Timeline for the death of Fighting Games

Let's have a glimpse into the future if SF V dies and MvC: I bombs(like you scrub haters want to happen), shall we?

>Capcom decides fighting games no longer profitable, they pull out of the genre again
>Smash Bros dominates fighting game tournaments now, to the chagrin of the FGC
>DBZ Fighter surprisingly has some weird fatal flaw that causes pros to drop it fast, not nearly the amount of casuals buy it as people anticipated, making it a flop
>Fantasy Strike comes out, simple inputs for special moves is lauded by casuals and game journalists, but the bland and boring character designs and slow gameplay cause the game to be an abject failure
>TekkenxStreet Fighter is officially announced as being cancelled, Tekken 8 will be made in the future but the game will be less successful due to even more junky new characters added as veteran favorites are phased out
>Fighting Layer fails as expected
>entrants to tournies drying up now, sponsors backing away some
>Ed Boon releases Mortal Kombat 11, with Fantasy Strike's simple inputs and movement closer to(but not exactly the same as) Smash Bros, new mechanics added to make fights look more "cinematic"
>FGC despises it, but casuals and game journalists love it, game makes record breaking sales on launch for any game in the history of the genre
>Riot then releases the beta test for their new 3d arena fighter with league of legends characters and simple inputs, TONS of casuals and game journalists show interest
>EVO 2022 lineup is Mortal Kombat 11, LoL Fighter, Smash Melee and Smash 5, Tekken 8 will be out in 2030 on the PlayStation 5 Aquarius Console

And THAT will be the penultimate Dark Age of fighting games. All because you are spiteful and selfish and want SF and MvC I to die.

that sounds terrifying as fuck

>penultimate Dark Age of fighting games.
It could get worse?

If only this could happen to the entire video game industry

I'll just keep playing UNIEST, the best fighting game now.

Yes. Imagine a world where Mortal Kombat now has "cinematic" mechanics, and smash bros style inputs and similar movement(you can face any direction now and jump all around in the environment) and League of Legends having a "fighting game", as well as more smash bros shit. It's horrible, terrifying, utterly sickening. That is the future if SF V is allowed to die and MvC I fails.

good

It will never be at EVO or other FGC events though. Too many people will be playing MK 11, Riot's new game, and Smash Melee and 5.

If you don't compete for money then who cares. UNIB still has community tournaments.

Tell your supervisor to give you something that isn't absolutely fucking retarded.

Remember when people played games because they're fun and not for esports or livestreaming?

>If you don't compete for money then who cares


The FGC will die, you should fucking care. Show some goddamned respect and quit being fucking selfish. So who cares if the rest suffer, least you have Uniel right? Also that game isn't even that good, it's just a watered down GG with slower paced fights.

SFV is a bad game though, how about you tell your bosses at Capcom to make better games.

Yeah who cares if FChamp isn't compensated for his hard work and skill right?

Whatever, I still find SFV more offensive. It's a shallow e-sports platform that only rewards one type of player disguised as a fighting game. Whiff some CC normals, forward dash, jump. This is what SF neutral and footsies have been reduced to. CC normals are like some degenerate form of input buffering, but you don't even need to buffer inputs because of the immense advantage on hit. Can't stand this nearly universal stand roundhouse into v-trigger for frame advantage on block and combo on hit either. For all the flak ultras got nobody ever got free pressure for doing heavy normals into ultra, only Rose had something like that. And the short normals and trash walkspeeds and lackluster neutral and defensive tools only further prevent you from trying to control your space and stop the gorilla slugfest from happening. SFV is all about that artificial hype for spectators.

And those hypothetical future games aren't even fighting games, at least. I couldn't care less about what happens to MVCI but as far as I'm concerned competitive fighting games are already dead with SFV being the premier game. I'll just play the obscure games from here on out. I don't care about tournaments anymore.

It isn't a bad game, it's a flawed game, which all fighters are. No such thing as a perfect fighter.

You see nothing wrong with a future where EVO is nothing but fake fighters?

>Capcom stops making fighting games
>puts all of their resources into good single-player games like DMC5

>Street fighter fanboys use "muh footsies" and "muh mindgames" to justify street fighter being so shallow

Which is bad, you do see that, right? No more SF means the FGC and the genre dies a painful death and enters the neo dark ages.

Most people don't care about that pal.

I want new Darkstalkers. What are the odds Itsuno is working on Darkstalkers?
>mfw

hell, I saw a Urien player in tournament get a mixup just for doing crouching short into v-trigger. some characters don't even need to use their slower normals to get offense started. The only way for you to stop the snowballing from starting is to snowball yourself in that game. But it's okay that they did away with the footsies, zoning, and methodical nature of street fighter because the stream monsters like it and it gets some big twitch numbers or something. Oh he got shimmied and carried to the corner while losing 40% of his health and 60% of his stun, so sick! look at the damage! That's all you hear when you listen to commentators that are unfortunate enough to have to explain this degenerate game.

Meanwhile Guilty Gear and KoF will go on unchanged. I'm fine with that

I mean, I do. But SFV is already a fake fighter anyway. It's definitely a fake Street Fighter game. And this hypothetical situation you mention where games are tailored to be "cinematic" for spectators is already a reality with SFV. Players can't even control what's happening in neutral because you can't react to shit and the tools you have are insufficient to prevent approaches. The risk and reward is skewed as fuck towards constant aggression too. The dark future you mention where games are shallow and artificially "hype" is already a reality, man.

>implying anyone gives a fuck about those games

I'm talking about the FGC son, not some Mexicans and chinks.

Modern capcom fighting games are mediocre as hell so yeah go ahead and die FGC. It'll only be an improvement.

>DBZ Fighter surprisingly has some weird fatal flaw that causes pros to drop it fast
that didnt stop marvel players from playing their game
>EVO 2022 lineup is Mortal Kombat 11, LoL Fighter, Smash Melee and Smash 5, Tekken 8 will be out in 2030 on the PlayStation 5 Aquarius Console
So you are saying all the current fighting game players will suddenly disappear and be replaced by casuals who prefer team games to blame others but raged even in simple things like rising thunder. Yeah thats not going to happen...

You are trying to sound like James "capcbro" Chen but you obviously never played a fighting game at a decent level in your life and only talk about them since you suck so much.

Capcom already died once, and everyone that played sf still played sf, nothing changed for anyone else either. You will just get the people that play the games for the games and not for the esports money thats whats going to happen, the community is going to get curated and people like you will go play smash or something else, meanwhile nothing changes for guilty gear, kof, or any other game. As for James Chen, hes a passive aggressive bitch who cant take the truth, he cries every year at evo, praises r/kappa then says its trash and then apologizes. How can anyone take that guy serious hes dumb as fuck

>I'm talking about some twitch goons who shill for shit games because their sponsors told them to

But SFV still has some depth to it and can be fixed. If SF V is allowed to die, Ed Boon can end up unleashing some godawful monstrosity onto the genre that ruins it all. Imagine a game so piss easy even the morons on this board can play it.

Let's have a glimpse into the future if SF V dies and MvC: I bombs(like you scrub haters want to happen), shall we?

>Capcom goes back to the drawing board and decides to revamp SF.
>MvC I fails because the roster and gameplay is shit so they stop making Marvel fighting games for a while
>No one takes SSB seriously anyway
>Tekken still does well
>Netherealm is top developer for fighting games as with their last few entries and dominates the market

I'm ok with this. Netherealm actually puts content in their games unlike Capcom which is bare bones and keeps screwing over their fanbase. And MvC I is terrible. I wont support terrible games. Netherealm is the only company giving fans what they want.

>he dared to like a Capcom game, shill, shill!

Same, the niche games I enjoy will stay niche. They might take a hit but nothing much will change. Fuck the SFV pros for selling out and playing a game they don't even like though, especially the ones that put all of their eggs in the Capcom basket. They're the ones to blame for all of the people feeling like they have to support Capcom fighters no matter how bad they are, and they're to blame for all of the fearmongering going on lately about how the FGC is doomed without SFV and MVCI. Fuck them all, seriously. I don't even care about smash but at least they work hard enough to keep the games they actually like alive.

NRS dominating the genre is still a dark future, the darkest future. Also Ono barely got Capcom to do a SF 4, if SF V dies there is no going back to the drawing board, its called Capcom cans SF for good. Ono had to beg and plead to get it made and even then he said his coworkers hounded him all the time asking why even bother making a fighting game.

Yes.

Rise of the Robots is remastered

Are you the same retarded nigger that really thinks a genre of games are going to die because his favorite franchise is having problems. Other games exist outside yours.

>B-But muh e-sports
Go fucking watch overwatch, dota, or starcraft whatever you faggots have going these days that no one cares about. Or actually go play a game in any genre that does just fine without faggot e-sports.

I doubt FG will die but it'll probably dip in quality overall with more devs taking cheap ways since the FGC will eat up literal shit and bitch at anyone that doesn't as "not supporting FGs". Nigga, I'll support what I think is good. After that, people will get sick of the poorer quality and start demanding better. Only then is there a chance that FGs will die. They will either deliver or not and not doing so could wound the FGC and the genre as a whole.

>All because you are spiteful and selfish and want SF and MvC I to die.
How is it selfish to not support a game you don't like?

>"some" depth
I'm sure whatever shitty games come out in the future to pull in e-sports revenue will have "some" depth too. Fuck them though. They intentionally stripped the game of tools and depth so veteran players won't be able to control the game too well. They aren't changing shit and if you actually believe it's going to get better after over a year of playing SFV and the game getting WORSE you have some serious stockholm syndrome. You probably fell for all the fearmongering going on right now too.

Seriously, nobody actually wants the FGC to die just out of spite. People just don't want the FGC to go on being slaves to shitty games just because. And if the FGC can't exist without SFV it probably doesn't deserve to.

the fighting game community is one of the most toxic video game communities

Abigail is a mistake

Why the fuck would they make a character larger than Zangief? Zangief is supposed to be THE big dude of Street Fighter. Now he's a manlet compared to Abigail.

>Go fucking watch overwatch, dota, or starcraft whatever you faggots have going these days that no one cares about.


Those games don't have the hype or skill level of Street Fighter though. And Overwatch, you fucking dare suggest that casualized skilless goddamn garbage to me? Fuck you.

the only people who think fighting games will die if SF and marvel dont do good are capcom dick riders, there are a good amount of other games out now to play but you all refuse to play any of them

YESSSS MAKE IT HAPPEN

>implying that if you let MvC and SF survive it wouldn't turn out to be even more shitty
Funny that you list simplified babby mechanics as a flaw when SFV and MvCI are embracing it like no other

Because those games dying can kill the games you like too, or at least hurt them. Why should arcsys make more fighters if DBZ which technically should beat any Capcom fighter, fails?

>Riot then releases the beta test for their new 3d arena fighter with league of legends characters and simple inputs
Not going to happen, since the Rising Thunder team's project already got cancelled.

>the fighting game community is one of the most toxic video game communities


No, LoL is. I got temp banned for calling one of my shitty team mates a faggot and telling him to choke to death on my fucking cock. The fuck kind of game punishes you for setting people straight?

They definitely have the skill level of Street Fighter since SFV. And if you think shimmy into button into v-trigger "comebacks" are "hype" then you fell for the heavily engineered and intentionally volatile nature of SFV just so idiots like you can see blowups on streams.

>the game will be less successful due to even more junky new characters added as veteran favorites are phased out
t. I main special snowflakes
I bet you complain about Q and Ingrid, too

this guy again

let capcom die

seriously fuck Capcom

But it's one character. Ed is the only one like that. Imagine a fighter where every fucking character is like that shit. Imagine MK 11 being that, you think Boon isn't taking notes and watching like a predator? He's waiting for his moment to strike, and remember, he said it himself, he never likes to make the same game twice, he LOVES gimmick shit. He could singlehandedly destroy the fucking genre.

>Imagine a fighter where every fucking character is like that shit.
SFV

>Because those games dying can kill the games you like too, or at least hurt them
Not really. Not unless it's the same company. And fuck the FGC. Games worth supporting will be supported, unless the company pumps tons of money into prize pools so the players have to play it in order to eat.

Remember FF13? It was so bad it stained jrpg genres reputation for awhile. Persona put it back in the map, while Tales series kept going.

I dont understand capcbros, they suck at their own game but they feel the need to talk shit to other games. You got a simplified crap and you cant even do well how can you explain that, your game is so bad you make threads like this instead of playing it

this, SFV character variety is a fucking joke and execution isn't even a factor anyway. Who cares if future games have one button inputs anymore when SFV combos are instantly optimized undroppable babyshit already?

I'm STILL mad about FF13. Worst FF bar none

Why do you want a new game when you don't even play vampire savior

Yeah then they introduced Hugo.

How is it a dark future? They haven't released a single bad game. People were divided with SFIV. SFV is universally panned. NRS hasn't messed up yet. Aside from the competitive side they throw in tons of content. You may only like the comeptition side but some us actually enjoy the story modes and weekly challenges and unlockables. The days of buying bare bones games are gone.

SFVs oversimplification and popularity has actually made it more difficult to succeed for a lot of people. For any player that doesn't love high risk high reward gameplay you have to play a game with almost no tech, almost no decent normals or walkspeeds to play decent defensive neutral, and no defensive mechanics to prevent yourself from getting blown up by the most basic pressure. Everyone is at the intermediate level in SFV because it's half a fighting game. Not even talking about content. Just the game itself.

Boon doesn't need to destroy the genre when Capcom already did it with SFV

>Those games don't have the hype or skill level of Street Fighter though

So is that the only reason you play video games? E-Sports is the worst thing to happen to gaming. Games are a fun passtime, not a fucking sport.

>complaining about the dankest timeline
I'M HYPED LET'S GO

More like they introduced T. Hawk. Even Sagat who has been around longer than Gief is taller than him so I dont know what that homo is crying about

>NRS hasn't released a single bad game
Everything after MK3 and before MK9 was absolute shit and even then MK9's online might just be the worst I've played ever.

>he never likes to make the same game twice
Weird, I could swear he was in charge of Mortal Kombat

Not to mention that you can't even trust your own reactions. I mean god damn. The game is built to always result in a blowup because it's "exciting" I guess.

If fighting games need artificial hype to survive then the genre can die for all I care.

Next video game crash is going to be because every fucking game will try to implement Korean MMO grindan' in multiplayer games like LoL did.

>toxic

Hello kotaku are you still mad people make female booty and retard jokes?

>Who cares if future games have one button inputs anymore when SFV combos are instantly optimized undroppable babyshit already?


Calm down ok? You don't know what you're saying. You do NOT want that to happen to the genre. Or do you want a one button special move anime fighter too?

What about MK9 and after? That was technically NRS first game. Yeah yeah I know Ed Boon did every MK but NRS was the Studio that revamped the series. Before it was what Acclaim and then a few other companies. NRS has a so far clean track record.

>believing that Capcom shitting the bed again will kill fighting games

The absolute state of capcbros, everybody. Fuck your e-sports shit, nigga, people will manage without you.

Without esports, the money is gone. No money, means less pros, less pros means less players coming to tournies at all. Smaller tourney venues, and we'll be going back to the days of people playing melty blood in a fucking gas station, you want that shit?

Good, esports was a mistake anyways.

>The rise of 3D action technical fighters rise dramatically as juggling and style become more prominent
>The death of 2D and 2.5D rehash shit dies
>This is bad.
Who gives a shit about the FGC when fighting games have become stagnate bullshit.

>>DBZ Fighter surprisingly has some weird fatal flaw that causes pros to drop it fast

It already has that fatal flaw. There's not enough complex systems and all characters feel the same.

>implying melty blood isn't being played in a bathroom stall at this very moment.

Nigga as long as there's games people will play them. That's literally all that really matters.

>we'll be going back to the days of people playing melty blood in a fucking gas station, you want that shit?
Kind of actually, fucking arcades were pretty awesome in their height.

>but technically
MKX was a fucking trashheap on a technical level until they made that patch months later. I can't remember if they ever ended up delivering that to PC or not. That shit was a fucking travesty.

>Smaller tourney venues, and we'll be going back to the days of people playing melty blood in a fucking gas station, you want that shit?

Yes. At least those melty players are playing their game because they love it, not because they're forced to by their sponsors like SFV players are.

>people will manage without you

Guilty Gear sure won't and Blazblue didn't survive after being trashed

Capcom dying would save the FGC at this point. Right now people think FGC is "capcom". There a lot of interesting games out there, go play them.

>>The rise of 3D action technical fighters rise dramatically as juggling and style become more prominent


But we don't want to play shitty arena fighters like xenoverse and one piece burning blood

All that matters is that Melee will still be alive.
>yfw PP finally returns in EVO 2022

>impülying that's a bad thing
you capcbros have shlurped esports dick for way to long you're not even being rational anymore. SO WHAT if there are no pros do you play the game or do you just watch pros? There will be godlike players regardless. Not in sfv though because noone feels compelled to play it without the prize money kek

>melty blood in a fucking gas station
So back to the good old days? Sign me up.

guilty gear survived by being an arcade game. guess which game is not played in japanese arcades

Actually, it's the golden age


>Dragon Ball FighterZ is a massive success, bringing in new players into the genre because of the property. Building off the mechanics of Persona 4 Areana and informfpariting the in depth tutorials of Guilty Gear XRD, many of these new players become regulars and pros. >It's popularity grows Arc System Works and "anime fighters" massively, and more contemporaries like Mortal Combat borrow "anime fighter" mechanics.
>Arc System Works replaces Capcom as the king of fighting games, makings out of many popular properities.
>Riot's League of Legend fighters because of a sucess by builidng on Rising Thunder's foundations along with the consuling (this has actually happened recently) given to them by Arc System Works. This increases the popularity of fighting games as an e-sport.
>Smash remains as a popular alternative to the now mainsteam "anime fighter" and easy input fights and like
>Never Realms continues on their amazing job of keeping their games accessible for people with disabilities. It is a major news item and meme when a blind man wins a major Injustice tournament.
>Fighting Layer is a modest succest and is remembered fondly for deaces to come because of it's humour "What's your Gougi!?" commercials done by Woolie Madden, who becomes a spokesperson for Arika.
>Capcom goes into bankruptcy by 2024, many employees moving to Arika, SNK, and Arc System Works.
>Evo is renamed to Fight Con in 2025
>by 2030 Fight Con as a televised event rivals the super bowl.

Oh fuck me OP we just did this yesterday, and now you are changing your tune from "fighting games will be ogre" to "fighting games will not be Street fighter" if SFV fails? Jesus. By the OP, your little thread yeaterday DID at least get me to reinstall SFV to see if i could get back into it and it took about 10 minutes before is saw 7 characters, several stages and costumes hidden behind pay/grind walls that i uninstalled it again. Fuck Capcoms attitudes regarding this particular full priced early access game. That might not be "gameplay relevant" but it does fucking matter.

>Right now people think FGC is "capcom". There a lot of interesting games out there, go play them.

This is the problem with faggots. You think that if Capcom or NRS or Smash dies that people will magically want to play your game. The thing is people like certain games or franchises for certain reasons. You don't see Quakefags moving over to CoD or CoDfags moving over to ARMA and those games are designed to appeal to westerners unlike most fighting games.

No, shitting on SF won't make people play GG
No shitting on NRS won't make people play BB
No, shitting on Smash won't make people play Arcana Heart

>Guilty Gear sure won't

You realise that GG has a robust scene with ASW sponsoring international tournies? And anime-only tournies are a thing, CEOtaku fares well (sadly they allow Smash on the premises, but nobody's perfect)

>Blazblue didn't survive after being trashed

That's the state of BB in the West, always the second to GG. Way more popular in Japland tho.

Exactly. Who cares.

You know, I'd really be happy to, but you can't deny most fightans die really fast, and some of the devs that get praised to no end (like arcsys) do the same shit capcom does, but without the playerbase to support it
>guilty gear xrd sign
>guilty gear xrd revelator
>guilty gear xrd rev2
I didn't buy sf4 because of that shit and i won't buy gg, especially since it dies so fast

>The FGC will die, you should fucking care.

Why? Normies will still buy these games for fub even if they literally suck, so it will continue.

I don't care about you, FChamp. Stop shilling here.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE FGC FAGGOT ARE YOU MISSING THIS?