Who did it better?

Who did it better?

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mario, like always

The sonic trailer killed a person.
So sonic wins by default

>t. sheltered nintenbaby who never had a genesis

>this guy disagree with me b-better right him off as some manchild
>i don't care that sonic hasn't had more than 2 good games in last d-decade

Genesis was a terrible platform.

Quality>Quantity

>sonic autist makes an appeal to authority

This. 2D Sonic absolutely blows away everything besides maybe Super Mario World.

Mario wasn't better until the transition to 3D.

Is okay if you can't handle blast processing

I'm fully convinced the dev team of Forces is ENTIRELY self aware.

>I am the sharpest of blades I'll cut you down in a second

They've gone full edge. No one goes Full Edge.

But they did. And it's amazing.

>Mario wasn't better until the transition to 3D.
21 years ago. This thread is about the new games, user.

That pic perfectly sums up the two characters.
>Mario is a short-tempered tryhard whose even shown to be a sore loser in one of the sports game
>Sonic is a carefree nigga whose sole purpose is to have fun and go on adventures

>except the worst console 2D Mario

holy shit, kek

But Mario World is the best 2D mario. Only Mario 3 and Mario U come close.

this is half true

sonic 3&K is better than every 2D mario but the other sonic games are lower than the 2D marios

inb4 sonic 2 autsits

>tfw Forces will feature another subpar Sonic soundtrack like Lost World
At Least There's Mania™

If it's anything like the Adventure soundtracks it'll be at least good

>subpar Sonic soundtrack like Lost World
Lost World has some of the best sonic music though.

are you fucking saying you like that edgyness?

I'd rather have edge than bingbing wahoo

I AM THE DARKEST OF DAYS

Sonic 3 is literally the worst one, fuck off.

CD and 2 beat any Mario game. Mania and the New! Mario Bros series is going to be no contest also.

The only good Sonic game is 3.

>2 beats any mario game
lol no

>CD
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>CD
Spotted the fag. CD's level design is utter fucking trash. It's literally nothing but jumping on small blocks, no room for momentum based platforming.
3&K>2>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CD

adventure 1 and 2

>2dpd

2 is for fucking casuals and had horrible visuals and level design

the fuck is wrong with this board

Do you not?

Did you listen to the song?

The Custom OC, the Edge, the old villians, the new OP Edgy Villian, the hundreds of different shades of BROWN for the background

It's like they know everything that's wrong with modern Sonic, and instead of trying to fix it one by one, they just said "FUCK IT, LET'S SEE JUST HOW FAR WE CAN GO AND SEE IF IT LOOPS BACK AROUND TO BEING GOOD".

At least presentation wise, it's fucking gold.

Why are 3K fags such vile little shitposters? The closest thing I've EVER seen one get to a coherent argument is yelling about why they hate the other games. I've never actually heard a single reason why SK is supposedly in this loft place above the other 3 Genesis Sonics

What the fuck is wrong with you?

because anyone who's played the genesis games knows that 3&K is by far and away the best one. Thinking anything otherwise makes you a tiny brained troglodyte not worthy of actual discussion

At least the actual main theme is, eh, well no it's actually not great. Better than the edgetastic one, though.
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Because CD is fucking horrible you delusional shit eater.

I like it, it gives me a sonic heroes vibe. Which is a good thing

SMW2 > 3&K > SMW > SMB3 > Sonic 3 > SMB:LL > S&K > Sonic 2 > SMB2 > CD > SMB/Sonic 1

>SMW2
>Super Mario World 2
Nani?!?!

AFTER ALL THIS TIME YOU'RE BACK FOR MORE!!!

yoshi's island

Yoshi's Island retard. It's full title is Super Mario World 2: Yoshis Island

...

great taste

Oh fuck I forgot that they labeled a game with entirely different gameplay Super Mario World 2.

CUZ IF YOURE MESSING WITH ME I AM A DANGEROUS WEAPON I AM THE SHARPEST OF BLADES ILL CUT U DOWN IN A SECOND

DKC2 > all that faggot shit

fucking idiot

Infinite's theme is so fucking perfectly campy edge.

God damn I love it.

>Oh fuck I forgot that they labeled a game with entirely different gameplay Super Mario World 2

Admittedly, that was fucking odd of them, AND it was actually a prequel, but yeah, there it is.

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What's wrong with you my dude?

>I'm fully convinced the dev team of Forces is ENTIRELY self aware.
You honestly have no idea how out of touch Sonic Team really is, do you?

These are the same guys who unironically thought it was a good idea to give Shadow a gun and have Sonic characters cursing. Who unironically thought it was a good idea to have Sonic killed and then resurrected by a human princess' kiss. Who unironically thought it was a good idea to have Sonic turn into a werewolf in order to bypass the "shitty friends" complaint. Who unironically thought it was a good idea to make a waggle-focused Sonic game where he wields a sword. Who unironically thought it was a good idea to produce a literal "Sonic 4" with Megaman physics because they didn't think anyone would really care. And for a more recent example, the head of Sonic Team was wary of showing off Sonic Mania because he didn't think the idea of a classic-focused Sonic game would be received that well.

You're giving Sonic Team WAY too much credit if you think they just one day became completely self-aware. Maybe Sega of America and its PR team will try to play Forces off as a joke, but the developers honestly expect people to take this shit seriously. It's hilarious, but also pathetic in a way.

>Jun Senoue on guitar
Hell yea

While I agree, and DKC2 > K:SS > MMX would be at the beginning of the list, it has nothing to do with this topic.

Lost World's music was pleasant, but it's pretty mediocre compared to other Sonic soundtracks.

CUZ I WAS BORN IN THIS PAIN
IT ONLY HURTS IF YOU LET IT
SO IF YOU THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME
YOU SHOULD GO AND FORGET IT

SO LOOK AROUND YOU AND TELL ME WHAT YOU REALLY SEE

sonic team is on enough layers of irony to make an onion jealous

user, I'm just hoping against hope here.

Just let me have this

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>3&K is one game

Delete this

Pretty sure we were judging 2D platformers
Also megaman x is an action game with platforming elements

this sounds like the opening of a shonen anime tbqh

>It's Crush 40 esque
>Mfw
It's not quite OPEN YOUR HEART or LIVE AND LEARN but it'll do.

Yes, it does, but that doesn't mean that its soundtrack as a whole was kinda weak compared to the usual Sonic fair. They need to stop stretching Ohtani so thin and bring in more composers to help out.

What

Source?

It was kids who suggested Sonic have a gun.

Probably just the fact it's the longest.

I just wanted a game that didn't have that shit tier dialogue they've had since colors. Was that too much to ask?

There's nothing wrong with enjoying Forces' edgy stupidity, but there's no need to give Sonic Team credit when they don't deserve it.

Well no shit, it's literally just two fucking games stapled together.

And it was grown men who thought it was a good enough idea to follow through with it. Kinda sad.

>

My god, it's Sonic '06 all over the again.

I fucking love it.

Nah, we're judging 90's Mario and Sonic platformers.

You also forgot Klonoa 2, Cave Story, Megaman 2, Wario Land 2, Dustforce, Earthworm Jim, and numerous other ones that top the Mario/Sonic list.

Gex 1 dominates all

Sonic was always boring

Is this a joke 2's design beats 3k by a long shot

This time we're given full warning that a trainwreck is planned.

Last time we didn't find out until the fucking train smashed in front of us.

there are plenty of good platformers but mario and sonic are staples of the genre along with megaman of course

Supply and demand. We should write letters to Yuji Naka for A Sonic game that's exclusively werehog

That's what I was saying. We're discussing only Mario / Sonic here, DCK2 while great has very little to do with them.

Black Knight was great fuck you.
Though yeah the controls could have used work but at least it wasnt literally unplayable like secret rings.

In any case most of all that stuff was almost a decade ago or longer, they get better with time as Generations had shown us.

Megaman is more of an action platformer rather than a precision platformer

Cave story has platforms but is hardly the same genre

I think that Bonesaw is also worth mentioning

Rock music ruined Sonic the Hedgehog.

The fuck do you go from Michael Jackson to Crush 40. Embarrassing.

>Jolly happy times VS Ow the edge

The choice is clear

No, I'm just talking about the music. I feel like I'm listening to Zebrahead again. Not the whole band, just Ali Tabatabaee & Matty Lewis.

>Yuji Naka
He hasn't has anything to do with Sonic for over a decade.

Up the shut fuck?

3K fags are little babies that are easily distracted by cute flashy gimmicks like the shields

Lets be honest. Mario will easily be 90+ On Metacritic where Sonic Forces will struggle to hit 70

I realized that after I hit post. Whoops.

Good, his non-sonic projects are excellent.

The game could be Mario shitting in Luigi's mouth and critics would give it a 90+, what's your point?

HERE WE GO

I love the crush 40 music, but I see your point. At least mario has consistently silly sounding, vaguely Italian music.

>the controls could have used work but at least it wasnt literally unplayable
It says a lot when THIS is the best you could come up with to defend Black Knight.
>they get better with time as Generations had shown us
And Forces has shown us that Sonic Team is willing to drop down to that level of stupidity again despite Generations.

Honestly, I only think Forces looks mediocre, but I'm not exactly seeing anything worth defending either.

>i think its medicore but i dont see anything worth defending

be more redundant, please

>Mario will easily be 90+ On Metacritic where Sonic Forces will struggle to hit 70

Mario's going to hit 94 because there's going to be some contrarian fucks that just give it a 60 because "No LGBT representation" due to them not including Birdo or some shit.

Forces is going to get 64 because there's going to be some contrarian fucks that just give it a 90 because "OMG I CAN MAKE MY DEVIANT ART CHARACTER EVERYTHING'S OK" due to the reviewer not having a brain.

Mania is going to hit 96 but have half the amount of reviews because 2D platformers don't sell like hotcakes anymore.

All the 3D Marios are stellar platformers. Sonic wishes he had games that good.

They also have better soundtracks and don't have to rely on cringy "so bad its good" vocal tracks Mr. Live and learn

Unleashed soundtrack stomps the handful of decent songs Lost World has

lol im saying the exact opposite. The controls is the only flaw I'm not using the controls to defend it.
To defend it, I'd point out that the story was great, the gameplay was fun, and the music was great.