Jack Marston

Why did they have to make him so outrageously ugly? It made playing as him kind of a drag

WERK YA DAMN NAG

He's not ugly per se, but he definitely looks like a greasy Mexican

ma'am

fpbp. The voice acting was the issue.

I never got this. What the fuck is a nag?

Everyone in RDR was ugly. Rockstar really doesn't like to make good looking male characters for some reason.

When he's younger he's actually pretty cool and dramatic looking. I don't know why they made him look so greasy when hes older

I found it more strange that he wore his dead fathers clothing.

Everyone was ugly in the old west.

A sickly/skinny horse.

John Marston wasn't ugly. He was very ruggedly handsome.

>having a dad that awesome
>not wanting to emulate him

The only thing I wouldn't do is marry a prostitute, but that's just me

To show how he was embittered and jaded ever since his father died at the hands of the government.

Didn't she fuck everyone in his gang, too?

If Jack Marston was just as handsome and cool as John Marston, the postgame would lose its impact.

This was completely intentional. You're not supposed to like Jack. Everything about him is supposed to remind you that John is dead and make it hurt more.

Yep, sucked their syphilitic dicks and all.

this made no sense at all

>kid is quiet, likes to read books, intellectual, father tells him not to be an outlaw
>in the span of just 3 years he gets amazing gun skills, riding skills, lives the outlaw life

How? How did his personality change so dramatically, and how did he pick up so many skills in just 3 years?

>that clear step down as you go from the manliest of all men to generic angsty teeny shit

I dropped the game right there.

John deserved a better son.

Christ, John was such a cuck.

ugly history, ugly character, ugly appearance

because he became everything john didn't want him to be.


ITS DEEEEEEEEEP.

I mean, if my father was killed by feds even after doing everything for them I would also become a criminal.

But I actually liked Jack. He had a lot of witty comments when doing stuff, plus I like his story (his father being killed makes him a cynical and jaded outlaw).

Fuck him being ugly, why did they force you to play as him after beating the fucking game?
Jack was THE worst thing about the game.

His face was literally just a retexture of John's.

have they said what time period RDR2 will take place in? I'd kill for a post-civil war setting.

The voice didn't get age at all either taking John's most notable aspect with him to the grave.

Life is a bit more complex than that. I mean yeah no fucking way would I do it but it hurts that the cuck meme has made everyone so bitter. I liked John and his wife's relationship.

He goes and trains with landon ricketts

Its prequel to RDR so 15-20 years before which would be the late 1880s or early 1890s.

Yeah, it'll be after the civil war, because otherwise the weapons would suck.

I like Jack too, as his own character, but I vastly prefer John.
There's clear examples of instances where Jack does things that are intended to just remind the player that they're not playing as John anymore. The "work ya damn nag" quote is one of the most obvious examples because John treats horses extremely well, even being kinder to them than most people he encounters. John kills a lot of people without hesitation, but killing a horse will pretty much always get John to say how fucked up he thinks he is on the spot.

>John actually berating Abigail on almost every aspect a wife knew back then
>still love each other anyway

Wish my parents weren't complete assholes and actually put up with each other.

Why did John hate Uncle so much?

Well yeah, they had a good relationship but it doesn't change the fact that John married the village's bicycle.

because he was a cantankerous old prick.

Landon is possible, but also remember that before John died he spent time dragging Jack around hunting and riding and ranching and such. It's not like he doesn't know how to do those things.

This game didn't need an unhappy ending. Why can't they just have made it that John lives happily ever after with his family? I know a theme of the game is "the wild west is dying" but I dont think John had to die to communicate that. I thought it was needlessly depressing and it would have been more profound had he gotten his redemption and was finally able to live peacefully

>mfw I kill every enemy horse and skin their hides to sell them even though money doesn't mean shit in Rockstar games

It was amazingly cool in undead nightmare, how when you beat the storyline, John comes back as a zombie and that's how you can play

I love it when open world games have creative stuff like this to justify playing after the story is over

Plenty of people marry sluts. It's not quite the same thing as letting somebody fuck your wife while you're still married. John isn't a "cuck" despite the memeshit propensity to label him as one. John already ends up killing the rest of the gang, but can you imagine his fury if he found out someone had been fucking her while she was captured?

im so excited for RDR 2 man

The should have made him look cooler. I think its his hair that makes him look gross

His redemption or lack thereof was in how the player wanted to play. It's literally the only Rockstar game where I don't go on a rampage because the narrative fits with wanting to straighten up and fly right.

Because Uncle is extremely lazy. John is almost diligent to a fault.

To be fair, mostly everyone had gross hair. Ever play any of the gambling games in multiplayer as Red? He looks like shit without a hat

Avenging him as Jack Marston was pretty cool though

I like how in the gubmint still came to kill John after he stopped the zombie apocalypse

Jacks was decent when he was yonger, not as nasty looking. But I guess that was a way for them to age him.

It was a pretty neat way to end the game but then after about 10 minutes you just want to play as John again and regret finishing the game because now you're stuck with Jack for any post-game stuff you missed.

forgot pic

I thought it was a good ending, but I didn't get much satisfaction out of the revenge itself.

Seeing that the guy had retired and was just living quietly in the countryside with his wife made it feel like it was just another bitter notch in the cycle of vengeance.

I mean he also wasn't pissy and on a mission to kill a big government boy. It's only been a few years between John's death and his quest for vengeance, he just let himself go

>Seeing that the guy had retired and was just living quietly in the countryside with his wife made it feel like it was just another bitter notch in the cycle of vengeance.

That was literally the point user.

It felt completely hollow, which I guess is the point. That final duel is a fucking joke. There's no epic battle against 20 guys. No public assassination. Nothing. You go murder an old man out on a hunting trip in bumfuck nowhere Mexico. But it makes sense because even if you did have some epic shootout, it wasn't going to change the way people remembered John Marston. There would be a few, like Bonnie, that would remember him as a hero, but most would still just think he was another dumb outlaw that rightfully got served by the law. John didn't need the "redemption" that Jack could provide. John didn't die a hero, but for a while he lived as one. To the people that he saved, he will stay that way.

I gave no fucks. I killed that asshole for breaking his word. First playthrough I let the rest of his family live out of good will but then I killed them all on the second to really double down on the vengeance.

I'm aware. Was trying to say that I wouldn't really describe it as a "cool" sequence.

Just kind of grim.

>See you around, Mr. Marston...

>S O D O M I Z E D

>kicks the dirt as she says this

If John wasn't loyal and didn't have a family he would have married her.

Did anyone else just shoot his wife immediately after talking to her? I actually surprised myself with how few reservations I had.

>tfw no cowgirl gf

What?

>John is never home
>His wife is home all day
>They live within walking distance of mexico
>John's wife was a trollop
>Jack doesn't look anything like John
>He does look like a beaner
The cuckcart phenomenon is not a recent problem. It is only a matter of time before they start putting them in vidya. Just look at this shit Sup Forums. It's only a matter of time.

Anyone want to play multiplayer on 360?

The shit is full of hackers who are under the map and kill you instantly it's dead

So you dropped the game at the end then? Oh you missed a single mission, you rlly showed rockstar didnt you?

The fuck is a cuck cart?

>walking distance of mexico

I'm sure there's some kinda measurement of how many miles RDR map is but I'm too lazy to look.

You are setting yourself up for disappointment

I dont think the mexican dude impregnated Abigail, he maybe fucked her, just like all of dutch's gang, but I dont think
also did abortions and that sort of stuff exist in the 1900s?

Did wire hangers and stairs exist in the 1900's? I'm pretty sure back alley abortions were a thing and there were always alternatives to that.

>also did abortions and that sort of stuff exist in the 1900s?
Yeah, they used these to do it.

Killing Ross and making Jack into a piece of shit criminal undoes everything John did to try and redeem himself.

I'm sure we could fill a lobby if we turned that pessimism into optimism.

>the one man she would have gladly married in a heartbeat is already taken

This damn game man.

well, if that's the case then Abigail just killed the babies and then settled down with John
yeah, I think it would have been cool if you had the chance to shoot Ross' gun and show him you're not like your father

Which is, by default, hideous

Fuck Ross.
The only thing he deserved was a slow and painful death.
Jack is a saint for ending it in an honorable duel.

>John Marston's kid shot that old retired cop that finally brought down his daddy, what a horribel little shit!
Ross is only a bad guy to the Marston family, everyone else thinks he did nothing wrong

i might be interested, since i'm currently replaying it.

dont have a subscription and i dont want to waste money on a 1 month sub to play a few days with an user, though.

Seriously this game didnt need such an unhappy ending

It would have been so satisfying for John to be reunited with his family. I was practically in tears when you finally were able to ride back to your family, and that song was playing, and everything seemed alright. And I loved those simple missions with Abigail and Jack, where you were having conversations and connecting with them

Doesn't resolve shit or warrant anything worthy of note if he just got away with it. The GTAV easter egg implies he straightened up after he killed Ross and wrote a book. Does anyone know if Jack stayed with Abigail up until she died then buried her himself or left home before she died only to come back and nurse her in her final days? I assume Jack had to have left home to learn how to become a son of a bitch to kill Ross.

RDR Multiplayer on 360 has been broken for years m8

>Seriously this game didnt need such an unhappy ending

john dying is less an unhappy ending and more symbolic of the end of the wild west as the federal government finally tames it.

i'd say it's almost like the end of the tokugawa shogunate, aka the fall of the samurai, in that it's about the end of an era.

I think that one guy that was Ross' subordinate should have got some comeuppance too. Last time I played RDR I got to Mexico then stopped because I've got a backlog and I wanted to work on it. Maybe I should chug through it and get to Blackwater.

>The GTAV easter egg implies he straightened up after he killed Ross and wrote a book.
is it actually true that RD and GTA share the same universe?

>post yfw your father isnt john marston

what's going on here

Maybe?

>he doesn't go on Sup Forums for the weird movie recommendations

Eva Green's boyfriend died she has him cloned then raises him and fucks him when he's older.

>Eva Green's boyfriend died she has him cloned then raises him and fucks him when he's older

we're hitting weimar levels of degeneracy.

WEW

That's...
That's kinda hot.

...

Name of the movie?

GUYS PLS WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT FATHER ISSUES NOT /ss/ MOTHERSON INCEST

Didn't cross my mind.

I wasn't sure what to do in multiplayer.

Felt like whenever I started it up I'd appear in a semi-empty area before immediately getting sniped.