Ok, disregard the story and memes and shit, but how the fuck did ANYONE survive Sword Art Online?

Ok, disregard the story and memes and shit, but how the fuck did ANYONE survive Sword Art Online?

Can you even name a single MMORPG where you can clear all the content from start to finish without suffering a single death WHILE LEARNING the game?

It's possible in a game like Phantasy Star Online to go without deaths, as it's done all the time on the private server that has a "hardcore" permadeath mode, but this is not accomplished without prior knowledge of all the game's ins and outs.

World of Warcraft's world PVP and often unforgiving gameplay would be impossible to survive at all for some classes, and forget doing raid content wipeless.

I know it's just an animu, but come on.

I would imagine that since it's a full vr game, with touch, taste, etc. You are obviously able to react better, since it's like moving around irl. Also I don't believe that the guy who made the game wanted it to be soul crushing hard, but not easy either.

Its also an Asian MMO os it was probably a massive grindfest too.

People fucking died in the first hour of the games release.
Anyone who survived grinded a fuckton, worked in oversized parties or stuck to the lower floors.

Can you compare that to VR though

I think a majority of players just stayed in town and lived normal lives.

the only thing kirino dual wields is both his dads' dicks

OK, disregard the anime plot
why the fuck didnt they include an ingame shop for microtransactions, billboards for doritos and mt dew advertisement nor open preorders for the season pass?
why wasnt there a LGBTQIA+ for gender selection? why only 1 nigger in the entire game?

Because the guy who made SAO (the mmo) wanted it to be as real life as possible. Real Life doesn't use a currency from another world

Sword Art Online is a dogshit game so you shouldn't even bother making sense out of it
>no magic besides sword skills (press X to punch harder)
>no ranged weapons
>little variety of weapons
>no classes
>the strength of your character is enhanced by your actual IRL abilities(???)

i think they mentioned at some point that the game wasn't as hard as most normal mmorpgs and that they made the original tower harder to accommodate for respawning when they merged it into the fairy world

>Isekai is stupid shit
Wow... Who knew...

People adapted real quick, and there was a dedicated guild of hardcores that volunteered to attempt to clear content knowing they would probably die in an attempt to gain information so that people would eventually make it out.

Also, what said. Alot of grinding happened, lots of people took low-risk, low-reward jobs and shit to level up safely.

>and there was a dedicated guild of hardcores that volunteered to attempt to clear content knowing they would probably die

Source on this? This is actually kind of interesting, but the only time this is ever shown in the anime is when the crappy low level army people get their shit pushed in by a late boss, and it was never explicitly said to be a "hardcore suicide infogather squad"

>>the strength of your character is enhanced by your actual IRL abilities(???)
>???
the same way any fps is influenced by your IRL ability of moving a crosshair on the screen

The low level army was from the newb guild that occupied the lower floors.
There was a group of people called the front runners or something that would usually get called together to fight floor bosses.
Kirito and asuna were a part of that group.
Considering how bs some of those bosses seemed they basicly were the fuck head suicide squad.

>Source on this?
there's a light novel, an anime, a remake of the light novel and a manga remake
the source is probably in one of these

I actually want to see an mmo SAO game. Too bad the only ways to "experience" it is in roblox or minecraft, or the actual games.
Seems comfy being able to just stop grinding, and take your resources to cook or craft, and then just relax and have tea with friends

It's alot later on.

It's not as cool as it sounds. The guild just kinda existed, and fell to the wayside of Kirito being Neo's dad or some stupid shit. The whole anime was fucking garbage and clearly a medium to vicariously live in a fantasy setting where you have a girlfriend. I watched the whole series while in a very shitty place, and quit watching anime for about 3 years immediately afterwards because of how the whole experience of watching this fucking series made me feel. I don't think I saw anything but an occasional episode of Cowboy Beebop afterwards until someone made me check out OPM.

The real SAO story would be about investigators tracking down game servers in the real world and shutting them down in a week. It's probably the series biggest plot hole that somehow no one was able to disconnect people from teh outside

"Meta" is formed after countless failures, so probably not. I'd imagine autismal grinders would threaten low-levels to run content for them to test the waters first, then go in themselves and hopefully make it through.

I mean if it was Japanese people handling the investigations I can completely understand it.

The Japanese are frighteningly bad at everything internet. Have you ever played a Japanese developed game where the netcode wasn't a steaming pile of shit?

Log Horizon was better. How was the second season anyway ? First season ending was ruined by waifushit.

Second season focuses too much on ninja grill and bounces all over the place.

I don't think anyone outside the game knew how to get out of it, they probably did find it but didn't want to do anything for fear of killing all that were still alive

Second Season has double waifushit.

And a few people were already experienced with said VR fighting, this was just the newest game using the newest gear and probably would have been forgotten like a year later if it wasn't for the whole "countless people dying while playing it" thing, the guy behind it was supposed to be this great gamemaker but only the hardcore fans of the genre (so like half of the people playing that day since they were there day 1 and many of them were beta tests) would have stuck around for SAO as a normal game. It wasn't that revolutionary, it wasn't some masterpiece in virtual form, just the latest big MMO.


That being said, not dying first raid rush does seem a tad bullshit if you aren't letting the first wave of people take the hits and discover a few weaknesses. They kinda just said "ok today we will go to this place and kill the boss, who is with me?" then went in without any form of strategies just numbers hoping if they had enough healers or damage dealers that day they will win.

I know SAO lore handwaves that even physical removal of the helmets somehow zaps human brain to death. Leaving aside possibility of such device making it to the mass market bypassing all regulation that exist to prevent exactly situations like this, the game servers are still sending data to the users over the internet, so their location could be determined. Let the police physically raid the site, seize the hardware and let the coders and infosec guys figure out how to safely shut down the whole system. IIRC in canon they gave up on finding the servers completely because some untraceable magic shit which I cannot take seriously

The towns were safe. You know how some MMO towns have random garbage you can find, like critters or really bad loot? There was a tree that dropped apples once an hour in the starting town. A small group of people that would gather them, sell them to a vendor, and repeat that every hour. Once they had enough gold to rent an inn room, they'd go to bed and repeat it all the next day.

Second season has more waifu stuff and overall I thought it was more dull than season 1. I liked LH's take on the genre by making it about the characters finding clever ways to exploit the MMO rules to their advantage, but the author got too into it. I don't need action happening every second or anything, but you can only sit through so much of the characters talking about how to season food or crash the economy.

Don't try to rationally analyze SAO user, that way lies madness. Might as well ask where are the devs and QA who worked on the development of the whole thing, source code, version control system, backups, internal test servers. I don't know how can anyone watch this shit without being bothered by how stupidly unrealistic the whole concept is.

Also
>MMO launches in an absolutely stable state with no server issues, crashes or bugs and perfectly works uninterrupted for two years

>Second season focuses too much on ninja grill
Is this suppose to be a bad thing?

It's possible.

Just simply play an overpowered build. It's like you guys have never played an MMO on release. Balance is absolutely fucking retarded.

The most recent MMO I've played on release was Guild Wars 2. I made an immortal warrior build on release. It was supposed to be impossible, to the point where it's insane to even think about. I took a bunch of defensive passives, then healing passives, then flag passives and flag skills. Basically I'd activate a tonne of healing and defensive passives, but only while my flags are out. I had three flags at all time, which made me immortal. I'd sit in choke points of Jumping puzzles in WvW fighting 5-10 people at a time and come out victorious due to the sheer defense, HP Pool and Healing I'd have. I was solo'ing dungeons and clearing end game events solo without even losing 10% HP.
It was ridiculous.

Clearly Kirito was playing an overpowered build and just pretended he had super skills. Basically Sword Art Online is a sham because Kirito was abusing shitty mechanics in a shitty game.

If I remember correctly they would go to the raid boss room poke him a bit carefully and tp out repeating that until they were ready to take it out.

They werent a guild if I remember correctly. They were called clearers and were just the high ranking players that volunteered to fight. Kirito was a solo player, Asuna and her guild were there as well as Klein's.

Its a shame really, with a competent writer the idea these teenagers, autists, weebs, neets and losers having to become an actual army and deal with all of the shit real combat involves without any conditioning or training would be interesting.

Emotional trauma, constant death, the inevitable divide and resentment between them and the 'civies' that sit in the towns and do nothing.

More like glop art online

Then why was he the only one with that build and the only other person to rival him was the fucking cheating GM developer?

>only time the server got fucked up was when everyone got moved to hospitals
>server doesn't get fucked up despite the dev and his girlfriend being in the wilderness
Because special unique OP protag.
>never got to see what cool shit the other moves were
>turns out you can just train dual wield in another game

>ROBLOX
>still playing that abortion when they removed TIX
>still playing that abortion when they made clothing 100 TIX/50 Robux base
>still playing when they gave it the cancer layout
>not knowing to jump ship back in 2009 when the stable 10TIX : 1 R$ conversion rate started changing

The cheating GM developer gave him the special snowflake skill because he liked how Coldsteel Kirito was, if I recall correctly.

You can have the same story about kids learning to survive in a hostile environment without isekai bullshit.

Well yeah you can but even with it SAO could have been good.

Wasn't there a massive militaristic army?

Anyway, author actually wrote SAO back in 2001 or so. It's not only written by a hack, it's written by an unexperienced hack. SAO Progressive which focuses more on Aincrad seems to be much better, judging by the manga adaptation.

The Liberation Front or something like that. They were keeping the lower levels safe and free of monsters. The Clearers were the trailblazers, the LF (and probably other groups) were the militia, the rest of the playerbase were townies or bandits.

Just read Tunnel in the Sky

The author's only MMO experience prior to writing about glopping semen was a brief stint in RO, which he quit after a while because he didn't like it or something. So not only was he an inexperienced hack, he was an inexperienced hack in regards to both writing and the main fucking plot object he was writing about.

.hack//Sign > all

>playing roblox at any point in its existence

If you knew the game was hardcore, and not only hardcore, but IRL-hardcore, wouldn't you play extremely safely?

If you can kill just 1 of the lowest level mobs, you can just keep doing that safely until you're overpowered enough to oneshot the next higher up mob.

>Kayaba knows that his game has shit all content at launch
>traps everyone in the game so they drag the game out for 2 years grinding the same safe mobs over and over

They weren't fighting max level content, and it was stated in the novels they over leveled before trying stuff. Also, you know you're not grouped with idiots and BRs because they would have already died.

>not selling exp boosts and single use res scrolls in cash shop
He doesn't know shit

Runescape

>ignore that you have to be a special snowflake to use a shield
>ignore that only one snowflake can hold a sword+ a knife.

>everyone zergs
>brainlets watch
> see zerg mistake
>profit

Just shows that a man who callously engineers the death of thousands is less cruel than EA.

The MC survived despite being a solo player by farming low level monsters or using his knowledge of the beta to grind faster earlier
Everyone else parties up or they decide to try to live a normal life in the towns where I believe, its impossible to die