Thinking about getting into this series, but there's a million games in it. What should I play, what should I skip?

Thinking about getting into this series, but there's a million games in it. What should I play, what should I skip?

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Release order, all of them, from the beginning

Get the trilogy. First game is a bit rough around the edges, but 2 and 3 are the best in the series.

Just play them in order of release or skip the first game entirely if you don't really give a shit about the story.

Release order, but you can sub the first game for the ps4 remake.

So, this order.

Ratchet & Clank
Going Commando
Up Your Arsenal
Tools of Destruction
Quest for booty
A Crack in Time
Into the Nexus

I heard the PS4 remake changes a bunch of shit and is a lot worse.

don't play the 2nd one
absolute garbage
prove me wrong

Get the HD Collection, Deadlocked (best on PS2) and Future Tools of Destruction and Crack in TIme. After that, drop the series

There are story changes. If you go from the remake to the second game you're going to be pretty confused.

No you fucking can't, the PS4 remake is dogshit compared to the original.

youtu.be/3kD_QhYgIA4

The gameplay is WAY better.

It cut some areas from the first game, combined some others, but the gameplay improvements alone make it worthwhile, easily. The first game has the worst gameplay of the series by a huge margin and got revamped for every game afterwards.

lol this is the video that made me wanna get into the series.

>lets listen to some retard online and show i'm right with muh youtubers
kill yourself faggot

Just play the PS2 games and maybe some others.

>Ratchet & Clank
>Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando
>Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
>Ratchet Deadlocked (Optional)
>Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time (Optional)
>Ratchet & Clank PS4 (Optional)

Everything else is gay and sucks shit. The series had it hard after the PS2. In my correct opinion

>Deadlocked
>Best in the series
I mean if you only like the combat, sure. It's completely devoid of the charm and great humour though.

He should just read the story summary from the first one on wikipedia and then actually just play the remake.

Probably a much better experience overall.

Gameplay is better, the story and character writing is way worse.

MUST PLAY:
>1
>Going Commando
>Up Your Arsenal
>Tools of Destruction
>A Crack in Time
>Into the Nexus

SKIPPABLE, BUT YOU MAY STILL ENJOY THEM:
>Deadlocked
>Size Matters
>Secret Agent Clank
>Quest 4 Booty
>All 4 One
>Full Frontal Assault
>R&C 2016

The story wasn't anything special in the first place.

Later games handled story much better than the first, too.

I should add that honestly I think ToD is dogshit but it's important to the plot. 2016 might be necessary depending on the future of the series.

That's quite a bit of work just to get into a family friendly game series.

>a valid critique of a shit remake?
>on youtube?
>reeeeeeEEEEEEEEE

Reading a story summary that probably takes 4 minutes at the absolute most and then playing a video game?

Come on.

>valid critique
>opinion
hmmm

It's not a remake, it's a retcon of the first game.
Only good thing about it is the gunplay and graphics, everything else is shit.

It's a comparison video, dingus. There is plenty of objective and reasoned points made in it.

He didn't mean Deadlpcked was the best Ps2 ratchet, he meant that the Ps2 version is much better than Ps3 Deadlocked which is a buggy mess. Mostly visual bugs, so it's not broken, but it does partially ruin the experience.

My bad user. Mis-interpreted the post.

Deadlocked came after Up your arsenal

Has less planet, comedy is worse, characters are worse, story is worse, it has less to do, and the levels are sometimes worse than the original, and the 3 levels added by the remake are absolute dogshit.
It's also way too easy in comparison

The only reason it's easier than the original is because the original lacked all the shit that let you actually maneuver and fight well all the other games had.

This. It was really useful of TGB to make a 90 minute video on something that can be summed up in one sentence.

And more guns that can become more powerful. And more health. And armour upgrades.

The only thing it lacks is strafing and the health and weapon upgrades.
Ratchet and Clank 2 and 3 are still somewhat hard games despite having the additions I listed, so why I R&C2016 so easy that I could beat it in 5 hours on my first try, with almost every gold bolt

>Missing planets
>Ratchet is now a wide-eyed naive kid instead of a teenage streetwise dick
>Clank is barely there and has next to no interaction with Ratchet, they just become instant best friends with no conflict.
>Quark's betrayal and redemption happens way too quickly
>Nefarious shoehorned into the game at the last minute with no build up
>Soundtrack that sounds like a generic film score

Size matters is bad, secret agent clank is bad. Skip those.

Quest for booty is also bad, skip it. It is the most boring of the series.

2, 3, and crack in time are the highlight of the series.
But play them in order.

Try to play deadlocked on an ps2 or emulate it with an emulater that doesnt fuck up with ratchet and clank games.
It is a really bad port on ps3, but it is playable.

Though go ahead and get that hd trilogy collection, it is good.

>crack in time
>optional
The o ny trully good ratchet game when he went past the ps2, dont you tarnish the rest of your good taste, its a must buy because its essentialy just r&c2 but on the ps3

>there's a million games in it
No there isn't. This isn't even a good hyperbole.
>What should I play
Just the first 3 in sequential order.

either skip 1 entirely or play it first because you won't like it after seeing the other improvements
2 and 3 are a must
then play ACiT and maybe quest4booty
if you want more modern gameplay play into the nexus and the 2016 remake, if you want more classic (you should) go and play deadlocked

this guy is trashing on the game because "the story isn't the original at all!11" he's a delusional idiot driven by nostalgia for his "childhood game that wasn't actually that good".
the story in both of them is fucking bad, and yes, the remake's is significantly worse. however, the gameplay in the remake undoubtedly better, so why the fuck do i care? even with the shitty 30fps, it still plays a lot better than the original. i won't even deny that the animations from the original are charming, and some of the subtle things that the original has are cool, but to value any of that over the gameplay is retarded.

The gameplay isn't a whole lot better in the remake. It's piss easy. I died a lot in the original, but in the remake you have so many overpowered weapons and so much health that nothing is a challenge. Gameplay alos isn't the only thing that matters. Art style, atmosphere, music, story, and animations can greatly affect the feel of the game. Imagine something like Sonic CD with no music or crazy enviroments.

and the weapons fucking sucked wheres my tesla claw bug with upgrades

the game's in that collection are the only good ones.

Gunplay was better, thats it.

That is a huge part of the game, do not get me wrong.

But the original had more worlds and the worlds in general had more paths and secrets.

Characters were also just better in the original. Even if ratchet was an asshole, you saw him grow up. Ratchet 2016 was just a naive nerd kid the whole time.

I think the worst thing was the difficulty.

Ratchet 2016 was really easy. Just way to easy. The original had moments where you really had to think about how you would progress. Places like orxon (as ratchet), oltanis orbit base, and especially the last world were really challenging in a good way. You had to adapt with the challange.

The most important, most definite reason why original is better than ratchet 2016 is that the hoverboard girl's tits do not get bigger when you do flips. I mean really what the fuck was this shit. Ratchet 2016 is a straight -2/10 because of this. Actually no, make that a -20/100, no good at all.

Tesla claw bug?
What is that?

I meant to say but

I think OP should go for it if he liked the PS2 games. I didn't include Tools of Destruction because that game felt like some weird growing pains by them jumping from the PS2 to PS3. Crack in Time tried something different and it was pretty cool.

Skip A4O, FFA, and maybe Size Matters.
Ignore bandwagoners who tell you skip 2016.

I thought ToD was okay. Other then some early PS3 game syndrome (Sixaxis) requirements.

ToD might just be the most "okay" game ever made.

There's also those awkward cutscenes where the characters stand there stiffly and talk and they don't even look at each other

I think you can play without six axis. It is really easy though, you just use the analog stick.

Wtf even was the point of sixaxis? What game past the few first years of ps3 even used six axis? It was such a weird gimmick that no one used.

I still don't understand:
Should I watch the movie or play the PS4 game first? I hear they are connected and interlap with each other's timeline. Sounds confusing.

The game is ultimately an extended tie-in to the movie.

What does that mean? Will the game spoil the movie? Or will the movie spoil the game?

Play all of them, but you can skip these:

>Secret Agent Clank
>All 4 One
>Full Frontal Assault
>Deadlocked

all 4 one is the only title i'd specifically say "do NOT play" because A it's online co-op and probably dead as fuck, and B it's just a really shitty game.

only mandatory games imo are the HD trilogy, Size Matters, Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty and Crack in Time.

You can play Into the Nexus if you want after ACIT but fair warning, Crack in Time is where the series peaks in pretty much every way and ITN/PS4 reboot (while perfectly okay games) do not reach that level.

Both, it's the exact same story. The game's cutscenes are just ripped from the movie

Both are inferior to the original game's story which had development and purpose to the main characters. The remake doesn't care and neither get to really know each other

The game follows the plot of the movie but uses levels and areas from the original game that aren't seen in the movie.

Some weapons were more effective with it.

It really does sound weird. I'll just watch the movie first and figure out what was spoiled for me from the game.

The movie was completely manhandled by Rainmaker. You're better off just playing the game.

>make a movie about a game where a furry and a robot use guns
>barely uses guns in the movie

> Deadlocked (optional)
Neck yourself my man.

I haven't played any R&Cs except the PS2 ones but the way he talks like the reboot ruined Ratchet is dumb, Going Commando was the game with the huge shift in Ratchet's personality. He's a different character in the original compared to the sequels and even has a different voice actor, the reboot is not at fault for doing what all the other games before it did as well.

as someone who platinumed the game and saw the film in theaters, allow me to explain

>The Movie
big piece of shit with heavy rewrites, originally TJ fixman was on board with the project but (keeping in mind this is a Sony film) left midway due to creative differences. The end result is a film with all the flavor of a wheat thin cracker. There are almost no actual jokes in the entire film, and many of the comedic moments are reused as cutscenes in the game anyway.

The ending of the film is bumfuck retarded too.

>The Game
Mechanically, probably the best gameplay since Crack in Time. All the signs of Insomniac love and care are accounted for here. It's a lot of fun to play. However, as a big R&C fan I didn't like what they did to the lore of the series. Also if you are someone with autism who will be like "Wtf is a Grummelnet weapon doing in Gadgetron's catalog?" you will be driven mad because the weapons are just a hodgepodge of stuff from prior games sold through Gadgetron vendors.

In terms of similarities, the game uses the plot of the movie (qwark narrating his downfall to someone in prison) as a framework but only ever resembles the film during the cutscenes using clips of it.

The endings of the game and movie totally diverge as well, with the film ending with a robot Nefarious tease.

tl;dr the film is shit, the game is good because of its gameplay, but the plot and characters suck in both

I just wanted the first game but with better graphics, strafing, and the original weapons with upgrades instead I got a movie tie in game

I love this series but I dropped it after 30 minutes too. It's an insult.

They literally advertised it as "the game based on the movie based on the game"

Deadlock is pure gunplay (which I fucking loved). Probly the best gunplay in the series.

Wish we could get another deadlocked type game. Maybe one where we can make our own arena fights too.

I loved it but let's be honest here. It's not everyone's cup of tea. By optional I mean if he liked 1-3 he should play those as well. Now go fuck yourself you fucking little bitch for trying to shit talk me.

Deadlocked is only optional if you're the type of R&C player who doesn't like the arena battles.

Which is weird, because they're some of the best parts of the game. Why would you play Ratchet and Clank if you don't like the combat?

I play every game with as much wrench play as possible. It's my favorite thing, especially with the boomerang option. At some parts it's literally impossible though.

The wrench became more contrived in each subsequent games.

First game? Makes perfect sense.
Second and third game? Why would a better wrench do more damage? That's a little strange and out of place.
Deadlocked? What the fuck, why is he given a wrench for fucking gladiatorial combat?

This is with no nostalgia goggles on.

Play the remake, then the PS3 games
Tools of Destruction
(Quest for Booty)
Crack in Time
Into the Nexus

The original trilogy were good for the time, but...
The first one aged very very poorly.
The second one has some downright trash shit like ass boss design, halting the story to grind crystals (not once, but twice), a character that fucked up the story so it was retconned, the story is basically just going from A to B and watching a recorded cutscene where someone tells where to go next, etc. Vastly overrated game.
Third one is good, but is a bad entry point into the series.

You do not want to listen to the people with massive nostalgia goggles on that tell you to only play the original trilogy.

>the sweet sound of space frogs popping at Blarg Station
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>listening to some retarded youtuber instead of forming your own opinion

Well done retard.

I beat the original trilogy just a few weeks ago and it was fine. Shut the fuck up.

>The first one aged very very poorly
it really didn't though you just come back to it after after playing the later ones and you can't get into because there's no stafing even though it wasn't designed around the strafing mechanic.

kill yourself

>Second and third game? Why would a better wrench do more damage?

Is this seriously one of your complaints? Not only is that petty but I can shit out tons of reasons right now, like them having more mass.

Like I said, as much as possible. In later games I either couldn't avoid taking damage at some parts or I had to take out enemies who were too far away.

The sounds and the OST was the best in the first one.

>I beat the original trilogy just a few weeks ago and it was fine. Shut the fuck up.

Ignoring all the flaws and can't even form counter arguments? Nice.
I mean you're fine to have that opinion, but you sure as fuck can't convince anyone with that.

That's not the only thing that aged.

These are the kind of people I'm talking about, the people you should ignore. These are the kind of people that prefer to feed people lies just to stay in their nostalgia bubble.

Friendly reminder
3>1>DL>2
You cannot contest this. Going Commando is shit and the definition of "growing pains" in a franchise.

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What else aged

>someone goes through the games detailing the differences
>you agree with these observations and opinions and decide linking a mildly entertaining video is preferable to autistically explaining your problems with the game yourself
>autists reee over the fact you linked a youtube video instead of making any valid argument or even posting their opinion on the subject in the OP

Stop being cancer.

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The original is still very fun to me and has the best soundtrack by far. And I like Ratchet's original voice. I don't think anyone should skip it.

>The sounds and the OST was the best in the first one.

That's highly detabtable. All of the games have good sound and music.

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Such a pointless thing to argue over.

You don't have debates by posting videos of a third party giving their opinion. LITERALLY not an argument.

it feels more like platformer than the rest of the games

You shouldn't skip anything besides the psp games.
Just keep in mind that the early ps2 titles were early ps2 titles with all the baggage that comes with it, the series finally finds its sweet spot with 3.

You can check out the ps4 remake aswell but the story ain't very good but the gameplay is the toppest notch

Fuck off. I played the OT last December for the first time and they were all great, except for the lack of strafe in the first game.
Crystal "grinding" takes like ten-fifteen minutes maximum if you're bad.
R&C1 has the best song in the entire series.
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If you told me this was an unreleased Massive Attack single from the early 2000s, I'd believe you.

I preferred the more whimsical, childish themes and the first game's OST was mostly that. The later ones were either too tense or the string-shit was just too hacky for me.

1 is primarily a (very good) platformer with some TPS elements. Things like proper strafing and targeting weren't really an issue because the game didn't demand much from you.

2 is this weird half-step where it doesn't know if it wants to commit to being a TPS or not and thus both aspects suffer.

3 is what a sequel should be and improves on virtually all of 2s gameplay shortcomings while trimming off most of the platforming. Arguably the best game in the series. Music and writing were also a big step up from 2.

Deadlocked is amazing if you liked 3's Arenas, nuff said.

>R&C
why are these games so replayable? ive done TOD, size maters and ACIT 6-7 times and still havent unlocked everything, fucking skilpoints, overpirced shit and armoursets, deadlocked is cool, 1-3 are prety good and the coopish ones are meh, too short and no one plays them coop, you need some friends and invites, cant forget that your ship music is rick astley never gonna give you up untill you defeat the boss. why cant they make a decent coop R&C???

What you fail to realize is that you just eat up everything they say. It's even worse when people start to just think that a YT video is correct because of the number of views and upvotes to the point where they brush off criticism directed against said reviewer because unlike them they don't have five thousand upvotes. That's pure sheep mentality and downright stupid.

I mean I could watch that video and break it down in detail but what's the point? You're gonna agree with him anyway since people like you don't think for yourselves and don't like to have your ideas challenged.

Legit thinking that the original R&C is better than the remake as a game is fucking stupid. Having that opinion is fine, but actually believing that you can objetively prove that this is true is stupid because the person in the video isn't even being objective.

But hey, if you want to be a mindless sheep then don't let me stop you. Eat up everything he feeds you in his vids.
Also using videos over articulating your own points is also the mark of a stupid fucking individual.

>Fuck off. I played the OT last December for the first time and they were all great,

Disregarded as biased.

It's like arguing with people that think Sly 3 is the best Sly. A waste of time.

the gameplay isnt strictly better. It has more streamlined level design and is much more forgiving on the player. Its more of a third person shooter a bit.

The biggest offender is the awful gun variety. I forget exactly how many but like like 90% of the weapons are just copy-pastes from the future trilogy. The fucking RYNO is just ToD's RYNO again