Ds2

Whta makes this the redheaded nigger od the souls family?

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the fanbase

and all the issues pointed out by people outside of it

A focus on PvP more than the PvE

nothing, it's amazing vidya, just as good as other games in series. problem is, soulsfags are mostly kids who are still learning how to have an opinion, so when someone sulked about das2 being bad, it went viral. you sure do sound like guy who knows his shit when you're sulking.

>autistic retards actually believe this
DS2 honestly has much more interesting lore (vendrick, aldia, the queens) and was far better at following up the first game. DS3 absolutely shit on the lore, which is hilarious because it shit all over 1 more than it did 2.

Troubled development that was a cause of many fuck ups people still laugh about like volcano elevator or pile of rubble MC can't cross and has to kill 4 bosses instead.

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Should I buy this game or DS3? Getting into the series. Already beaten Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne

Get both but if you're going for 2 get SOTFS pack with all the DLCs bundled.

At first I didn't like DaS2 because it was too different. It had a weird new art direction that seemed more generic fantasy than dark, the controls felt different, and and I really didn't care for a good chunk of NPCs like I did with DaS1.
However over time, I grew to really appreciate DaS2 more than either DaS1 and 3. A co-op run with a friend is too much damn fun, the way you can respec, and use bonfire ascetics to refight bosses, and powerstances really showed that while DaS2 was different, it was a good game.
DaS2 may be the redheaded step child, but at least it isn't it's coke addicted younger brother, DaS3, who is pissing himself in an allyway trying to be like his big bro, DaS1

DaS3>BB>DaS2>DaS>DeS

Because it's shit

I'm not a sonybro and I started with Dark Souls but I liked DeS the most. The level designs were a lot more dickish in it

Both are good games, ignore the Sup Forums contrarians who just want to parrot everything matthewmatosis says.

>DaS3
>at the top
>instead of the bottom
What the fuck is wrong with you, your list was almost good

Soul Memory, annoying bonfire placements, annoying enemy placements in SotFS

Get 2, obviously

Forgot to mention that most enemies in the game are just dudes in armor and it gets kind of boring.

I hate the word "ludo", but other than that, it's pretty accurate. None of the games are bad, though.

3 is more visually attractive to me but I think I'll still get both games

I genuinely believe all the people who complain about Soul Memory don't fully understand how it even works, and just how little it actually affected things. The only time it was a screwup was if a hacker invaded you and somehow killed themselves which is STILL better than having a hacker softban you in 3

No, Demon's Souls is a timeless classic. Most of the Dark Souls community doesn't even know about its existence I guess

its actually good

I like it better than 3

Fuck what any fag here thinks. I loved 2. Had some cool bosse and lore, some of my favorite locations, and only one awful rat gimmick shitfest I wasn't expecting on my first playthrough.

Soul memory was great because it got rid of arbitrary soul level pvp and everyone being 120-130

I disagree. Demon's Souls is great, but it hasn't aged very well. It's pretty ugly, the item management is fucking annoying, the World Tendency mechanic is confusing (I didn't even know about it in my first playthrough) and many of the boss are just shit.

One of these threads, huh

many people went in expecting dark souls 1 with a new setting but found a game with a different director and different priorities. there were also a lot of controversies at the lead up/launch of the game (dlc weapons, miyizaki not returning, visual downgrade, no dlc promise followed by 3 dlc packs etc) which didn't help people's initial impression of the game, with matthewmatosis' video being the final nail in the coffin

in retrospect i can appreciate the game for deviating from dark souls 1 so much because we already had dark souls 1 and we saw the consequences of leaning too hard on dark souls 1 for influence when dark souls 3 came out. it's grown on me in a way which dark souls 3 hasn't

reviewers were scared of giving a hard game a low score, they didnt want to get called out by the souls community.
that and they didnt understand what actually made souls 1 good.

not sure what point you are trying to support here

So I guess The Last of Us and Bioshock Infinite are some of the best games of all time, huh?

I'd like to ask in a non confrontational manner, why you think that dark souls 3 shit all over the lore.

Also could you explain the throne in dark souls 2 to me thanks.

Dark Souls SotFS is an 8/10 game at worst.

Just doing my part, bumping the same old thread.

Same dude.

Sotfs is some of the most fun i've had with a soulsborne game, after 1.

>critics can't be wrong
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PROS:

>PVP, pretty much every weapon class has a weapon that is viable.
>Pic related's tits.


CONS:

Everything else.

Yes, but what about the users? The consumers?

>blocks out the user reviews
>doesn't post ratings of Scholar of the First Sin aka. the updated version of the game
Hmm...

this game felt so long, I missed a bunch of bosses too apparently but still, at some point I was basically begging for it to be over

it feels like the game is about to end once you unlock drangleic castle but then the game keeps going for like 7 hours

What about them?

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Dark Souls 2 is the definition of quantity over quality when it comes to levels and bosses.

Wait, so they are both good games. 1 is slightly better? I thought 2 was an unplayable piece of shit from what Sup Forums has told me.

>reviewers were scared of giving a hard game a low score
You can say that about many games user. MGS, Zelda, FF, RDR are objectively garbage series because I don't like them, reviewers were just afraid to give them a low score because it'll lower their reputation, because famous series and all.

>they didnt understand what actually made souls 1 good
Ok I'm really curious now, what made souls 1 good in your opinion, tell me user. Because DaS2 is better than 1 in pretty much every aspect no matter how you look at it.

Shitters that couldn't git gud and were mad that they couldn't backstab their way through the game.

DaS2 is basically a cult classic at this point.

if you get 2 get SoTFS it fixes a lot and includes the DLC which are far better than the base game.

>Ok I'm really curious now, what made souls 1 good in your opinion,
>in your opinion
nothing, Bloodborne is the only souls game i enjoyed.
demons souls was okay

Kinda like how NV is the definition of quantity over quality when it comes to quests?

But DaS2 does have more good bosses than DaS.

Better than presentation over substance, which is what we got with DaS3's wanna-be action-anime shit.

The graphics.

Thats literally it.

Everything else was fine except maybe poise which could have been better

Yeah, instead they lightning spear and power stanced there way through the game.

See:

2 is more gameplay-centered. 3 has too many gimmicks and feels unfinished.

and is short as fuck, the roll is busted and op as fuck making the game far too easy, lack of options for how to progress through the game, it also does very little new - its mostly just a dark souls greatest hits album.

My biggest complaints with 2:
>durability wore down way too fast, especially pre SoTFS
>too many filler bosses
>2nd half is entirely linear
>weapon attacks dont seem to have a lot of weight to them because of the sound attacks make when they connect
>iframes and adaptability never explained and were really dumb
>world design wasnt even close as connected as the first game

But despite that i think SoTFS is a really good game and i have probably played through it 5x now.

>instead they lightning spear
Not after the patch. What a shitfest, I know it had to be nerfed but they made miracles fucking useless.

i mostly agree.
i think the 2nd half isnt that liniar if you take the DLC into consideration.
and i thought adaptibility wasnt a bad thing, jjust different.

DS3 without a doubt

I kinda played DS1 with a guide for NPC locations, purchasable items and in general to avoid missing out on hidden/side shit. Would it be more enjoyable to git gud and play these completely blind?

I thought the durability was kinda interesting, making it a factor you actually had to pay attention to - making repair powder / spells valuable. Also bosses that used it - the DLC dragon - Sinh, I thought that was kinda fantastic. Fighting that dragon the first time discovering my weapon and gear was getting fucked up made it pretty frantic and fun.

Sinh was likely my favourite dragon fight in all the souls game desu.

Yeah, god tier way for your first playthru is blind with zero summons, npc or otherwise.

After that you consult the wiki and milk the game for everything you missed prior.

actually no, i played dark souls blind at first and didnt like it.
but once i read a guide and watched some other people play i actually knew what to do and how to play the game and what everything does.
the game being hard because its obscure is a bad thing in my opinion.
so for me, i enjoyed it a lot more knowing a ton about it before going in.

to be fair though, now that you know how Dark Souls 1 works... you know how to play any of these games so you probably dont need to read up.

dark souls 2 has good build variety and a terrible world and set of enemies to use the builds on
dark souls 3 has mediocre build diversity and mediocre enemies to use the build on
nothing in 2 comes close to a fight like Champion Gundyr

blind first run

>roll
>parry
>backstab

The 3 things needed to beat the game.

This.

Why is there a repair option in DSIII? I feel like I never even had to repair my weapons ever.

glad they fixed this in Bloodborne, they made it more casual by giving the players no chance to play the game wrong, but i didnt mind that at all.

I never said that DaS2 is bad. I'm just saying that critics are full of shit most of the time.

You just pointed out exactly why it was bad though.
Inb4
>lmao playing pvp

probably for weapons like the moonlight greatsword which can realistically be broken

Granted i never used the mlgs in 3, but i dont recall a single weapon of mine ever breaking in 3.

Durability in that game may have well not even been there. Pointless having a system for essentially maybe 1 or 2 weapons?

the throne is the kiln
posting that manchild

you guys overblow it on the levels

its the armor that beat people in this game man you fight a guy in full mirrors first time its awful

what? No.

Where the fuck did you come up with that.

well what throne ya talking bout?

souls games are terrible

and yes, i finished them all multiple times

wasnt me dude. another user.

why would you presumably spend money on, and play something you dont like multiple times, are you actually retarded?

Is this the hardest boss in Dark Souls 2?

neither

you're better off pretending II and III don't exist

Raime fucked me for like an hour.

I never actually found blue smelty, i think he was the only boss i missed.

2 was great, but I loved it more for its level design and aesthetics.

He's only exceedingly difficult because he has so much health and he screws with the timings on his attacks and mixes up his combos. You go into the fight with the muscle memory of the last Smelter Demon and this one will just fuck you.

It was the worst PvE, only autistic PvP fags like this game.
The dlcs are good though

>2
>loved it for its level design and aesthetics

>Soul memory was great
No
>Friend is bad at the game
>Stuck on the 3 lost Bastille bosses
>Reach the same point in the game
>Both level 37
>He died more thus having higher soul memory
Having to wear a stupid fucking ring to fix that is retarded

>summoning

kek
fukken casul

All that matters is fashion souls and DS2 is the undisputed king.

hory sheet, what is the helm on the right? and what gearset/pieces?

Combat is just the same, most of the bosses were eh and the soul memory thing was shit.

At least it looked good.

>Not cooping with your friends

minotaur helm, throne defender top, old ironclad leggings, king's shield, varagian sword, idk what gloves

How the hell did you get that musculature on a female?

Correct

I've never seen the minotaur helm, and i thought i'd really exhaused quite a lot of sotfs.

90% of the bosses are just big knights. Sometimes 2, sometimes 3 knights
if the game tries to make the boss battle any harder, it just adds more knights.
still a lot better world than DS3 had tho