Ever notice how nobody's willing to defend this shit game anymore, not even the normalfags?
Every single Pokemon forum is dead thanks to SM. So is Showdown thanks to the meta being just as horse shit as the cart game. They even had to promise Switch games at E3 because of all the backlash. Is this pretty much the Other M of Pokemon?
It was alright at first.
People were fucking retarded and overhyped and what annoyed me the most was
>WOW THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY HARD BECAUSE I CAN'T WIN ARENABATTLES WITH A FIRE TYPE AGAINST A WATER TYPE
Just last week I saw people talking about it in a positive light at my LGS.
A couple of the totem battles were harder than anything ever before in Pokemon
3D was a mistake
Yeah the models look nice but every area is just a hallway
A lot of features and quality of life improvements were great. The setting was also great.
The story was cringe city, the Ultra Beasts were retarded, the low number of new Pokemon was infuriating, and almost all Alolan forms were disappointing
Only spergs care about the difficulty of a Pokemon game
Overall it was okay, near the middle of the series in terms of quality
There is alot of hate on these games here today.
I thought they were ok. Not stellar, but I enjoyed playing through it.
Nothing in that game was on the level of Cynthia.
I do not understand why everyone says the totem battles were hard. I didn't lose one.
>Ever notice how nobody's willing to defend this shit game anymore, not even the normalfags?
Because everyone forgot about it months ago, after they beat it and told reddit and facebook how much they loved it.
But I doubt you actually know that, because you've never talked to anyone about the game outside Sup Forums, especially not a normalfag.
I thought they were fun. Most of the new Pokemon were slow as shit though...
I didn't lose to any of them either but they were closer to a challenge than the snooze fest that was Gen VI or even Gen V's relatively cakewalk games
Sinnoh was 10 years ago, not everybody have it fresh in their minds to remember
I disagree, I found V harder, and replayed it about a year ago.
That said, it was harder than the entirety of VI. Both X/Y and OR/AS were piss easy.
I'd restart my Black 2 and try Challenge mode to see how hard that is, but I have a sentimental tie to my save file that I put hours in. It was the most fun I had in any Pokemon game
BW's problem was that all the good Pokemon were mid-to-late game so having a good team to handle everything was frustrating, the early game was a slog. Also the only time I whited out was cause the game forced Reshiram into my party because that was good design
I love the game, but hate the fucking festival plaza. Also no mega flygon ;(
>Cynthia
That's a funny way of spelling Evice.
Pre-Gen IV movepools need not apply
I found it varies based on the battles. There are about two or three totem battles that can make or break the difficulty depending on who they call. For example, the Wishiwashi battle can become much harder if it summons Alomomola. Otherwise a pretty straight forward fight.
>Pre-Gen IV movepools need not apply
not him but why? cant handle a challenge?
>They even had to promise Switch games at E3 because of all the backlash.
The backlash was from the Switchfags stroking their dicks over the fake Stars leak, faggot.
SM were decent games, a nice breath of fresh air towards the series and were a step up from 6th gen.
Personally I'd love to continue playing it, but I'm busy catching up with old games and I'd rather continue shiny hunting in Y/OR
Because Gen IV actually introduced all the good moves and had the Physical/Special Split to take better advantage of a Pokemon's stat than having Dragon Claw on a Dragon Dance Salamence
Also just cause the selection of Pokemon suck doesn't make it challenging. This is coming from someone who unironically runs Dunsparce in Crystal
the petting stuff is triggering me
The wild pokemon and Trainer battles had higher level curves than previous games.
As for the Totem battles, they would be a pain in the ass unless you had the right pokemon for it, whether your team had the better types or your pokemon were OU/OP/Whatever
I hate how /vp/ always delude themselves into thinking they are center of the world.
I can defend these games if I want to, but most criticism are blown out of proportion or extremely subjective.
Don't do it, then. It makes the game even easier than with exp. share on all game. Worse if you use both.
It had the sexiest girls (including Pokemon) but fell short in everything else.
Lilie is a fucking abomination
I must have been a lucky faggot then because I went in blind and the only one who gave me even gave me anywhere near a difficult time was the Vikavolt due to my non-existent rock moves.
How? Totem Vikavolt is the epitome of AI retardation. It's a Special Attacker with Physical moves and a partner that boosts said Special moves it doesn't have
As someone who has played and finished every single other mainline installment I'm scared to play it at all. It just looks unappealing and boring. I don't think I finally grew up either, because I love Pokemon and unironically think XY were amazing.
No reason to play them with USUM coming out. Just wait it out and play something else so you don't burn out
Also SM doesn't even have a NatDex. It's seriously one of the worst Pokedexes in the series
Definitely the worst Pokémon games ever made, desu. Gen 6 wasn't good either, but they had slightly more content, a little more exploration, and didn't slow the pacing to a crawl with cutscenes for some shitty story nearly as much.
I'm just glad people are waking up. I've been saying these games are crap since a few weeks after they came out and the damage control from people defending them was frustrating.
I can't enjoy it because of the game's performance. It just runs so fucking badly, I can't stand it.
Hell, SOS in random battles made wild encounters more difficult.
Don't play them. Skip USUM as well. Wait for the Switch game. It may be half decent.
>Wait for the Switch game.
>Wait for Game Freak to fumble and fuck up an entirely new engine for a system they have no experience with and produce another DP or XY
almost zero replay value. I got bored half way through (nuzlocke) and played SMT instead
Because I had too much water on my team.
Maybe if you're retarded. SM isn't the easiest in the series but it's sure as fuck not difficult in the slightest. Every totem battle gives you something in the same area and some of their AI is downright stupid. Totem Wishiwashi will always Soak you first and then attack you so you don't get any fucking damage from its attacks.
The low number of Pokemon was the best thing about the games, every new pokemon has something unique and no longer feel like dex fillers like in previous gens.
the difficulty is good, but z moves break the game.
And the handholding and railroading is HORRIBLE
Except I didn't find Cynthia hard, because I was already at the end of the game, I could do whatever by then. Totem battles were me trying to win with less than optimal movepools, and its 2-1 usually, with the opponent having a Z boost.
The multiplayer is the best it's ever been.
Pokemon games haven't been replayable since Gen IV
>Using Z Moves
What kind of autist used this shit? The game was perfectly fine without them. I don't understand why Game Freak thought they were a good idea
Pokemon is so shitty now.
I left /vp/ because they are fine with Gary being left out of that new movie.
SM was the third set of games GameFreak made for the 3DS and they were hot shit. I'll take my chances.
>Still sucking Gary's cock after all these time
You should leave this world not just /vp/
Honestly, the first playthrough isn't the worst thing ever but it still drags on a bit.
Because they realized that they couldn't make megas for every Pokemon and needed a way to make more Pokemon usable.
>Playing singles
>HAHAHA LET'S RUIN THE STORY FOR EASY BUCKS
This is the future you chose, faggot.
Enjoy your shitty US and UM versions for easy bucks.
That's not AI retardation, that's bad boss design.
Now Lusamine? That's a retard.
Pokemon anime is utter shit to begin with
I'm dropping the series after USUM if there's no NatDex again. If USUM aren't good there's no redeeming the series
It's more of a half-assed thing
How?
SM is still way better than DP
Cynthis was only hard if you soloed the game with your starter, except you also used box legendary you thought was neat.
It was fun to get reactions and make shitty memes from.
Now not even that. It is all super seriouz businezz about saving da world.
Gary is actually in the movie and he was NEVER of any importance in the story
I'm still pissed Trainers refuse to use more than 2 pokemon at a time.
Most of them only have one goddamn pokemon.
Why the fuck are there even trainers? What makes them different than fighting wild pokemon at that point?
Jesus christ.
>anime
>ever mattering
You're right, it is the future I chose.
The grimdark manga is better anyways.
I just hope the Switch models aren't washed out like the 3DS 3D models.
>Skill Swap and Slaking, Swords Pass, and 2 flavors of setup and sweep
>Lol muh 4 attacks, 1 of which is redundant and another is just a shit move, if I even have 4 moves
They're roadblocks that you need to beat to move on. It's true they have fewer pokemon, but unlike previous generations, they actually evolve theirs instead of using five shitmon in the second half of the game.
Totem Vikivolt is actually hard if it ever attacks.
The AI is just fucked so hard it almost never does.
user the 3DS models are overpoly for the purposes of Game Freak never having to make new ones
Get used to those pastel, stiff, lifeless plastic toys while you still can
Take your Gamecube games and shove it. AI isn't smart enough to use a Baton Pass strategy
>The wild pokemon and Trainer battles had higher level curves than previous games.
This is literally irrelevant, since higher levels=more exp.
It didn't work, because the meta is almost as centralized as it was in gen 6. Doesn't matter if shit with stat pools in the 80s-100s gets a z-move, it's going to get shafted by lando/tapus anyway, and that's not even considering megamence.
>all these trash opinions
Gen 6 was the worst gen by far. Gen 7 was alright, and I'd go as far as to say that it was one of the comfiest gens to play through. The music was on point and the Hawaiian setting was aesthetic as fuck. The characters were all a lot more likeable and memorable than in previous gens as well.
>but unlike previous generations, they actually evolve theirs instead of using five shitmon in the second half of the game
Do you even play the games?
But Evice actually does use it.
Nope.
Anyone calling the games shit or even the worst in the series are just wrong, objectively. No need to debate facts, you know.
lol no.
Here's your (You)
Masuda spent the entire last few Generations utterly fucking up the meta and Ohmori just doesn't give a fuck and does a bunch of gimmicky OP Pokemon. He's more focused on telling shit stories than making games
I don't mind if it means more cumsluts but Pokemon's done for now
There's no need to actually refute opinions when you can just say you're right like a child
The music is fine and the characters have their moments but other than that I think the game is pretty shit. The story doesn't really help matters as it's not anything special and there's a lot of wasted potential.
You aren't wrong, but for all of the nice parts, there was something shitty right around the corner to take a big dump all over the fun time you may have been having.
I haven't played SM, ORAS or XY yet and I never will
I still enjoy the games. Better singleplayer story than the last one.
Really riding on Takao Unno directing USUM though.
They actually improved the VGC meta a lot, they just don't give a fuck about Smogon's meta
Must be the same person. Two people with such shit opinions posting so close to each other is too much of a coincidence.
but you are wrong lmao
Yeah dude, trainers in previous games were so hard, specially the ones with 5 magikarps, now that's what a I call a challenge.
Fuck off, in every games trainers either had 2 decent pokemon or 5 underleveled pieces of shit.
Reposting because why the fuck not.
Gen 7 is terrible. Everyone shits on me when I say this because they think I'm talking about the game itself, but no. I'm talking about the designs. I hate the new Pokémon. I didn't even finish S&M because of it, and I still lack the motivation to charge my 3DS and play it...
Just look at this shit, doesn't even resemble Pokemon in the slightest.
>B-but muh other dimension
I don't give a shit. This doesn't feel like Pokémon anymore. I started losing interest the second I saw that fucking jellyfish appearing.
Some may argue that Pokémon has had shitty designs since Gen 1 like Ditto or Koffing or Dugtrio and shit, but you'd think that after 20 FUCKING YEARS they'd get actually GOOD at it. Hell, Gen 5 designs started to go downhill and they went right the fuck back at it in Gen 6 which was amazing. Except for Hoopa Unbound.
The point of Pokémon was to make BELIEVABLE fictional ANIMALS. I can totally believe a giant fucking scorpion like Drapion exists in a world like that, and that it was created by fictional nature. But... Fucking... A SAND CASTLE? Don't even try to compare that shit to Muk, it's fucking ridiculous. Then you have little shits like Togedemaru. I don't mind Pikachu clones but at least change the fucking name. I was a cringy Naruto kid back in the day so I know a lot of character names end in -Maru. Don't tell me that's not fucking Japanese. They just left it like that. Gen 7 was a lazy Gen.
I guess what I'm trying to say is I want Digimon to stay the fuck away from Pokémon. GameFreak is taking the franchise I swore blind love to when I was fucking 3 years old, and shits on it every year. It hurts, and I want my childhood back in the form of manchildhood.
I want to fucking kill myself. Thanks for reading my goddamn blog post.
I never thought I would miss weather wars.
I considered getting into VGC since I've never really played doubles, but then I saw pic related.
That's not saying much. VGC focuses specifically on the Pokedex you're allowed in the game, while Smogon actually focuses on the series as a whole. Smogon shows the amount of flaws Pokemon inherently has because there's too many of the fuckers
You have to be 18+ to post on Sup Forums
Dugtrio is to this day the single most retarded pokemon design.
Be underleveled when entering a new area
not an agrument tho
The meta has moved a lot since that, I gurantee
Reposting that you have no concept of what a digimon is and are using it as a generic buzzword catch-all for "somewhat more complicated design."
And you need to get over Pallosand, there's plenty of possessed objects and a carnivorous sand wraith is hardly the worst of them.
They're not all bad, the sand castle is alright. It's a ghost, it's not necessarily a creature created by "evolution." This gen gave me a couple of favorites like Golisopod and Minior. The ultra beasts are mostly pretty ugly, though.
I don't think I've ever been underleveled even with not using the exp share
>Minior
H A N G Y O U R S E L F
GOLDUCK??
>Araquanid
>Mimikyu
>A-Muk
At least something good thing that came from this game.
Leave it then, quit the games and play something you like.
I'm glad they came up with an excuse to make creative, strange designs outside of normal Pokemon in the Ultra Beasts, they're the best sublegends we've had in years.
>Drampa on winning team with no UB or Tapu
what the fuck
Just quit playing you retard.
The franchise is dead for the fags that started to play from the beginning. They are trying to modernize it to appeal to new generations.
Poni Island maybe? Lusamine was 41 and the first trainers you see after her are like 43, 44. My team wasn't even level 40.
Paired with peliper for a quick nuke with Swift Swim Hydrovortex.