I'm bored as fuck. What is the best Tales of game on pc? I don't know anything about this series

I'm bored as fuck. What is the best Tales of game on pc? I don't know anything about this series.
I'm downloading Berseria atm.

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nothing. Don't support faggot game for fujoshit. Let the series die. It suffered enough.

Enjoy it user. Just remember to not touch my princess.

All the new Tales games are shit because they don't have an overworld map.

For the limited time I could put up with Berseria wasting my time constantly I preferred Elenor to the entire rest of the cast.

Tales of the Abyss. Go play it on a ps2 emulator.

berseria by far don't bother with the rest on pc.

this or i guess pirate eternia

Berseria is. Pretty much all the Tales games after Vesperia are pretty questionable, Berseria only gets a pass because it has the best cast.

do it faggot
best tales game

I miss the overworld maps so fucking much. Hopefully the ps3 emulator works well soon so I can play Vesperia again.

Just let tales die, it's become nothing but fujoshit. Berseria doesn't even begin to make up for Zestiria and Xillia 2.

Don't listen to this user. Abyss is the worst one.

Don't fell for the jap VA meme play it in English.

wait youre joking right?

Abyss
Graces F
vesperia
Destiny remake (jap only but it doenst matter)

I dunno which ones are PC/emulatable but those are the best ones!

Are you retarded? Tales of the abyss is the prime example of everything wrong with current tales games.

>Overly effeminate male cast with homoerotic overtones
>Terribly over complicated story with 2deep4u plot that amounts to nothing.
>Terrible cast of annoying characters besides tear
>Horrible art design and horribly written dialogue.
>Stupid combat gimmick that ruins or hinders a good aspect of the game.

Tales of Symphonia is fucking golden, Abyss and Vesperia are second best. It really depends on who you like for your cast but ToS cast is definitely 10/10

Friendly reminder that Zestiria ruined Berseria.

Play Trails in the Sky

I shouldn't have bought this game at full price. I have 30 hours of playtime recorded and it still didn'T "click" with me, it just goes on and on and its only BARELY interesting enough to keep me playing.

Also is there a good tutorial for the combat system? I think I understand it but I still fail miserably. I mostly play as the spear chick though, maybe she just sucks.

Anyone who's played alot of JRPGs would know what I'm talking about.

English VA and the art/animation-style just didn't work for me. Sounded weird as fuck on Velvet. Haven't heard the rest.

>use spectacle
>spam moves that hit a weakpoint

It's exactly like every modern tales familia

Use her spells as combo enders, spells drastically lose cast time after physical arts. IIRC Eleanor's the tanky one.

>Game goes out of its way to get good high quality Jap VA
>The main characters are the worst ones in the dub

What is there to meme about? There's no reason to not go sub in this game.

Not him, but I found tales of the abyss to be pretty fun, though I haven't played any of the other tales of games so I can't compare. The only voice actor I was ever really annoyed with is ""sync's"" though, everyone else seemed fine.

>I'm bored as fuck.
Tales of series isn't gonna make you any more entertained.
I'd rather state at a wall than play Berseria, not even kidding.

Series is anime: the game, but not in a bad way. Its usually a cheesey but likeable story and characters, fun combat, a fair amount of exploration, and lots of replay value. Don't go in expecting it to be this massive AAA HD final fantasy type of thing.

Berseria isn't as good in some ways as other titles in the series, but the only other titles that are much better than it that are also on PC are very, very old, and feel very dated in comparison. You picked the best starting place for PC.

Just make sure you pay extra attention to figuring out how the soul gauge works, or else your gonna have a bad time from the get-go

>spectacle
?
>It's exactly like every modern tales familia
I've only played Xillia 1+2 and some of Hearts R and I had far less problems with that combat, oddly enough
This is what I might be missing, I always use spells first since I though they trigger a weakpoint and enhance my damage, never thought to use them as finishers instead

Also is it just me or does healing just suck in this game, and items are super important?

Tales of Maj'Eyal

good one

Symphonia, obviously.

Abyss is shit. I slogged my way through ten or so hours before dumping it. I don't understand you people.

this. i was sad when i found out how linear Berseria was. and now i can play the full jap version of Vesperia.

Healing spells are fairly weak this time around since you have so many other methods to heal (break arts, life steal arts, killing enemies etc.) but sometimes the AI throws out a fairy circle at the right time when your parties getting bodied and it can still be helpful or you can just set everyone out to all out offensive and turn of their heal spells

healing artes are literally worthless on chaos
the only one worth jackshit is life and resurrection because it saves on life bottles

I'm worn out on this game and I'm not even at the halfway point. Good god the padding and blandness. Katz spirit collectathons giving me severe OCD, the music being even blander than Zesty's (and at least that had the Temple themes) and skits, skits on top of skits. I feel like I'm playing a VN.

It just looks so lazily slapped together too. Animations from 2006 with Japans garbage mocap in full effect. I keep Velvet in Rutee's outfit and without the bulk of her stupid looking rags (thanks Inomata for being a trash designer), her arms are always ackwardly out like she's 1 inch away from T posing.

I admit, the skits can be hilarious. And I love the entire cast. Everyone's a dick and along just to get the job done like Abyss. But so far its the only saving grace. Ran through the ""dungeon"" with the icey hot puzzle and the same boring greenery that even Xillia did better gave me this grating feeling. The kind of feel where there's something scratching in your head, chipping away at your fun because of the utter obvious tedium.

Wen is Sakuraba going to die and Inomata become crippled? I would honestly take silence sans boss fights over hearing the same flute/bell Sakuraba compositions redone from his recycling bin.


tl;dr This game is extremely tedious thus far, and I want to love it but cant because lazy/cheap design.

>sideways image
T-thanks windows

don't listen to the negative comments. play it for the witch miku japanese VA

Pretty much agree on all points aside from the cast which I also find mediocre.
Sakuraba just needs to die, this man isn't just bad, he ruins games with his shitty music.

I started off in English because I prefer to play my games as such. Young Velvet annoyed me immediately because the actress, if this makes sense, sounded like she was trying to sound innocent and sweet. Kind of like "I'm acting!"

But at the same time JP voices are doing the same thing. It's their overly dramatized sing song thing that they do with women and voices for men that you'd never actually hear someone talk like in real life. I want to switch over just for the NPC voices to improve because it kind of gets obvious after awhile.

I know for a fact I'll miss Rokuro and Magilou's JP voices because Roku's sounds so befitting and I doubt the English VA could pull off Magi's speech quirks. Personally, I find playing dub not fitting for this game simply for how Japanese it is. It's one of those weeb games where it has that feel of Japan jerking itself off so hard the skin is tearing. Hard to explain, but that kind of point of view makes the dub feel out of place vs Xillia and prior.

I get where you're coming from, but I enjoy them for how crazy and dehumanized they are. Velvet being the type to just go "nah lets kill em" is refreshing when heaps upon heaps of MCs just let people live because "if you kill them, you'll be just like them!"

if you are bored as fuck you will literally be put to sleep by the brainless gameplay of berseria.

its got like-able characters but i could just not stay awake during the boring ass gameplay, so i dropped it

The excessive amount of skits may be because Berseria like the 3 Tales games that came before it is unfinished. Not as unfinished as Zestiria or Xillia but still unfinished.

Why even wear those stockings? looks like a nightmare to put them in already.

NAO YU DIE

I only came here just for Velvet.

Those are actually remnants of her clothes she's been wearing for years unwashed, and unchanged. I kept her in her prison look prior to getting Rutee's costume. The coat and top are so stupidly ragged there's no point of them being there and it would have made more sense and possibly a better design to snag something off a guard but leave it open.

Inomata is trash. The character's themselves look fine, great even sometimes. But their clothing. She cannot for the life of her make a cast that looks like they belong together or be in the same universe. What was fine for 90's design doesn't translate well when other artists properly adapted. Just leave it to Fujishima. Pic related is her best work because these school uniforms are great.

Would i like this game? I'm a Vesperia fag so is the combos system fun Zestiria was so fucking boring to me and i dropped 25% through

Probably? I dropped Zest when I had to collect memory orbs, picked it back up because of the anime, then into the trash when I got to what I'm gonna guess was the final dungeon.

Bers is giving off the same vibes gameplay wise because it's the same run across this boring greenery field with low end PS3 graphics. If you have OCD, dont do it. If you've played American Mcgee's Alice, it has the same tooth collecting thing for fashion items. The high C pitch and shininess with drive you berserk.

Except Alice had interesting, actual puzzle level design and gave you actual rewards. I'm not a fan of puzzles, but I'll take Symphonia's ice sliding over look for the button in a tedious maze, press the button, progress. Persona 5 has this as well, but it's so simple it's not even annoying.

Well, the combat is simply exploit the enemies weakness. However, you'll also want to inflict status effects since that's how you get more souls. Conversely, you lose souls when you get afflicted with status effects.

Isn't that JRPGs in a nutshell? Not that that is a bad thing, mind you.

Not counting emulatable titles, the only ones released on PC atm are Symphonia, Zestiria, and Berseria. If we're adding emulatable titles, Phantasia (PS1 if you want it fully translated or Nakiri Dungeon X on PSP which comes with Tales of Phantasia X), and Eternia. If you can read Japanese or don't mind playing them in Japanese: Destiny R, Destiny 2, Rebirth, and Hearts (the original DS version)

The combo system is a little better then Zest. You might like the cast a lot though

thanks Because my brother bought it and never touched it "but wants to be the first to play it" and when we play it i was hoping it wasn't just mash the attack button and then hit special button. but if its as good as everyone says ill play it further

yeah i heard that too and everyone says the characters are fun and unique i just hope they aren't wince worthy/ basic ass anime tropes used 1000% of the time like in Zest

Yeah after Velvet boards the Van Eltia all excuses regarding her outfit no longer makes sense since she now has access to clothing, and her prison outfit would be cumbersome to put pin and take off.

Her design for Lailah worked, Mikleo's design was also good, granted out seems like the design originally meant for a female character.

Not quite, Zestiria is more in line with the Graces style (I'm calling it Graces style since this style started with Graces F though technically Destiny R did it first) than the traditional style of basic attacks followed up by artes. All of your attacks are artes and you can only use a certain amount of artes before waiting for your artes meter to charge back up.

Oh you meant combat. I haven't tested everyone out so I can't answer. Velvet just has a "win all the time" button with her arm. Highly new player friendly because you can get away with button mashing.

This is exactly why I wasted money (potato laptop cant handle it, so PS4) on Rutee's costume. Same color scheme and skimpy enough to make sense in cutscenes.

>Deadly encounter out of the first place that can trigger it
>Sure why not
>Almost get wiped out,had to resurrect velvet like three times and spam heal items

is this normal or i just suck ass

Vesperia PS3 will never work on the PS3 emulator, already been discussed, google for more details, sorry bros.

>I'm bored as fuck
No wonder, just buy a console already and you'll get inundated by great games instead of being forced to ask for B-tier Jrpgs that just so happen to be on PC.

>and I doubt the English VA could pull off Magi's speech quirks
She actually does it really well. I honestly prefer Magilou and Eizen in English. Rokuro and Velvet are about even. Laphicet is good too. Honestly, English isn't so bad in this game, I ended up enjoying it a lot by the end.

Except Kamoana. Her English VA might be one of the worst things I've ever fucking heard in my life.

ok good so there's actually skill involved, nice.

and i hope its not op like the transformation shit in Zest. cause i would just headbutt my controller activate that and the boss would suck himself off and die after like a minute of me spamming my fire shit.

source, cause I've been needing a reason to die lately

Play Tales of Eternia. Don't be a basic bitch.

>waaah waaah fujoshi waaaaaaaaah how dare they draw attractive male characters to appeal to girls waaaaaaaaaaah
You're all deeply fucking pathetic babies, no better than Anita.

In the cave where Dyle is? Pretty normal, the same thing happened to me. It's not a problem for long
The tl;dr is the way Vesperia does textures is really fucking wonky and uses a lot of tricks to work. Hard to emulate tricks, if not impossible

It sounds like you can't follow a simple story.

Listen to this user, do yourself a favor a play the best one.

How does berseria compares to zestitira? That was my first tales of game and didn't enjoy it that much. Mostly due to the overly complicated-button mashing nature of the combat.

rip, thats the same reason why jojo eyes of heaven is fucked, the shading is more of a trick to the lighting system more than just actual shading . well maybe they will find a way when i'm in the skelly zone. but they have been making breakthroughs lately so maybe they will find away to make it work

The seraph designs could get away with being outlandish, but her design was still put alongside others and its just so obvious who was designed by who. You have Edna who looks extremely modern, Mikleo's pastel abomination while Mikleo himself is perfect. It's that lack of cohesion that makes her work so obvious and of ill taste.

Well, I'll be my own judge. Is Beinfu another Teepo though? Really sick of Tales' obnoxious mascots being obnoxious just for the sake of it.

The difficulty curve is intense for those kinds of encounters, so if you're not used to them (or just under-levelled) it's understandable if you get stomped.

They're good for Dire bosses, though.

There's something about the art of Bers that's a step up from Zest while not really being a step up. Can't place it. But I do like it.

Maybe if they didn't spend the budget sucking off ufotable (can't blame them honestly) then maybe the animations can follow suit. I want to see unique walking animation, not NPC runs and trips the same way since 2005.

>They're good for Dire bosses, though.
>mfw Dire encounter for the first time
>low hp

Not him but abyss is one of the best tales
>Overly effeminate male cast with homoerotic overtones
No they dont ,you are just a fag
>Terribly over complicated story with 2deep4u plot that amounts to nothing.
No it's not, you are just an idiot who couldn't follow simple concepts in the game. It has some script and pacing issues I'll give you that but is the best story of any tales game
>Terrible cast of annoying characters besides tear
Only Anisse and that bitch archer were shit, guy was the best bro and jade is awesome fuck you
>Horrible art design and horribly written dialogue.
>Stupid combat gimmick that ruins or hinders a good aspect of the game.
That's just your opinion, I thought that the fonic field system was pretty fun and they made a lot of improvements over symphony so it didn't aged that bad

this. I'm only like 20% through the game but i already know i'm gonna have a shit ton of fun. and this aged way better than Symphonia

I mean, his voice fits his character poses and look and dialogue. It's definitely got a "mascot" sound to it, but so did his JP one to me. Some people were annoyed by him and I could see why but I found it alright. It's fitting, if nothing else.

I've been enjoying Berseria so far, should I buy zestir.. nvm sale is over

>It's definitely got a "mascot" sound to it, but so did his JP one to me.
Oh right, turtlez are in this game too. Their horrid accented speech in English is going to make me stab my ears with a fork unless I just directly skip any skit they appear in.

Used PS3 should be dirt cheap. PC is always free.

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The use of colors on Mikleo, works. And suits his overall character well, he's a water seraph so looking at him reminds you of water. But yes there should have been more cohesion in the seraph designs.

But like I said Mikleo's design looks that it should belong to a female, The top of it is great, however the bottom is a problem. It looks that it's supposed to include a skirt. With Edna two or three changes would have made her more cohesive with the other seraphim.

The ones that really stick out is Dezel and Zaveid.

Though it's not like Fujishima is much better.

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Please tell me there's a Symphonia version somewhere.

No, you shouldn't waste a single cent in this shit, if you really love Beseria then try to pirate it

Armatus in Zestiria wouldn't be so bad if only Sorey was capable of using it.

Considering how Mikleo is basically the perfect girl it's not out of the question. Characters wear robes, though perhaps someone considered he'd look too much like a lady if he wore one with a long skirt.

Dezel and Zaveid stand out the most for being outlandishly modern. Their designs are actually really good, but letting all the designers do their thing and mash it into 1 piece was a major mistake because only Fujishima's style fits in with the entirety of the world itself. I know I'm playing favorites, but the man knows how to use color.

Pic related actually. Almost identical outfit pieces but one of them looks like an actual militant uniform.

I played Phantasia more than a decade ago, which one should I play next? Never played the Destiny ones because of the art change, are they good?

Yeah, the free run, the fonic field system, the upgrade in the models, mystics artes really helped a lot to the game. All the shit that symphony didn't have

lol i played with my brothers too. so we would be like "alright who ever is first player just spam the fusion thing and win" and we did that for the the 3 bosses we fought after and never spent a dime on healing our selves. and i think the armor system was way to complected for its own good. call me retarded but there was actual micromanaging to be done instead of just putting on whats better for each member like in past games. like half the armor were elemental buffs and those buffs had skill tree's and levels. like why? Its cool and all but why put that much effort in something that only truly picks up late game but keep it complicated with barley any help from the tips. also the fusion shit made this game boring for player 2 and 3


tl;dr my shitty blog post. the games fusion made it boring and the armor system is very in depth but way too tedious and complex for its own. good

Yeah the mystic artes were way too cryptic in symphonia good to know they tell you how to do it in abyss, cause i haven't gotten to far in the game

armatized Artorius was too easy

Should I get this on the PS4 or PC? Are there major differences?

I like the mystic artes in Abyss best. As the games went on, I see them less as awesome and rare finishers and more as high potency artes. Overly flashy and useful against bosses, but they dont feel as strong.

PC version is just better if you have a decent enough rig. Decent mod support + you can pirate the fuckton of cosmetic DLC which is nice

It's not just the skirt it's the corset as well and his waist. It's also Mikleo's figure, he literally looks that Inomata was drawing a girl but then was told last minute to make it a boy.

Yeah, it feels like they should have added on more fantastical elements onto Dezel and Zaveid's design, because those two look like they come from a completely different game.

Fujishima is on point in this game for everything except for Rose's design. It's just too plain.

Good dude i like vesperia's a lot just because how anime they were. so if you think there good ill take your word on it dude.

GC Symphonia on Dolphin

Melchoir was harder than that entire fight. Kind of a letdown, really.

Post the porn already

>you can pirate the fuckton of cosmetic DLC which is nice
I'm actually glad most of the DLC sucks. Scamco is going full Dead or Alive with costume presentation and quite frankly I think everything looks out of character and thus, dont want to buy it.

>It's just too plain.
Should have gone with the blue shirt with maybe a tight jacket for oomf or a specialized assassin outfit with a sliver of color, not too much though. Her hair needs styling as well. Not looking for Sheena tier ponytail but just something to not make it a mop.

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I liked the pirate sets. The Idolmaster and Menagerie sets were good as well. The hairstyles are probably the best part about the sets apart from those few