Can someone explain how this game with bad cutscenes, mediocre soundtrack, no real, dependable autoattack...

Can someone explain how this game with bad cutscenes, mediocre soundtrack, no real, dependable autoattack, annoying interaction mechanics, uninteresting locations, and almost no final fantasy elements of story, writing, or themes is considered good?

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fuck off blizzdrone
Many people unironically play it because its a "Final Fantasy" game, others play it for lalas or catgirls. Keep on mind this game is supposed to appeal the braindead audience who enjoys eyecandy. Nothing else. If you put attention to many details in this game you can see you are not supposed to move/run while casting because there are no walking or running animations at all. Other fun-fact I found when I played a year ago, your CPU's clock could fuck up your cooldowns in this game,
I have no fucking clue how.

so it's supposed to be a stupid game

It's basically vanilla WoW, none of that terrible changes they made in recent years, so of course people will like it

I play FFXI still and I'm liking the endgame content. It's been a steady increase in rewards and doing RoV makes it faster.

my point is that compared to actual videogames, not subscription-farms, this is a pretty boring and unaffecting game

it is the only story-driven MMO out there with that story being told over the life of each expansion.

it also has the weeabo crowd

the story's really uninteresting though, just standard chosen one garbage

I don't understand, literally all of those things are wrong. Apart from a good autoattack maybe? (Why the fuck do you want an autoattack?)

Is this bait? A joke? It's hard to tell anymore.

explain how I'm wrong then

you cannot argue the fact that the cutscenes, soundtrack, locations, etc. are all drab as fuck compared to other, better games

and yet, it's still better than literally ALL other MMO's.

but as a non-MMO player I'm asking why anyone would fucking pay $60+a motherfucking $15 p/month subscription for this

Cutscenes, while not the best, actually have a lot of meaning to the story behind them. Sure, there's a lot of 'canned' animations but its also because its all in engine.

Soundtrack is one of the best and most varied.
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Locales are fantastic and varied as well, and its only getting better.

>Soundtrack is one of the best and most varied.
I'm sorry but you're objectively wrong.
Please play VII and X if you want original soundtracks with a lot of variety.

Provide examples of what you're saying are "drab" in each catagory and i'll show you examples which I think prove you wrong.

Burden of proof lies with the accuser m8

if you're a non-mmo player then I don't really understand what you're bitching about.

0/10 apply yourself better.

He is memeing user, all of his points are subjective, he is probably a mad wow friend or a shitposter, regardless of you like XIV or not, you cannot deny it is a well made WoW clone with a lot of things done right.

And I also said "One" of the best and most varied.

Never said it was the end all be all of soundtracks. But holy shit is there a ton of music. Didn't win an award for most songs for nothing after all.

lol I'm not that autistic, I don't obsessively catalog everything I hate about a game

suffice it to say FFXIV does nothing original or different from any previous game and does none of it better

>But holy shit is there a ton of music.
yeah like the phrase goes, quantity over quality huh

So, no examples or proofs, at all

I believe i'm done here

Yeah unlike you I'm not an autistic MMOfan

And yet, catchy as fuck. Either way, opinion on the music, the rest? Nah.

I'm curious as to why you hate everything else.

Yes yes well done user well done ..

HOWEVER

you are autistic enough to complain about an MMO you don't even play on Sup Forums

(please notice my reddit space :3 )

Brand sells it really well.

>you are autistic enough to complain about an MMO you don't even play on Sup Forums
I've been doing the free trial for about 2-3 hours.

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Because the mechanics make for a solid MMO, the gathering and crafting is more interesting than in other games, and the playerbase is generally more friendly than most of the other MMOs right now. Definitely more friendly than WoW, Wildstar, BDO, and GW2, all of which I have played before and had multiple first-hand experiences with both great and terrible players.

Also, the way they handle PvP is fresh for an MMORPG. It's still not as fun as, say, GW1's PvP or Wildstar's (sadly) unpopulated Warplots, but it's a welcome departure from WoW's bullshit.

Also, some of the story elements are amazing while others are terrible. A lot of the side stories are great - the Pugilist job quests, Hildibrand, there are dozens of stories that are very well-done.

The "no auto-attack" is a mechanical feature, not a hindrance. You're not supposed to be dealing damage through basic attacks, you should be focusing on a custom rotation for your play style. Back when ARR launched, my MNK was topping out everybody in DPS, and I was not following the meta in the slightest. Now that I'm back, I use a variant of the Cure 2-focsed WHM meta to overheal effectively without squandering too much mana.

I rejoined the game two weeks ago and I'm having a blast. Just hit 52 and currently working on doing all the endgame 50 content I missed out on. The new job classes are super interesting, too.

But the main story is indeed shit. Everything about it is shit. All of the characters involved are shit. The endless fetch-quests that they use to make you TP all over the world are shit. The MSQ is the worst feature of this game, by far.

Pretty much everything else is either "mediocre", "original", or "fun". That's why it's popular.

Plus, add in a community that actually likes to work together on shit and you've got yourself some good times ahead.

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>Story is uninteresting
Maybe ARR's leveling quest, but Coils and HW have been some of the best Final Fantasy narrative content to come out in a long ass time.

I seriously think people saying the story isn't good have literally not even given it a fair shake or are literally allergic to reading.

lol what
oh boy your game is shit and I haven't yet become obsessed with it and ignore all its flaws

whatever will I do, have a life?

I kinda wanna sub and play ffxi again. I know its not the same game bht the areas should still be how i remember them.

>FFXIV playerbase more friendly

>FUCKING HEALER WHY DIDN'T YOU HEAL ME?!
>Sorry, I was DPSing
>YOU'RE A FUCKING HEALER KICKED
>Ok, I'll heal more.
>OMG HEALER WHY IS YOUR DPS SO LOW, FUCKING DPS THIS IS TAKING FOREVER
>But I--
>Kicked

>bad cutscenes
Oh, fuck yeah it does. It's late-PS2 quality animation. It's not bad for an MMO but that's no excuse.
>mediocre soundtrack
This is subjective and I think the soundtrack is excellent. The field themes don't hold a candle to FF11 but a lot of other tracks are awesome.
>no real, dependable autoattack
Not a necessity and the game does just fine without it.
>annoying interaction mechanics
I'm not entirely sure what you mean here.
>uninteresting locations
Every area has a unique and interesting visual aesthetic to it. Again, I feel like FF11 dominates here mainly because the absurd size and scope of the world made it feel real but FF14 has some great an interesting looking places too.
>almost no final fantasy elements of story, writing, or themes
I'll agree that it's a bit off as far as FF goes but it still does a good job doing it's own thing. The theme of colonialism and hubris in Realm Reborn, and of betrayal, forgiveness, and family in Heavensward were pulled off pretty well. A lot of the characters sucked in Realm Reborn but they all started to redeem themselves during the last chapters and going into Heavensward. I thought I would never tolerate that elf bitch boy but he actually grows up into a pretty cool bro. If you're looking for superficial shit, though, then FF14 still does fantasy magic mixed with techology and a world with multiple governments and/or kingdoms, which most of the games in the franchise have done.

Nigga, please.

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Name me an MMO that has better

>Built in UI customization
>Use of older content
>Soundtrack
>Crafting syetem
>World aesthetic

Don't worry, I DPS. I can wait.

>Being a bot
You deserve to be kicked

>If you put attention to many details in this game you can see you are not supposed to move/run while casting because there are no walking or running animations at all
Are you sure it's not because the game designers intentionally put a limitation on mages to make them control differently? If mages could move and cast at will, how would they be any different than physical ranged attackers?

I can name countless better games, when it comes to MMOs though I can think of GW1.

This doesn't even deserve an actual response.

>anime reaction pic

Healers should never dps. Only support through healing, buffing, and debuffing. Screw the way xiv has it set up.

What the fuck are you even talking about? FF XIV has pretty much the widest variety of music of any FF
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But can you play GW1 right now and have a good MMO experience?

He doesn't care about the variety, and think that they are all shit.

ARR story was shit until the end. HW had a way better story dragonsong was probably the best one so far. Stormbloods story is boring as fuck. So glad i can craft or gather because the story is boring as fuck

Why are games that cost less money held more accountable for quality than Jewish MMOs?

Lol, i dps i can wait, i love it

>Main WHM
>Hullbreaker Hard is brand new
>PLD bitching at me for constant DPS, even though no one's near death
>Finally wipe during the final encounter because half the players didn't know about the chest mechanics
>I get kicked for not healing
I love this game when playing with friends but god fucking damn is the community fucking retarded. I also remember seeing a bunch of people demanding parties that "knew the fight" for Nidhogg Exteme even though it only released about 15min ago. The worst part is that playing with friends isn't really easy because you have a long ass single player campaign to get through that has to be done solo in order to get to the dungeons, trials, and raids. So unless you have some likeminded friends with a ton of time on their hands or are willing to buy a jump potion, then the game nearly unplayable. I miss Phantasy Star Online so bad. That was such a no filler game and it was fucking great, even if it did get repetitive.

Non-MMO player here who bought the $20 starter pack and hasn't paid for time yet.

Honestly, I was thinking it would just be a fairly shitty RPG without much to do, but the more I play the more shit I find in the game. I don't see how some people can consistently subscribe for 4 years, though. There really is an overwhelming amount of content (a dungeon that is basically a minigame, all of the crafting you can do). I may buy a 6-month pass and see what happens after that.

You are right, though, it is difficult to justify 60+15/month when there are so many other games you could purchase and play with that money. It's just that if you don't mind the slow, methodical pace of an MMO there's no reason why you shouldn't give it a try.

It's fine to say that you're not a fan of some of the songs but if there's literally not a single song you like in FF14 then you're a contrarian faggot. It's crazy how much variety there is and how often they try new things with the music. Realm Reborn's base soundtrack was a little lackluster but everything that came with the updates and expansions have been gold.

This is the best MMO community I have ever played with. You seriously must have been doing something wrong or lost the lottery to get a reaction like that from people.

Can someone explain to me why you are still allowed to run your pseudo general on Sup Forums?

Because hall-monitors don't run Sup Forums.

Woah video games on a video game board. Go back to your console war threads faggot

Once you explain why 60 simultaneous persona waifu threads up at a time are fine

Generals on Sup Forums are against the board rules.

>mediocre soundtrack

Bait as you like but this one sure isn't true. Plenty of other shit to legitimately knock about it.

Are there any highly populated fcs on exodus? I just want to listen in on the chat

>mediocre soundtrack
>uninteresting locations

listen here u little shit

It's worth it to save tomestones and get the Creation weapon first right?

depends on your other gear really. if one of the cheaper items lets you unlock next tier of content, do that instead.

Check lvl 70 craft gear on MB and compare it, certain pieces can be better stats wise. (They are also penta meld'able so take that into account.)

Most areas are still the same though some have had nm's moved and some 99 leveling spots added.

The trusts just let you do the content at your own pace and then you can do end game content with other people if you so desire.

I miss how it used to be but this is a lot more accessible to most of the playerbase and the combat is fun and the content is cute so I'm okay paying for it.

Weekly reset is almost here. Have you finished everything you wanted to do?

>tfw your raid group disappoints you completely tonight wiping to dumb things and making many mistakes
>tfw can't apologize enough to the sub for not getting the clear like we should have

I'm not a person that gets angry, but I know how he feels for being stuck on O3S given how PF is on this fight, I feel bad.

yeah, finally squeezed that last bolt out of 2.0

those are all shit, not worth even the worst song of FFVII or X

>playerbase friendly
lol dont lie, half the people are afk and never talk, a quarter are extreme fags and trannies trying to erp, and the other quarter is try hard faggots. 2.0 the friendly community was true but its gone far down since then

Not really, after more than 30 hours trying to PUG O2S i just couldn't do it in time. Seen enrage many times, gotten to sub 5% twice but i just can't clear it.

I'll be honest, if it didn't have FF branding I would've dropped it doing all that titan garbage

>tfw you cleared OS3 in a pug
>tfw you couldn't stick with them for OS4 and end up in pf waiting for the rest of the week

Next week maybe

>that feeling when you watch someone's healthbar roller coaster back and forth four times from empty to full in PVP

Healers were a mistake holy fuck

Someone buy me this game pls. Im so sick of WoW but im poor

No it's not retard

Name 5.

Oh wait. There aren't 5 good MMOs, it's between ARR and WoW and WoW is quickly running its course

Free trial.

Fuck off

It's a very simple formula if you think about it.
>Pretty looking
>clean ui appearance despite default being a cluttered mess
>Very simplistic and easy to learn mechanics
>Have to go out of your way to find difficulty
>most rare rewards are cosmetic meaning you can get them yourself or simply buy them
>maximum convenience. can teleport anywhere for negligible gil.
>easily recognizable FF brand, characters, monsters, etc. that people already love

Already done, it's why I want to purchase it, I liked it

Just get a PLD/DRK on his ass and let despair consume him.

Use PF.

>Play with a friend as a WHM/BRD combo deal for raids
>Get picked up for a static after they check his parse and approve
>Level AST in record time since they already had a WHM and I wanted to be with my friend
>Super nervous since I haven't raided since Coil and I don't want to disappoint
>Group is very midcore but we get shit done eventually
>My friend dies a lot due to a combination of lag and tunnel vision
>Eventually they kick my friend, but they tell me before him since they want to keep me
>Stayed on with them but feel like I'm looking for excuses to quit since there's a ton of drama and everyone has different ideas on what speed we should be progressing at
>Friend is bummed and doesn't feel like logging in any more

Should I stay? The leader and his friend are nice, but there's so much drama and a revolving door of people who join, band together against a low-performing person, and either force them to quit or leave themselves. Meanwhile the leader just wants to progress without stressing about peak performance shit since we're not world's best material.

I just wanted to have a reliable group to do Savage stuff with, not maintain a herd of drama llamas and get vented at by every fucking person with a pet peev.

>On o4s
>Could've at least beat Exdeath earlier this week and went on to Neo if people weren't retarded
>Had to replace our BLM who was literal dogshit
>BRD left because they were friends with BLM
>Now have to try 2 people out at the same time
>1 was old raid member from Creator and it's his first time doing the fights but we got him his 1-3 clears this week
>Other person is a rando with a great attitude but only just cleared o3s with us tonight but definitely needs more practice
>We're not raiding tomorrow

I definitely could've at least gotten Exdeath down and possibly even Neo Exdeath down first week if I was with consistent people. There's like 2 of us in the group that have to pay extra attention to mechanics to explain them well to everyone else. I hate being behind and this has happened literally every tier since Gordias. I'm almost to the point of quitting(again).

If my account isn't deleted then I have to fucking catch up on a whole week lost.

Yeah. Welcome to statics. There's a reason most normal people don't bother.

I'd say leave, and play with your friend. You joined with him, find another static which will take you as WHM if that's what you still prefer

>Every thread starts as a bait for people to shit on XIV

Whatever gets us a thread I guess

After 2 expansions maybe people are just tired of eating shit

>Log on
>Raid for an hour or two
>Roll on weapon chest in O4S against cotank
>win or not, who cares
>log off

I play with him when he's on, but he's probably going to take an extended break until 4.1 for IRL reasons anyway. If he finds another group that fits my schedule I will join him in a heartbeat though. I just wonder if it's worth staying with these guys or if I can find a less drama-filled progression group elsewhere.

This is why I stick to PuG, despite even it's own inherent frustrations.

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>Lost Allagan spear has fucking 240 skill speed
t-thanks

I fucking hate pugging after what I went through in Gordias and part of Midas. The people that play this game are so absolute fucking dogshit, it kills my will to play. I really like this game but there's just so much shit that's gone on since I've started playing that I don't even know why I still play anymore.

I'm on a JP data center so it's a little better. Can't imagine what it's like over there. I remember PuG-ing ARR Extreme primals back on NA. "good" times.

I mean.. I don't think the game's shit, but this tomestone formula is very tiring. and so will be farming the next anime weapon.

>implying there's a choice in the matter
Either wait for Eureka or clear Savage nerd.