>dragon ball fans of all generations will enjoy DBFZ
>all generations
Just accept that GT and Super shit will get in already. As hard as this is to hear, there are people who grew up on GT and Super. Hell, there are people that actually like GT and Super. It's happening. Better prepare yourselves, Sup Forums. Prepare for Baby and Beerus.
Can we get Baby Beerus?
>Just accept that GT and Super shit will get in already.
But Golden Freeza was in since day one
>But Return of F is a DBZ movie!
Oh fucking please
Super maybe, GT yeah fucking right. No one but mexicans liked that garbage.
Reminder that GT Goku has more variations than Super Goku.
SSJ4 Gogeta has more variation than SSJB Vegito.
Omega Shenron has more variation than Beerus.
There will be at least 1 gt character. If you disagree you're just ignoring what the producer said and using mental gymnastics to exclude GT from "all generations."
Get fucked anti-gtfags
>Golden Frieza
>Beerus
Those are from this generation of Dragonball, and those are the only ones getting in.
Super is canon, GT is not since it literally goes againts Super
>GT is not since it literally goes againts Super
And Future Gohan literally goes against the Buu saga, yet he's still canon.
GT isn't canon because it was completely made by Toei, it not fitting the continuity isn't what makes it non-canon.
GT isn't canon and I doubt we'll see it. Super is totally possible but I predict that the only likely character from that would be Beerus
>inb4 BoG was technically Z
And its also technically Super
I'm a fan of DB but I know I won't enjoy DBFZ.
That didn't stop Xenoverse and Fusions to have material from both, and they're much more RPG than DBFZ
>GT is not since it literally goes againts Super
DBZ games don't care for canon.
you miss the point where GT doesnt exist anymore. Its not even a filler, the whole thing just got retconned with Super. That doesnt mean they cant be in the game as fanservice but they aren't part of any DB generation.
I like Super and I'm glad Beerus will be in and also hope Hit & Zamasu will be in too.
Deal with it.
Beerus started as a DBZ character. The movies being retrofitted to be part of the new series doesn't change the fact that he and Golden Freeza started out as Z content.
Again, DBZ games don't give a fuck about canon. Attack of the Saiyans had Broly show up for literally no damn reason. What-if stories are a huge part of DBZ vidya, specially fighters.
see Continuity doesn't mean anything. There was still a generaiton in the DB FRANCHISE where GT was popular and a thing. It also has characters that could add variety to the game. Excluding it just because there's a hate bandwagon is stupid considering Omega himself has more variety than literally every Super character shown thus far aside maybe Manga Merged Zamasu. It's a fighting game, they care about play style more than canon.
Ive just pointed out that just because they said there will be characters from every generation that doesnt mean that GT is in
DBFZ also wont be a raging blast /xenoverse like game with a hundred of slightly different characters but will probably only have around 30, so its much more unlikely that GT characters will take up space from that
Just picked up this game on Nintendo eshop, what should I expect?
I mean I hope at least gogeta ssj4 makes it
Pretty interesting game but a bit on the easy side unfortunately
>so its much more unlikely that GT characters will take up space from that
You acting as if GT will take a significant amount of space in the roster. They could limit it to just Omega/SSJ4 Gogeta/maybe Baby or Pan and you'd still have a decent representation for GT. There's absolutely no reason to exclude GT or any other DB series just because you or others don't like it.
>so its much more unlikely that GT characters will take up space from that
That's extremely flawed thinking. The producer herself stated they want characters that add variety to the game, AND they base character movesets off of their source material.
Try and come up with a roster of 24 characters(full select screen based on the e3 demo) with characters that are unique and bring variety. If you picked characters like Dabura, Ginyu, Yamcha, and 17 then you already failed as they have nothing over Omega Shenron in terms of play style variety.
>GT
Nobody likes GT even Toriyama doesn't
Z is shit too dumbass
Silly user. Its only a metter of time before they start promoting games with the debut of "Super Saiyan 4 Blue" or "Super Saiyan God Gold Oozaru".
The possibilities are endless.
My sister likes GT and has the DVDs
GT is actually superior to Super in all honesty. Super is pretty fucking bad. Like GT is shit too, no one is defending it, but super is REALLY fuckin bad, guy.
>even Toriyama doesn't
Nice lie with no source.
>inb4 there's an interview he says it somewhere, I just don't remember where.
Yamcha would be a great fit though. Dude has more than enough to fill out a decent moveset and niche.
Toriyama had input on GT, he just wasn't a director.
GT had some neat ideas. They were just done badly.
He wouldn't have retconned it away if he liked it
He liked Bardock enough to actually make him canon
if people didn't like GT then ssj4 gogeta wouldn't even be a thing right now in dokkan
>Dude has more than enough to fill out a decent moveset and niche.
No he actually doesn't. In the anime/manga he only has 3 techniques:
>Wolf Fang Fist
>Spirit Ball
>Kamehameha
He has little moves and his fighting style isn't unique enough to where it makes up for little moves. Every Z fighter has more techniques than him, I'm sure Chaozu does too.
Yamcha is one of the very last characters they would put on the roster as they would have to scrape up video game moves just to fill him up.
>Open game for the first time
>get Black right away
>And Future Gohan literally goes against the Buu saga, yet he's still canon.
How does Future Gohan contradict the Buu Saga?
Hi Juan
Fuck both GT and Super, just want to play as my nigga
>all of this unironic praise of anything dragon ball
its all shit you fucktard manchildren
it was only heralded as a classic because og db was a big spit in the face to the ccp
if you like z but hate gt/super, you are the worst kind of person
>He wouldn't have retconned it away if he liked it
That's a terrible argument. GT was always just a what-if like every other Toei creation. Bardock was the only exception:
He adored Bardock because it was something he would never make, it was too story driven and based on emotion and development.
>Gamescom on the 23rd - 26th
We'll finally get to see Piccolo and Krillin hopefully.
In Future Gohan's world there was no Majin Buu, and every Z fighter was dead. That goes against the Buu saga.
let's get rid of these filthy ningen
Post your Ideal Roster:
Heroes:
Goku
Gohan
Vegeta
Krillin
Picollo
Trunks
Gotenks
Tien
Yamcha
Great Saiyaman
Satan
Villains:
Raditz
Recoome
Ginyu
Frieza
Gero
18
16
Cell
Dabura
Majin Buu
Super Buu
DLC:
Omega Shenron
SSJ4 Gogeta
Broly
Janemba
Hit
Zamasu
DLC 2:
Roshi
Tao Pai Pai
Kid Goku (w/staff)
Pilaff Gang Mech
Ninja Murasaki
Yajirobe
>In Future Gohan's world there was no Majin Buu
There is. Its part of Super.
Also done in one of the PSP games.
Multiverse Theory
DBZ works on it
Pay attention to the story next time.
Future Trunks made sure Majin Buu was never released in Super as well
>missing the point this much
In Future Gohan's world there is no majin Buu.
In GT there is no SSJB.
The point here is that just because one timeline/universe/reality doesn't fit the main story, doesn't mean it's non-canon. GT is non-canon because it's Toei-made, not because it doesn't have SSJB.
Continuity=/=canon
It's actually been explained recently in Super that Buu just woke up much later in the Future timeline because they didn't use Gohan's ki to wake Buu up prematurely.
Trunks became an apprentice to Supreme Kai and stopped him, but Supreme Kai died in the process. It's the reason Future doesn't have Beerus or Whis to stop Zamasu.
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>In Future Gohan's world there is no majin Buu.
WATCH SUPER.
>still missing the point(?)
In the main timeline Majin Buu shows up when Trunks is 8 years old.
In Future Gohan's world babidi tries to make Buu appear when Trunks is well past 20 years old.
Meaning the Z buu saga doesn't follow the same story as the future buu saga, just like how gt doesn't follow the same story as Super. That isn't what decides canon.
The reason the Buu arc happened when it did in the main timeline is because Babidi was gathering an immense amount of ki to awaken Buu. They achieved that goal through Gohan going Super Saiyan 2 in the Buu saga.
In a world with far less population and only one base Super Saiyan running around it'll naturally occur later, his plans were slowed down.
I agree with you to an extent, because Dragon Ball is so littered with plot holes that using story contradictions to determine what's canon is a headache, but your specific example is a poor one.
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Trunks
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>18
>Gotenks
>Tien
vs
>Frieza
>Cell
>Fat Buu
>Kid Buu
>Janemba
>Broly
>Goku Black
>Beerus
>Hit
Objectively best 18-character roster based on play-style variety. Add your own dlc characters to fill up the max 24 slots.
>The reason the Buu arc happened
That's not the point. The point is that the future Buu saga is extremely different from the present Buu saga. I fucking know why Buu happened and why it didn't happen, everyone does. The point is that you can't call GT non-canon for not fitting into the main story, because continuity isn't what creates canon. If Toriyama made an alternate version of DB it would be canon, it just wouldn't fit into the original DB's continuity.
>GT isn't canon because no ssjg
That's not a valid reason.
>GT isn't canon because Toei made it
That's a valid reason.
Doesn't work the same with GT though, travelling through time distinctly causes splits in the timeline and that's the only thing that can make them
Nothing happened in the final few episodes that can cause a split in the timeline where GT becomes a possible source of canon
Goku/PC - Always the most powerful. Has a ton of techniques but his best ones anymore are stolen from other people.
Vegeta/PS4 - Never as powerful as above but is obsessed with being the prince of their kind. Has some really cool techniques that only they can use. Anger issues
Xbox 1/Gohan - Child of the first. Abused physically and emotionally by family as a child. Had huge potential at one point but a focus on family caused them to stop training.
Nintendo/Piccolo - Hasn't been as powerful as the above in a long time. Now they just show up when things get bad and they do a cool trick. Can seemingly recover from whatever harm they do to themselves. Great with kids
PS Vita/Trunk - Son of the second, showed up and seemed really cool at first but just kinda stuck around after that. Despite his efforts his father despises him. Leaves and likes to show up randomly at times.
Meant for
Isn't it just easier to say GT is another potential future and/or universe?
>Despite his efforts his father despises him.
This can't be anymore wrong.
see If toriyama officially made an alternate DB where Gohan dies on Namek, it would be canon to DB, just a different continuity.
I'm pretty sure that's the entire point now. GT was just Toei's take at a what-if sequel. It's not canon, but it's still there in the franchise. And now that Super is out, that's the official "sequel."
I was 10 when DBZ first aired back in 1998 here in my country, I grew up on DBZ and hated GT. But what's wrong with Super? It's pretty amazing IMO..
I'd prefer Shenron or Super 17 but Baby is cool too. GT may have been a bad show but the villains work perfectly fine in fighting game form where we can ignore the plot stuff.
I'm talking more along the lines of Future Trunks. Who I don't think vegeta showed much affection to at all
Super 17 is trash. I'd genuinely rather take Baby than him.
Did you miss Vegeta's completely enraged outburst at Cell for killing Trunks?
I really don't get the point of this argument. GT still existed as a show and is still going to be in the video games so it being non-canon doesn't really matter. They can retcon it all they want in the story but it's never going to disappear from the franchise itself so what does it matter?
Mexicans make up a bigger DBZ fanbase than Americans, you know that right?
>But what's wrong with Super?
Aside from the random plot and story direction that flanderizes every character?
The art direction and the animation are visually worse than GT. Yes it has those rare 10 second scenes that looks stunning, but those are rare. On average(first 70 episodes let's say) it looks worse than GT's average. GT never had fantastic highs, but it was consistent with a few fuck ups every now and again. Super is literally just fuck ups with highs, no inbetween.
Let's also not forget that GT is on model 90% of the time, characters in Super barely look like DBZ characters.
>Super 17 is trash
Regardless on how stupid his plot was, he has more techniques than normal 17 and is literally twice his size, he has much more potential for a fighting game than normal 17 does considering normal 17 is just reskinned 18 with an energy barrier.
Same deal with DBS
I just don't see why you're trying to use it to prove your point about fitting into the main story not mattering when it fits in perfectly fine. There's no question about it being canon, it's something that'd need to be addressed in all versions of the narrative and adheres to the lore established earlier in the series.
It does nothing to support your argument.
>Fags still bringing up canon in regards to a fucking fighting roster
Why does anyone think this matters? Broly manages to show up in nearly every DBZ game despite not being canon, even in ones that are direct adaptations of the series. It's a video game, the canon does not matter and they'll add whoever the devs and the fans want.
>grew up on Super
what a hilarious unintentional insult
DAN DAN
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>Why does anyone think this matters?
Haven't they specifically said that they're paying attention to canon?
KOKORO HIKARITEKU
The future events don't match up with present events.
The GT events don't match up with Super events.
Yet one is canon and one isn't? Why? Because one is made by Toriyama and one was made by Toei. That's all there is to it. Fuck the buu saga, fuck Trunks, fuck Babidi, the purpose of this conversation is that GT is non-canon because of its creators, not because of its story.
Piccolo and Kuririn reveal trailers when?
>Super Baby
>SSJ4 Goku/Vegeta
>Pan
>Omega Shenron
>Super 17
To be honest, I'd be happy with any of them. Super 17 is questionable, but the rest are pretty good.
I know the developers said they wanted unique characters, but I can't imagine they'd put Dabura or Dr.Gero over 17.
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Always Omega.
What about Eis or Nova Shenron?
>Vegeta
What like Final Shine and that's it?
>Pan
Less likely than Yamcha based on her movepool.
>specifically said that they're paying attention to canon
No. They pay attention to the source material and take into account how the character is story-wise. So if Krillin is weaker than Vegeta in the story, you know he won't punch harder than Vegeta in the game. They said nothing about filler and movie characters.
Where can I read the fan mangas like AF or some shit?
Why have 17 when you have 18?
shut up faggot
Omega is the Doomsday of DBZ (well, he or Broly really).
>GT
SSJ4 Goku
SSJ4 Gogeta
Pan
Omega Shenron
>Super
SSJB Goku
Caulifla
Hit
Jiren
The problem is if you're putting in 18 then 17 has really nothing unique to work with in the source material. Despite being around for most of the series neither of them really have that many unique or interesting attacks. Super 17 actually has a lot of potential but I don't know how likely he would be over regular 17.
>I can't imagine they'd put Dabura or Dr.Gero over 17.
I can see them putting in Dabura, he has more stuff than 17. but Gero ONLY has energy stealing and eye lasers. He doesn't even have normals. He's never getting in over characters that don't need a majority of made up/video game moves.
Ignore that user's roster, it's been trash since the minute he first posted it like a week ago.
Just give me Hit and Beerus
I know they have pretty similar movesets and appearances, but 17 is pretty popular, even more so with his reappearance in Super. They did say that popularity was a factor too.
Why not both? Same specials with different properties, different normals and supers.
>SSJ4 Goku
>SSJ4 Gogeta
>SSJB Goku
Fucking stop. They've already said they won't be doing this.
GT:
>SSJ4 Gogeta (with Goku and Vegeta combined movesets)
>Omega Shenron
Super:
>Hit
>One of the Zamasus (Black is the most popular one, but in the manga Merged Zamasu is every movie villain combined into onebullshit desu)
Those are your reps for GT/Super. Super is most likely to get both, but GT may get only one, so pick wisely.
17 and 18 are mostly the same and only have like a handful of difference. At most they should be interchangeable skins
No they said they're pulling from the source material i.e. the manga, anime, movies, etc. They're not gonna restrict themselves strictly to the canon, it would severely limit what they could do for a lot of characters.
Clones are one of the most widely disliked things in any fighting game
Shit people are against Goku Black being in the game just because he looks like Goku disregarding he fights completely differently.