Memes aside, this is possibly the best video game ever created

Memes aside, this is possibly the best video game ever created.

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Yes it is

until MyM ruined everything.

>Meet Your Match update

You couldn't be more wrong, even if you tried.

Certainly the best multiplayer FPS.
>b-b-b-b--but muh quake, muh 1.6

They're shit in comparison to prime TF2.

>tfw playing tf2 for the first time in 2007
You had to be there

Yeah, basically

Couple shitty updates, but that what happens with any came with constant support

heck make it pre-MyM TF2

had so much fun playing the beta. I will never recapture that moment

Not even a top 5 multiplayer fps

Yeah but people ruined it

this would be true if it weren't for this game.

I don't know about the best, but definitely the most

Best multiplayer for sure.

What are the top 5 multiplayer FPS games then?

>only 40,000 players now

Tf2 will never recover. It's only going to get worse from here

>babbies first diversity quota: the game
lmao

>Last 4 characters they added
>An egyptian
>A mexican
>A robot built by an African
>Another African

Adding characters for the sake of diversity makes the roster look dumb as fuck

>ten year old game with 40000 regular players
I'm not really sure what you expect

CS 1.6
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Tribes 2
Unreal Tournament 2003
Squad

TF2 might make 7-8

>haven't played in over 2 years
>decide to reinstall and try out vanilla servers
>the only vanilla servers that get any players are either brazilian 24/7 2fort or furry
>reuninstall

>squad
>UT2k3
LOL

thanks, forgot to add LoL to the list.

Why is it so popular with the autistic? I'm not even kidding, I work with autistic middle school kids and the overwhelming majority of the boys love it.

what games aren't popular with autistic people?

By popular I mean these kids are constantly talking about it, spewing the memes, own merch, etc.

This. Once they optimized this for "competitive" and made it an overwatch clone UI the game was perfect.

fuck. so sick of hats and friendlies and all that trash. i'm an uber update shitter and i get envious when i hear people go on about the good ol days in 09 and shit.

it was the greatest fucking game of all time before it went f2p. then it became the worst

>characters/lore are from all over the world
>Thinking it's forced diversity

k

Wrong, I don't think it. I KNOW that it's forced diversity, and everyone who plays the game understands this, it's blatantly obvious.

>not liking brown girls.

what's wrong with you?

le funny accent game xD

It doesn't take place in a specific place in the world, so most characters aren't going to be white.

It's got a lot of issues, although I love the game. I think this video is a good summary.

youtube.com/watch?v=9UiVtTR4aMY

nothing
he as good taste
brown girls are ugly

In it's prime? Sure

Now? debatable, it would be so much better if it had an actual development team behind it.

>2017
>Still havnt updated MvM since 2013
>Only maps anyone ever plays is 2cities

Why cant mvm get new content? Its fun but too easy

didn't make enough money or old TF2 team is working on DOTA2/CSGO

This, what the fuck?

Because the vast majority of gamers are autistic

the TF2 mercs are fun and well written for the most part.

Valve's target audience

reminder that there are 2007 servers that have hats and possibly some newer weapons disabled, so stop complaining about muh glory days and just find one of those servers

Chlidish and cartoony looks.

How can you tolerate Funke's annoying nasally voice?

turn on subtitles

Couldn't agree more.
most of the problems from MyM have been fixed now. If you seriously think MyM made even a dent in the overall quality of TF2, you're either retarded or haven't played since release.

I've heard worse over the years, including squeakers

You do realize that we're at the lowest point of the update drought?

Easily. Nine years spent meticulously analyzing every aspect of game development, they did basically everything right. The art style, the character models, the map layouts, the simple loadouts, everything they mention in the commentary shows how much attention to detail they paid.

A few stupid hats will never obscure this game's beauty.

NO DUDE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, 1% OF PLAYERS OWN AND WEAR GROTESQUE COSMETICS which can be modded out, THEREFORE THE GAME IS LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

No one on Sup Forums is buying your bait, faggot.

How do we make him viable for competitive?

The spy by virtue of his nature as a saboteur and surgical picker is already at a disadvantage in 6s, when the opposing team only has 6 players, will be constantly coordinating their movements, and all six of your usual competitive team will be infinitely more mobile than the Spy.

You can't really make him viable without totally destroying the fundamentals of the spy. Your real best bet is that everybody on the opposing team is so complacent with your standard 2 Scouts/2Soldiers/1Demo/1Medic loadout they don't expect a spy in the middle of the skirmishes, which gives you exactly one chance to make one very surgical strike and will be killed as soon as you make the play.

And once the enemy team knows a spy is in play, it will never work again. But if you deny the enemy even just one uber, or even just their medic for some length of time, that is absolutely invaluable.

The game was balanced for 12 vs 12 brawls, not 6 vs 6 skirmishes. Trying to balance around a mode where its most serious players are already placing heavy restrictions in terms of weapons, etc. is just retarded.

You can't.

5 million people bought it.

>on Sup Forums
Learn to read, shitface.

checked

You dumb cunt, explain to me why every tf2 streamer are now playing Overwatch?

Overwatch videos get more views.

More views = more money

This isn't some miraculous discovery, this is basic goddamn economics

>e-celebs
Who cares

He's not a brit or a wannabe brit, so I can deal with him, and he makes pretty good points.

plus he posted on /tf2g/ for a bit before I showed up, so he's got a little more respect from me

>every tf2 streamer
Tagg's played it for like a minute when star_ invited him, and b4nny and the rest of ESEA still religiously play TF2.
Only other games b4nny's been shown to play on stream was CSGO and Quake (2017) and that was about 2 days ago

I chalk it up to waifus

I never even played the game but I love the r34

>nuValve is retarded
Wow hot opinion there, surely no one in this thread would agree with you. Are you arguing just to hear yourself type?

>b4nny

I've never seen someone take TF2 so fucking seriously like this guy.

Cause it has a better viewership and is updated more often, but you're fucking delusional if you think they moved on because overwatch is fundamentally better.

Yes, it WAS*

Why would more people be watching a worse game?

Because it's a fad, which is already dying out.

Why do more people play bad games than good ones?

I didn't come into a TF2 thread to read about fucking Overwatch.

Why is CoD popular?

can't if sniper exists

I stopped playing for good since since Gun Mettle but I've heard it's gotten even worse. Has it improved at all?
I just want to re live those days where I played the shit out of it loving it every second.

wait for the pyro update. The game is in a much worse state now

yeah its fun but quickplay is dead and replaced with casual. No autobalance or switching teams in valve servers.

It was my favorite...

Because it's the new hot shit
Hell, most kids probably don't even know what TF2 is

it created a genre so yes it will be immortalized like doom and super mario.

Honestly, the game is the same as it always has been. I hate how everyone insists that its been ruined, when the core elements of the game are still strong. The cosmetics dont matter, the server browser is still there, the sidegrades are hardly used and have been around forever. The only thing that has REALLY changed is the community, and lets face it, it was never that good anyways, and its not much worse now.
People who claim its changed dramatically have mostly likely just changed themselves.

>mfw after all these years can still boot up tf2 drop into a game and have fun

There have been people saying TF2 is dead from the beginning. People that bitch about every little update and balance change. But I'll be damned if TF2 isn't a fundamentally good game that still feels great to play.

>Memes aside
Great game, but it was a meme game from day 1.

I've been playing this shit since 2007 or so. I still come back every few months for about a week to play the new mods, or just have fun.

The only other game to ever do that is Deus Ex.

I played other team based shooters (Overwatch, Monday Night Combat, etc.) and it just doesn't do it for me.

The mix of TF2 humor, gameplay and (up until the great brony invasion of 2011) the community. I still play every once in a while on community servers. It just doesn't get old.

For perspective, COD4 came out in 2007, the same year as Team Fortress 2, literally a month after.

In the 90s, at the dawn of the FPS genre, every multiplayer FPS of note was basically an arena shooter, with the odd tactical ensemble like Rainbow Six, the mod that would become Counter-Strike, etc. also coming around. We also saw Goldeneye popularize the FPS genre on consoles, quickly becoming one of the best selling in the genre.

Then Halo came and killed the arena, and at this point for the first half of the '00s we were inundated with scifi shooters that all played the same, and WW2 shooters.

And here comes COD, ditching WW2 for a cinematic 21st century setting. Tight, fast controls and 2 gun/regen health make it more palatable and accessible than Counter-Strike. The game constantly vomits progression at you. Kill someone? Points. Assist? Points. End of the match? Watch your experience bar go up. Level up? You got a new gun! Customize your shit.

It's like a dark mirror of TF2. It broke the mold and did a lot of things right.

and yet here we are. CS's core gamplay having stayed the same for nearly two decades is still the top 10 games played

Sure, just because people have been reinventing the wheel doesn't mean vulcanized rubber isn't still getting the job done.

But Counter-Strike's continued dominance as the most popular FPS of all time is a story for another day.

>reduce decloak time to somewhere between 1.5 to 1 second
>give the decloak sound the same max distance as the Dead Ringer
There he is viable now.

I'll tell that story.

It's a containment zone for Europoor tryhards. I'm glad it exists.

Say what you want about TF2. But you know how it said "the most fun you can have online" for its F2P announcement?

Well, they weren't lying. At least for me.

I couldn't get into it. It looked really fun and I was hyped to play it, but when I did....something didn't click. Idk if it was the controls or what, but I just couldn't get into it.

Disguising as the scout gives you his mobility
This may have an unintended side effect of making the class incredibly overpowered

Get in here and post your fav class and why you like it

I haven't had as much fun in any other multiplayer game as I did in TF2 in its prime. I don't think multiplayer and singleplayer games should be rated against one another, but as far as multiplayer goes I'd say it's my all time favorite.

>that spoiler
I'm not the least bit surprised.

Sadly all the community servers are dead now

So TF2 came out AFTER World of Warcraft and all of the servers are dead while WoW is still going. Yet TF2 could "possibly" be the greatest game of all time.

Great logic OP.

t-thanks gabe

I like all of them for their own reasons, I can't even say I have a least favorite; more appropriate would be for me to say I have a least preferred, being sniper.
Hybridknight is fun as fuck, FaNing Unstoppable scouts is hilarious, detonator pyro is always great for a laugh, soldier is fun to jump around with and pubstomp, you can run into a lot of ridiculous scenarios as spy, Heavy is fun to run around and smack people in the face with your fists, Gunslinger engineer is fun for being an annoying but effective shit, and for some reason healing people is satisfying for me in games in a bit of a necromancer way. This game is kind of like Warhammer 40K in that there's always something that fits whatever mood you're in.

i like you alot

>in an mge as soldier against some faggot demo player
>literally all he does is spam stickies into the air to prevent me from jumping him
>winning 18 to 16
>right as i frag him for the eighteenth point he switches to direct hit reserve shooter soldier
>he ends up winning with his cheese mge strats
>lol kid you're so bad haha you'd never beat me
>i ask him if he switches to direct hit reserve shooter every time he starts losing
>ignores me and continues sucking his own dick
it's kind of sad that winning matters this much to some people