"If Cloud is in Smash, then Goku has a chance now"

>"If Cloud is in Smash, then Goku has a chance now"
What made people believe this?

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Pointy hair.

First they said Sonic would never be in Smash.
Then they said Cloud would never be in Smash.
Now they say Goku will never be in Smash.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Man i feel empty now that i've finished Legend of The Galactic Heroes

>What made people believe this?

Why not? Cloud has NOTHING to do with Nintendo and there he is.

It's because Goku has nothing to do with video games. Sakurai himself said this.

shrek 4 sm4sh switch when?

>Cloud has NOTHING to do with Nintendo and there he is
>early FF was exclusively released for the NES & SNES
>Cloud's part of FF series

just because mainline FF from 7 onwards didn't make it on a nintendo console doesn't excuse the fact that the companies had a good history. Cloud just happened to be the most popular & legible choice, whether you agree to that fact or not.

& with DB/DBZ also having a long history with Nintendo, I honestly wouldn't be surprised by this point. It wouldn't even be weird.

Honestly, Luffy has a better shot of making in in there than Goku.

Blistering stupidity.

Yeah, its Lucario

Idiots. Idiots believe that. Cloud is a video game character first. Goku is not.

>FF I through VI were Nintendo exclusives
>FF VII was the controversial game that was supposed to come out on N64 but never did
>the very first line Cloud says in the reveal trailer is "Never thought I'd see the day..."
Man, what reason could they have POSSIBLY had to put Cloud in Smash? I swear to god, this is one mystery that will forever remain unsolved...

Japan would probably sooner choose Goku over most Western vidya, for both better and worse.

Because Goku isn't even a video game character to begin with. At least Final Fantasy started with Nintendo, Cloud just happens to be the most popular character of the franchise and therefore was an easy choice.

Goku had his own video game on the Nes. Since cloud had cameos in some Nintendo games by square, seemed kinda stupid to add him because the fans like him so much. Basically since cloud is a dumb addition might as well go full retard and add goku. Despite their origins.

to add to this, if they wanted to make a ff character appear in smash they should have done is make a duck hunt clone and make the dog a chocobo and the duck a moogle and have them cast spells from the series, and for their final smash summon knights of the final fantasy meaning all of the FF mcs and finished it with a fat chocobo landing on tip of the enemy.

you're dumb

But then we wouldn't have spiky haired anime swordsman #45634782593406054173219103781

I dunno, maybe they saw Solid Snake make it in and thought he'd have a chance, even though he was only there for ONE game I'm still angry

So what you're saying is that Travis could be in the next Smash

Can they put in the Goddess as well now?

>This thread forgetting about the 21324 DB games
>Goku is loved by everyone and was at the Olympics

Anyone not wanting Goku in this game is nofunallowed.jpg He's perfect for this game and has worldwide acclaim. Snake/Cloud make less sense than Goku in my mind.

I am a bigger One Piece fan than DBZ but Luffy isn't as prominent nor has he had as many games.

lol no

>What made people believe this?
Being ten

>“In all seriousness, next time he does decide to go and make a Smash Bros. game, I’m seriously going to tell him, ‘Put in Travis Touchdown. Come on, put him in the game.’ So every time we talk about this, partially in the middle he listens, he starts to laugh, and that laugh trails off into, ‘ha ha…’. This time Sakurai-san, I’m not going to let you go. You’re not getting away.”

>Goku is loved by everyone and was at the Olympics

That doesn't sound very fair. I thought Goku liked a challenge.

their unchecked autism, they would make themselves believe anything because they secretly want the character very badly

Travis' time to shine, bay bee!

Kratos and Master Chief confirmed for Smash 5?

I'd be all for it but honestly unless the upcoming game becomes huge for some weird reason all we can expect is a Mii Swordfighter costume.

DBZ games are better than FF games and actually get Wii ports

Even if that were true Goku's still not a video game character.

does anyone else think that one of the reasons they made ARMS was so that they could put a dhalsim-like character in smash

I still miss Snake. Sm4sh just doesn't feel complete, there's a void.

Cloud appeared on a GBA game.

sorry I don't like your spiked haired swords man

a cameo wow

not even Sakurai can fix her >no ass

Who fucking hype for Smash 5?

>More Anime Swordsmen
>Inkling
>Colgate Man
>Goku
>Spongebob

Add Sora in too.

>More Anime Swordsmen
Patrician taste. I'd rather 10 FE and more FF swordsmen over gimmick characters like WFT, DHD etc.

Not to mention that he has always been one of the most downloaded SSBB mods too. Cloud was too.

Kid Goku would actually be a pretty decent fit for a Smash game

>hurr hur
great response

Goku is not video games

clouds not nintendo

Still video games

As soon as Snake was announced everyone expected Sonic.
When i heard Namco was developing Smash 4 i expected Pacman.

Then why is Solid Snake in Brawl?

MGS is a video game

goku has been appearing on nintendo consoles for longer than most of the franchises featured in smash have existed

Cloud in Smash is the equivalent of Big Daddy in PSASBR

Both featured on different consoles

That's the joke.

Bioshock was on the PS3, 360 and PC. FFVII is famous for being on the PS1.

It released first on 360 and PC and released on ps3 towards end of its life.

No, it released in 2007 for the PC360 and 2008 for the PS3. FFVII was one of the quintessential PS1 exclusives and has only ever been released on PC and iOS much later. It's never had a Nintendo release and is MUCH more different than big Daddy.

i stand corrected. cloud in smash was a retarded move. getting sick of sakurais anime fetish

He's fun to play as and a great rep for FF in Smash.

I'd also take more "anime swordsmen"
over crappy characters like Wii Fit Trainer,
Villager etc.

That would be a bit awkward, Minerva only appeared in Crisis Core.

Villager is a surprisingly fun character with the Pocket shenanigans. Really entertaining for casual play, but I agree that the Trainer being included because "no one would expect her" was pretty fucking retarded.

wii fit trainer was a good and relevant addition fuck you

>a great rep for FF in Smash.
He has nothing to do with nintendo. The remake isn't even releasing on any of their consoles.

>good and relevant
Care to explain? Especially the relevant part.

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K so you wouldnt mind goku then

Wii Fit/Sports brands are a huge nintendo franchise. They added them tastefully (ie in a way that was entertaining and unique).You retards give Cloud a free pass even though he has nothing to do with nintendo but a huge nintendo franchise you treat with disdain

>goku did not originate from a videogame >therefore goku will not fight with nintendos most iconic characters

screencap this and hang it on your wall forever

Neither did Snake

But he is from Metal Gear on MSX?

i hope so if it means there will be another smash

rip little mac

Snake Plissken doesn't count.

Did they not say anything goes during the vote they held?

sourcegaming.info/2015/10/05/sakuraithirdparty/

>“Manga characters will not join the battle (obviously)."

Sakurai also claims that characters like Goku and Spongebob are "impossible" here:

sourcegaming.info/2015/03/22/mewtwo-dlc-takamaru-and-sakurais-nico-nico-appearance/

At the end of the day, Sakurai has one golden rule when it comes to including characters into Smash: they have to originate from a video game. It's literally the one thing every character in Smash Bros. has in common. As long as he's around, Goku will never be included.