Why does the remake look so much worse than the original? Is there any reason to even play this?

Why does the remake look so much worse than the original? Is there any reason to even play this?

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If you're a nostalgia fag then yes, the original looks better

entire style is gone and replace with that plastic garbage look of NSMB/3dworld

>original doesn't objectively look better
Just look at that cutscene alone. Having a tree in the way...

this

they tried to warm us

DISNEYFIED
NON-CREATIVE
NO RISK
EASIER DIFFICULTY
NEO NINTENDO
DOGSHIT

>nintendo will keep redrawing the tree from SM64 forever
>those trees are the most jarring part of SM64's graphics

why do they want to make that the "standard" tree so much? why does everything in mario games have to match the other unrelated games

mario64 ds?

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sm64ds at least added content. Just putting it out there.

Why are the right screens so dark and blue? It's like somebody slapped a day-to-night filter over them.

There's a lot that can go wrong with this jump from 2D to 3D

If they can't properly capture the emotions of the original game, then they shouldn't bother at all making this remake. The original was done with a lot of love and attention to sprites, if they just make it for the sake of having a 3D remake but scrape off all the faces you'd see on Cackletta, fawful, luigi and Mario and the rest, then why even bother?

And in all honesty, I'd play Mario&Luigi: Bowser's Minions if it was it own game entirely. There was so much potential for a standalone but i guess Myamoto doesn't give a shit

>3D

But it's not 3D? None of it is 3D. It's all sprites, sprites that are literally so good you cant help but think that they must be 3D.

siliconera.com/2013/07/03/mario-and-luigi-dream-team-development-prolonged-by-2d-animation/

Probably captured from the eshop. Every virtual console game has that cancerous filter over it

First game needed to exceed expectations to set the foundation for a series. Use of existing assets from the 3DS titles speeds up production time but requires all new things to look good with that.

>There's a lot that can go wrong with this jump from 2D to 3D

It's still 2D you blind buffoon.

gameplay vid please nigs

the redesign of nessie will never not make me mad

at least mario actually looks like he's puling the rope rather than having it hover to his side

>that shitty lighting on the remake

Holy fucking hell, Nintendo, disable scene lighting and use a global light source when rendering 3d sprites for 2d games for fucks sake.

but it looks better?
in all honesty, both have their charm and i wouldnt mind either version

Cackletta and Fawful look and act exactly like they should.

Have you ever made a game?

I didn't ask for a woman's opinion.

W-wow Bowser looks huge in this

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Let me lay it down for you idiots. The GBA version is the one that heavily emphasizes the kind of art style the devs originally wanted. It complemented the Bean Bean Kingdom and stood out as a different series. The remake is simply Super Star Saga but with the modern M&L skin that is more standard for the Mario series as a whole. It looks nice but either two are good for their different reasons.

>Have you ever made a game?
no, but im taking a unity course in college

Old Scuttlebug > New Scuttlebug

New Nessie > Old Nessie

the new nessie looks gay

>New Nessie > Old Nessie

>every creature should look like a gay yoshi

...it's female

Nintendo seems to think that the Mario series needs to have a uniform artstyle, and somehow sucking half of the personality of the M&L an Paper Mario games by making them look like NSMB is a high priority.

The old one looked retarded an out of place

the old one did too if I'm being honest

Looking at the difference between those two backgrounds fills me with disgust.

still the original has more personality then the second one
It doesnt matter if it is female or male

Who are you calling an idiot when you don't even realize nu-mario artstyle is trash

No that nessie goes with the game.
The 1990s style of mario 64
It goes perfect

The original looks like a female the redesign looks like yoshi's gay lover.

It doesn't. I wish mainline mario platformers looked like the m&l games. Anyone calling this nsmb-esque is a blind retard.

>sm64ds at least added content
The new stars are mostly silver star collection shit, some of the new worlds are alright and the multiple playable characters thing was fucking shit because the game wasn't built around that

>better lightning
>Bowser is huge now
The new artstyle is a mixed bag to be honest, everything looks like its made of clay but some of the areas look much better

>Have you ever made a game?
Please fuck off and never return

New is significantly better here.

maybe if you want mediocre creative direction
Non-difficulty
Non fun
uninspiring looking compared to the original

How have you not learned this yet? It's been 6 fucking years. We've been over it over and over and over.
3DS games all look like shit unless they're on the 3DS itself. You cannot take a screenshot or record a video that looks as good as the way it looks on the system's screen itself. Wait and see you shit stirring faggot.

>it goes with the game
Not really. It looks retarded.

if you take off Dorrie's goggles, do the eyes go back to being the ones from SM64?

No it goes with the game.

I do not want every game to look like NEW SUPER MARIO BROTHERS

>Non-difficulty

SuperStar Saga was literally the easiest in the series. If its more like the 3DS games it will actually be more challenging.

Do you purposefully miss the point so hard? I doubt you've been on Sup Forums for 6 years and still not learned a single damn thing. As evident by your irrelevant attached image. Learn how to crop.

When is this coming out?

I want super mario rpg difficulty.

I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games

October.

>but it goes with the game
Not really. It looks retarded

>the 3DS games it will actually be more challenging.
I pity your kind at this point. Don't forget to buy the included amiibos to show your support for this difficult version of SS

SMRPG was easy though? The most difficult parts came from having to use a dpad for platforming.

>Didn't even post the worst change

Mario 64 DS was a mistake

That's an interesting way to say literally nothing. Your post may as well be blank, you've strewn together a bunch of words but none of them mean anything.

Question mark
I bet your ass never played that game.

>I want super mario rpg difficulty.
super mario rpg wasn't very hard
>I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games
every entry after superstar saga is more difficult than it. superstar saga has the most simplistic enemy attack patterns and is horribly balanced to the point where you can one shot a lot of enemies.

Actually try playing them. In Paper Jam regular enemies will take off like 1/3rd of your HP with difficult to avoid multi-part attacks. Whereas in Superstar Saga they hit like a regular RPG so like 1/10th of your HP and they're slow and easy to avoid.

It'd help to upload the image.

Now in English?

can you just pick any of these games and play? or is there supposed to be some kind of epic crazy plot between games?

It looks not the same as new super mario brothers and that is better then any game that looks like new super mario brothers

Damn I can't believe they made Bowser actually look like Bowser.

>it looks not the same as
Okay. It looks retarded though.

Only some references, each one has its own plot. This upcoming game is a remake of the first one though, so you could start from it either way.

>SM64DS sucks because Bowser isn't a downs syndrome gay pride symbol anymore, it's not progressive enough

Lets not talk about the problem of non difficulty of games and talk about the english language.

Fuck off if you cannot argue your point

>I doubt the neo games are harder then the gba games
So you haven't even played them.
Each M&L is harder than the last with Paper Jam actually being pretty hard at points.

I'm not understanding your point because it isn't in English

What I think the word retarded means is failure to change the artstyle of a game that has been used for a decade

No one is shitting on the low resolution image looking poor when viewed on a monitor, nerd. Things like loss of expression and the change in art style can be viewed on any screen.

>Fuck off if you cannot argue your point
Take your own advice, you've made no point throughout the thread

Dream Team-esc Fawful looks great desu

Have we reached the point where nostalgia and retardation are so blinding on Sup Forums people pretend Super Mario RPG wasn't a complete cakewalk and Superstar Saga was harder than any later game?

first they took our rainbow bowser
then they took our rainbow stairs

don't tell me you actually wanted that fugly bowser remade with better graphics.

NOOOOOOO NOT THE RAINBOW STAIRS!!!!!!!! I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE RAINBOW STAIRS

okay, probably going to try one of the ds ones.

>but change in artstyle
It still looks retarded though.

>Why does the remake look so much worse than the original?
It doesn't.

Why is every thread about this game complete shit? It's the same goddamn arguments every single thread

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other than being on 3ds which is weak hardware unlike the n64 was at the time. And the removal of pre-rendered backgrounds I have no issue with the 3ds remakes of the n64 zeldas. What is this picture supposed to imply?

Most people say to play Bowser's Inside Story, but if you like dark Mario games, play Partners In Time.

They tried to warm us but all I feel is cold...

Meta posting should be a bannable offence desu

Don't get me started on the 3DS Zelda remakes.

Nintendo completely forgot about atmosphere and lighting in their later years.

64 Bowser had a model that matched the area he was in. It helped too add to the atmosphere; the platform was neon green and the skybox was purple and black clouds and since they couldn't rig the lighting to reflect those on Mario/Bowser, they changed Bowser's model entirely to fit the arena.

In the DS remake, and in the Zelda 3DS remakes, they threw all that shit out the window and presented it in a way that came off flat and bereft of mood.

He's right

green text where I said that bullcrap and I'll correct you on what I meant. I hate the artsyle of nu mario. He became the basic bitch of Nintendo now.

mario & luigi threads have been shit for ages as it's mostly just people whining at this point. occasionally you'll get a thread that actually has people discussing things about the games

for you

The remasters aren't done by Nintendo.

>they threw all that shit out the window and presented it in a way that came off flat and bereft of mood.

Nice lie

>posting the Wii U version

rainbow stairs are cooler

Why are you surprised? SSSfags have been pretending that every other M&L game is dogshit for years, of course they'll shitpost a remake at full force.

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