tabata both described Versus/ XV as not being fully open world.

That we know of*

Who is the person saying that in your pic related? Ferrari?

I don't know.

I forgot to mention Ferrari said he also designed Biggs and Wedge but the final game used different designs to the ones he did.

XV is a fucking joke. I finally got a chance to play XII and I'm legitimately blown away by how much better they handle everything. The war story, the politics, the context behind everything, the background for the world, the characters, the atmosphere, the presence of the military and how the world reacts to it, the charm... this is Final Fantasy. I went in with such low expectations afters years of people shitting on it, and just being depressed after XV and thinking SE couldn't make a good FF to save their life after X, but holy shit. what a ride it's been so far. THe pace is impeccable, seriously. It moves fast, but you're never lost. Thing are explained clearly to you--I'm genuinely surprised how much I've absorbed and understand about the world, considering all it's complexities and how I've never been familiar with Ivalice before. Seriously fuck XV. Playing XII now confirms how dogshit XV is. Also, the combat system is fun and I'm enjoying playing around with gambit system. At least here I can follow what's going on and encounters can be challenging.

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What politic? The final boss was just fucking Vayne. I see that coming when he first appear.

Man this desperate copy pasta.

XV is better than 12 in every single aspect.

And BotW did it worse, yet Sup Forums keeps stroking its dick.

>copy pasta

I literally just typed that out. You ACTUALLY sound desperate lmao. XV fanboys are truly fascinating.

Yeah, same with Ardyn dude.

Tell me best job for each character, quick. Just ONE for each character, I don't need two.

People need to get over Versus.
They only had concepts.

I mean I get it, I am disapointed that Metal Gear Rising turned out to be another Platinum Game instead of what they originally showed, but that shit doesn't matter since it was only a trailer.

BotW never came off to me feeling unpolished or unfinished in any part, it's just that the game is too limited when it comes to what you're actually doing.

Ocarina, Majora, Wind Waker, TP, even fucking SS had better character progression.

XII had a great setting. The world was interesting and fun to explore.

That's where the good parts end. And the asses.

You can't just say assess and not posting them user. Don't do this to me

I don't remember what they showed initially for MGR to be particularly good.

>the politics
what fucking politics the game is all about finding the nethicite

Are we playing the same game? There are NO politics.

>you have to pay additional money to complete the story
bwhahahaahahaha!

It's a no name french blogger who copied shit from a eurogamer article and then added his own "leak" at the end. Don't take anything in that screencap or the post too seriously

I'm at chapter 13. It suddenly went from a comfy albeit pretty mediocre open world game to a rushed mess that makes no sense. I can't wait for it to end so i can play something different. The leviathan boss has to be the worst value I've ever played in my 32 years of life. How is it possible to even produce something so bad?

Figured, if It was really Nomura's fault, SE won't let him direct FF7R and probably put him in eternal janitor mode.

it really doesnt though, as someone that played both.
ffxv pushes you through a bunch of rushed places in the second half of the game. a bunch of half-baked ideas and really confusing plot with a lot of unexplained things.
you may have disliked the game because it wasnt like wind waker or oot, but stop trying to put botw with ffxv and mgsv just because it took a more open world approach. botw actually successfully implemented the formula and it made sense, ffxv and mgsv are how you dont do it
character progression? please explain

After the water city, the game goes downhill and becomes even more linear than FFXIII

I haven't played it, but it seems like the Phantom Pain of Final Fantasies

Nomura is the only talent left in the company. He looked so exhausted at the KH panel. I can't even imagine the mental fortitude it takes to be in his position.

>reworded slightly from copypasya/average ff12 fag trying to shit on XV
You are literally braindead. Here's something I typed up earlier in response to one of you faggots.

Vayne wishes he was even half as competent of a villain as Ardyn, Vayne failed while Ardyn completely succeeded, they tried to lead you to think Vayne would do something interesting but nope he just does a 180 after trying to gain Rabanastre's trust and just destroys them instead. Meanwhile Ardyn had planned everything for ages and his plans all came to fruition because he was a master of manipulation, he had charisma and he succeeded fully in his plan.

Ashe literally does a 180 on her "revenge" plan just because of some random crap Vaan said, while Noctis exacts his revenge on Ardyn by the end and never stopped on his path towards becoming king and taking down those responsible. He gets his revenge and takes down the very person behind everything and the empire even when turned into Daemons still had Noctis killing them, as you also destroyed multiple military bases to mess them up too.

Not to mention the Judges in 12 are handled far worse in 12 than Niflheim empire is in XV.

Drace gets 2 scenes in 12, the second of which has her dead. Compare here to Aranea who not only gets multiple story scenes and an actual character arc, but a story boss battle, she joins the party as part of the story, and has even more scenes in ep Prompto too.

Zargabaath is a nothing character, he's about on par with Caligo.

Bergan is another nothing character, he spouts some stuff in a boss fight and that's it. I wouldn't even put him above Loqi.

Ghis is the only one besides Gabranth with an actual arc, and he has as much of one as Verstael by the end has with ep Prompto, which is as valid as using XII:ZA to judge FF12 with.

And Gabranth has as much of an arc to him as Ravus does.

cont

And I'm not saying all leaks are all fake, but people really shouldn't be taking their word seriously unless the leaker has a history of being right or it comes out later that what they said was true.
>probably put him in eternal janitor mode.
Or eternal mobile hell, like what they did with toriyama

And the difference is, we aren't getting any more story for Drace or Gabranth, while we are still going to get more story and gameplay stuff for Ravus and Aranea.

FFXV is about a roadtrip and it excels in showing that because the world actually feels like the type of stuff you'd see on a roadtrip, mixed with fantasy stuff like the monsters and dungeons and I can easily say it does it far better than 12 presents itself.

Then there is the whole party dynamic in XV which is leaps and bounds better than the party dynamic in 12, hell I don't even remember in Penelo and Fran even talked to each other. The comraderies and brotherhood on display in XV with intimate moments with the bros is far better developed than any party member thing in 12 is, and this is only strengthened by things you do in combat, at camp, the on tour quests, driving around and so on, which show their bonds physically through well done animation that makes them feel believable as friends. Never did at any point did FF12 party feel like they were friend.

12 doesn't do anything better in its story than XV, and XV has a far better ending and conclusion than the nothing ending you get at 12.

Kitase put him on 7R.

no shit you just bought it

Breath of the Wild has the most detailed quest tracker in the series to date but none of the quests matter because there are only 3 ways to progress Link, all of which are tedious.

The main progression is doing shrines, which increases Link's maximum health and stamina, as well as scales the world up spawning better enemies and weapons.

The secondary progression is grinding enemies for materials and upgrading armors with the Great Fairies, which dramatically reduces the damage you receive as well as sometimes gives you bonus effects.

And the last most tertiary progression is the Korok Seeds, which give you more inventory slots.

Almost none of this has anything to do with interacting with NPCs or doing the actual sidequests that the game tracks. Meaning most of those sidequests have garbage rewards and are a waste of time. You don't really feel much like a hero either because the NPCs are mostly so unnecessary there's no point in bothering with them.
Worse yet, the game's much lauded exploration falls apart when you realize there is no surprise around the corner because only 3 things matter.

Meanwhile in Ocarina, to progress your character, you have to do quests for NPCs to get things like bottles, capacity upgrades, new or optional items, and heart pieces, as well as looking for secrets and solving puzzles to get the heart pieces in the world. Not only is it much more varied in terms of what you're doing but it also builds a much better connection to the characters in the game.

Kitase is part of SE user. You didn't know that?

He sucks Nomura's dick that's the only reason why

Kitase is one of the head of SE. If XV was Nomura fault, you think he will let Nomura take charge?

I don't know why you guys like to associate mobile with failure. Mobile is huge in Japan, not to mention those games was pretty easy to made. Much better position than Nomura's stress now.

Because mobile games are shit.

I don't give a fuck about the profits or how easy or not stressful the work is, the product is shit 100% of the time.

>XV is better than 12 in every single aspect.
You litterally can't die in XV, and all you do in fights is hold the attack button, or press guard when the big button prompt shows up.
Half the story of XV happens off screen, so you have to find random pieces of paper to even know what happened.
The entire empire disappears halfway through the game in XV, the emperor gets turned into one forgettable monster, and the rest of his advisors just disappear.
The hunts in XV don't have any story to them.
You can only ever control one character in XV.
Magic got turned into limited-use grenades with no difference between the three elements beyond blast color.
XV needs DLC to make its story halfway acceptable.

Yeah, just because you think it was shit means nothing. Toriyama is in much better position than Nomura now.

Sorry brother. Have a shitty picture of Elza.

It looked way more interesting than another Platinum Game.

This was the reason the game disappointed me in the end.
Finished the main quest line and had zero incentive to do the side quests because I had no reason to do so.
I missed the feeling of getting the hook shot, boomerang, bombs and even songs from the previous Zelda games.
Instead you're given everything at the start.
When I finished the main quest line, all I could think in my head was, "that's really it?"
I felt I was playing half a game.
I would've loved to play through the game where you had to gather the Champions and have them at your side.

At least in XV there were story arcs and felt like it delivered its message. BotW had no story arcs aside from unplayable cutscenes that you gather by hauling your ass to some location.

You literallly can't die in 12, and all you do in fights is not press any buttons while the game plays itself.
Half of the story in 12 happens offscreen or doesn't even exist.
The judges in 12 have even less development than the Niflheim empire does in XV, one of the Judges who was featured heavily in promo material has TWO scenes in the entire game and she's dead in the second one, Zargabaath and Bergan just dissapear just as they are seen.
The hunts in 12 don't have any real story to them.
You have more control over that 1 character in XV than you do anything in 12, because you can manually attack, jump, dodge roll, weapon switch on the fly etc. While in 12 you just que up attacks MMO style while you can make it so it just plays itself.
Magic in XV got turned into useful spells that has you manage resources for because of how useful and destructive it is, there is elemental weakness and environmental effects on all spells.
XV story is already better than 12 with a far better villain, main party and ending. And DLC is making it all the better. 12 starts then the story just stops midway and has a nothing ending that no one cares about, and they aren't even trying to put in new story stuff to make it acceptable.

I tried out Brave Exvius because of all the insane marketing they've been doing (I guess they're marketing worked) and because the sprites looked cool. I also, thought that maybe the reason it's blowing up so much is because it's actually a good game and deviates from the typical mobile trends, but it's just kind of the same old shit you'd expect: messages swarming your screen, trying to entice you buy currency, you grind because you want to collect particular characters, gameplay is simple and tedious etc

Although, it did seem like they tried with this one, unlike Record Keeper or whatever. The music is good and I've heard the story is compelling enough to keep you going. Also, it's pretty generous with currency.

how long before he arrives?

He's already here

Breath of the Wild is a practice in open world design, at least that's what their priority was.

XV is a practice in early-access, platform-type console games for Square Enix. They're just testing the waters on how to milk more out of consumers for least amount of effort. Like they usually do.

Yeah, I get it that Westerner don't like mobile games. My point is Japan like it, so being put in mobile development in Japan is a good position. Easy game, salary still coming.

Chapters 1-8 focus on fetch quests in and out of the main story content. Chapters 9-14 focus on the actual plot, and what isn't there isn't well-written nor well-presented. Everything seems stitched together, and lazily written. It has been admitted by people involved in the production that the game was rewritten many times, and it is insanely evident upon playing the game. Inconsistencies everywhere, missing plot points, underdeveloped plot threads and characters.

To make matters worse, Square Enix assumed it would be a good idea to split the game into a movie, an anime, a Gamestop-only pre-order exclusive game, and a prologue novel. Without seeing the anime and the movie, you'll be utterly detached and lost and left with an underdeveloped main cast. To make matters worse, Kingsglaive: Final Fantasy XV is a poorly-written mess, with inconsistencies with the game, terrible camerawork, and nonsensical action, such as the main character reversing in his car up a skyscraper when it is falling down, stuck in between buildings.

Even if you were to watch the anime and the non-free movie, what you're left with is a disjointed narrative that was quite obviously meant to be far more grandiose than what it is. Every single character outside of the main bros lack screen time, giant events are handled off-screen, and to make matters worse, most cutscenes are presented in a lazy fashion, with stilted animations. As a result, there's no potential real attachment to the plot or characters; merely the idea behind them is possible to emotionally invest in.

It is quite literally the worst big-budget RPG story I have ever experienced. What's good is the concept and the potential, but it is completely destroyed by the gargantuan amount of rewrites that destroyed the narrative. In an attempt to rectify this, Square Enix has promised free story patches, but what's here is so poorly-written that the story patches ultimately cannot save the "quality" of the story.

but Japan likes mobile anything. I've frankly lost count of how many mobile games Squares put out in the past two years. It really bothers me when they constantly announce new IPs for mobile with the same dumb freemium model, when it could've been a fully realized game for 3DS or Switch or something. I wish Sino Alice was an actual game.

user, why shitpost about games you haven't played?

>You literallly can't die in 12, and all you do in fights is not press any buttons while the game plays itself.
Except you'd have to have setup your party perfectly for that to happen. And XII gives you the choice to go full manual, XV doesn't. Also, XII doesn't give you 2 health bars on death to use items.
>Half of the story in 12 happens offscreen or doesn't even exist.
You litterally are present for most of the empire's actions from the start of the game, while shit like the Insomnia invasion isn't even playable.
>The judges in 12 have even less development than the Niflheim empire does in XV, one of the Judges who was featured heavily in promo material has TWO scenes in the entire game and she's dead in the second one, Zargabaath and Bergan just dissapear just as they are seen.
And yet that's still more developpemnt than the FFXV empire where the entire council doesn't show up in front of the characters even once.
>The hunts in 12 don't have any real story to them.
Not my fault you can't read the dialogue that hunt clients give you.
>You have more control over that 1 character in XV than you do anything in 12, because you can manually
>Manually
You just hold buttons, and the game does it all for you.
>Magic in XV got turned into useful spells that has you manage resources for because of how useful and destructive it is, there is elemental weakness and environmental effects on all spells.
>Useful and destructive
Magic does less damage than weapons in every situation, weaknesses change nothing, the spells have no difference between them, any utility spells are gone.
>XV story is already better than 12 with a far better villain, main party and ending. And DLC is making it all the better.
>12 starts then the story just stops midway and has a nothing ending that no one cares about, and they aren't even trying to put in new story stuff to make it acceptable.
Selling unfinished games is ok, guys!

pretty sure the like first 3 chapters are nothing but guided plot story missions that lead you to unlock the overworld

Quiet's storyline was the only interesting part of this game.

So Venat's goal was to have Ashe tell the Occuria to go fuck themselves and use the sword to destroy the cryst. At the end of the game when you fight him and Vayne he's all "It's cool bro, we did it" but Venat spent the entire game trying to kill Ashe. Probably to remove the Raithwall bloodline from existence so that they cannot rise up over the empire and blow them apart with a fantasy nuke or something.

So it spends the entire game trying to kill Ashe but at the end of it all after its lost it goes "oh well, I won anyway" when it didn't do a goddamn thing and the Occuria still have ultimate power over the world seeing as they can blow it out of existence whenever the fuck they want.

Ardyn >>>>>>>>>>>> Venat/Vayne

If I was not mistaken XV-kun like FF12 before right? He was literally Itofags at one point unless I mistake it for someone else.

I love how people who haven't heard of Versus play XV, and then watch all the trailers for Versus and absolutely fall in love with what they were going for initially. Conceptually, Versus was always more interesting than XV and then finally playing XV makes you even hungrier for what Versus could've been.

Just watch this dumb normie experience the Versus reveal for the first time and become absolutely enthralled.

youtube.com/watch?v=gpkP564vj18

I remember being hyped as fuck after that first Versus trailer, then losing some interest once the whole party was revealed, then finally knowing it was going to be a major disappointment once Luna was shown. I'd really like to see what the original game looked like, but I know it will never see the light of day.

10 years of hype
That's all you need to know.
Also some people bought a PS3 for this etc

>If I was not mistaken XV-kun like FF12 before right?
no, that's a nigger on twitter who is a Itofag. He doesn't browse Sup Forums.

some people bought PS4s for this shit too goddamn

Well considering Tabata has no idea how to make a combat system, likely better. Jesus fucking holding down O was a stupid idea that was.

Also the animations were really shit and awkward as fuck.

It doesn't deserve neither hate nor love, it's a solid 6/10, enjoy it, OP.

You are wrong about everything.

Chapter 1-8 are the open world section and they have the same exact type of quests as the older FFs have. And the plot is well written and presented just fine, the story content is the highest FF has had, it's only that it's rushed in some parts towards the end.

It doesn't feel stitched toghether, and every fucking FF game in existence is rewritten multiple times, for fuck sake man the original concept of FF7 doesn't even resemble the final FF7 even remotely. There isn't any inconsistencies in the plot, "missing", please, anything important towards the main story is learned, and as for underdeveloped stuff that only affects secondary to tertiary characters which is the same for any FF.

Also you absolutely do not need to watch the movie or the anime to understand anything about the game, anything important from the movie is learned in the game and the anime has nothing to do with the main story. And a kingstale is literally a non canon fairy tell you fucking idiot, it's not even an actual story section of the game.

Also watching that car scene in the movie makes sense because of how the car is positioned, you're just piling on meaningless shit just to pad out your post.

And the main cast isn't underdeveloped at all, they have more chemisty, personality, better dynamic and growth than any single FF cast has.

What the game is is a simple story, just because it rushes through some parts doesn't make it disjointed. And no, most cutscenes were presented in well done and high quality fashion with some of the best animation SE has ever done, especially for real time at that level of high quality detail in the models. As a result the main cast have the highest potential for emotional invested and attachment than any other FF cast because of how well they are presented and all the things they go through and how it ends on such a high note with a ton of payoff.

It is easily one of the best AAA RPGs ever made.

You are clearly still in the first half of the game.

He's here

Nice try XV-kun.

Take Notice XV kun that you are the ONLY person who thinks its one of the best AAA RPG's ever made. You're such a piece of shit Bazztek , I unironically hope you get cancer one day.

this.

i thought ffxv was fun for what it was.

Says the user shitposting about a game he hasn't played.

Arise and you won't die, it's offline MMO shit.

>XV doesn't.
XV is literally entirely manual the entire game, you always have more control over Noctis over any character in 12 regardless of anything.

>while shit like the Insomnia invasion isn't even playable.
This has nothing to do with anything as the party are outside of Insomnia when that happens because they were doing other stuff. You clearly haven't finished 12.

>And yet that's still more developpemnt than the FFXV empire where the entire council doesn't show up in front of the characters even once.
It literally fucking isn't

Drace got heavy shown in promo material as one of the judges but then shown in only 2 scenes and she's dead in the 2nd scene, Compare here to Aranea who not only gets multiple story scenes and an actual character arc, but a story boss battle, she joins the party as part of the story, and has even more scenes in ep Prompto too.

SeeBergan is another nothing character, he spouts some stuff in a boss fight and that's it. I wouldn't even put him above Loqi.

Ghis is the only one besides Gabranth with an actual arc, and he has as much of one as Verstael by the end has with ep Prompto, which is as valid as using XII:ZA to judge FF12 with.

>Not my fault you can't read the dialogue that hunt clients give you.
Not my fault you think that is actual story, even the royal arm descriptions in XV is more story than that

>You just hold buttons, and the game does it all for you.
You can tap to attack, manually do finishers, directional inputs, manually switch weapons on Dpad, jump, aerial combos, parries, counters, dodge rolls, shield blocks, warpstrikes, impervious etc, all done through manual input

Magic does more damage than any single hit on a weapon does you fucking idiot. 1 magic cast deals a fuckton more damage than 1 sword swing.

12 is literally more unfinished than XV will ever be.

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Does XV have better combat animation than DMC4 or Nier Automata?

I'm the only one thinking that he's secretly Tabata?

He's really been on the defensive lately. XV just can't catch a break.

>neogaf shitting on XV
>all the biggest normie FF YTbers and face of the community are depressed and wavering on XV and SE;they all literally wouldn't mind a new Versus project
>XV threads on Sup Forums rarely even thrive anymore, even in the midst of new news or DLC; anons are just generally fed up with XV
>gamefaqs XV board is dying


Not to even mention all the quality games that came out in the past year and blew XV the fuck out. Even Zodiac Age is getting more praise than XV, same with Stormblood. The hyperbole Barry uses is just a sign that it really is over.

Except the actual game versus was nothing like that cg concept trailer because the soldiers didnt bleed in 2011 versus anymore and Noctis looks completely different in 2011 to 2006 plus he wasn't even written back in 2006. and any concept from versus was realized better in XV.

He's definitely some sort of shill. I think he's Mat Kishimoto from the community team.

>>XV threads on Sup Forums rarely even thrive anymore, even in the midst of new news or DLC; anons are just generally fed up with XV
Who the fuck would post about FFXV here when all you do is this gay GameFAGs circlejerk.

Kill yourself, every single fucking one of you.

Its a FF released after IX why waste your time on a dead franchise?

You can tap to attack, you never have to hold, and the basic sword and lance plus run and jump animations in the final game are identical to the 2011 versus trailer with the same exact speed, timing and animation, while they added even more fluid animations afterwards and because the model was higher poly and bones in the final game the animations flowed more smoother.

Not an argument.

Take notice that you are the only person that thinks this and you literally have no argument.

Is it faster than them? No. Animations themselves? Yes. Animation and fast battle speed are two different things.

Does DMC4 or N:A look even close to this good even outside of combat? No.

Wow you're trying really hard there NeithOF.

The soldiers still bleed as do monsters.

>and Noctis looks completely different in 2011 to 2006
So they gave him new clothes.

>he wasn't even written back in 2006
Yeah, because it was a concept
A concept more interesting than quippy, happy-go-lucky Noctis that spouts memes and screams "HEY I'M JUST LIKE YOU! I ALSO PLAY TRASH MOBILE GAMES ON MY PHONE, SEE? HAHA ISN'T KING'S KNIGHT™ THE BEST ERRYDAY LMAO"

"XV has better animations than DMC4". Holy christ there is no way you're this pathetic.

And no shit XV looks better its runs on an engine that is only capable of pumping out graphics and being shit at pretty much everything else.

>Does DMC4 or N:A look even close to this good even outside of combat? No.

So you admit that XV is vapid, glorified tech demo designed with how the game looks in mind as priority? Also great job showing a literal hallway area with enemies you can never fight but you can only see in the distance in this tiny portion of the game.

I don't think anyone has ever said XV is better than Automata. Hell look at these threads.
gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/75158179
gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/75104401
gamefaqs.com/boards/168677-nier-automata/75104401?page=1

>I have no argument so I'll just say you have no argument instead
>xv is better
>You have now been BTFO
>no u
>the irony
>Kill yourself __________
There, I just summed up every conversation you'll ever have with barry. Just ignore him already

>The soldiers still bleed as do monsters.
Not in the 2011 Versus trailer for the soldiers.

>So they gave him new clothes.
His 2011 Versus design is identical to his FFXV design. That 2006 Versus design was always placeholder and was done before Noctis was even written as a character, let alone named Noctis.

Sorry but how the fuck is a silent edgy Noctis just fighting grunts, who by the way has still the same abilities as displayed in that trailer, somehow better than an actually fully fleshed out character with a personality that is not only relatable and likeabe as a person but goes through character development into a responsible man who does what's ultimately needed at the cost of his life?

Seriously are you really that fucking insanely retarded? You are literally a fanfiction spouting cum guzzling Nomuracuck shitstain, I fucking hate you cunts more than anything because you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are even talking about.

Notice how you didn't make an argument and then tried to make a shitpost while already having been proven wrong?

>so far

I love that all you do is retweet that faggot on twitter on tries to make ingame footage seem more cinematic. I love especially how you're posting this particular webm that is known for being one of the worst levels in FF history, filled with hallways showcasing an enemy you cannot even fight. Good job XV-kun you fucking troglodyte.

>And the plot is well written and presented just fine, the story content is the highest FF has had
>Also watching that car scene in the movie makes sense because of how the car is positioned, you're just piling on meaningless shit just to pad out your post.
>And the main cast isn't underdeveloped at all, they have more chemisty, personality, better dynamic and growth than any single FF cast has.
>most cutscenes were presented in well done and high quality fashion with some of the best animation SE has ever done
>As a result the main cast have the highest potential for emotional invested and attachment than any other FF cast because of how well they are presented and all the things they go through and how it ends on such a high note with a ton of payoff.
>It is easily one of the best AAA RPGs ever made

Wrong.