>Turning one of the biggest and most expensive 90's JRPG's into a modern ARPG.
>So expensive they have to split the game up into episodes.
>Acclaimed dev CC2 already getting the boot for no discernible reason.
>Over 2 years since the announcement and seemingly years away.
This is totally cancelled/vaporware isn't it? With this many long and troubled productions they'll go bankrupt.
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No, they'll just push it out no matter how bad it is.
Remember, the target audience isn't people who like the old game, it's people who like the culture and want a chance to experience FF7 without playing the old game.
How do people like you conjure up headcanon for the development of a fucking video game? Do you have nothing better to do?
>they'll go bankrupt
>implying the reason they are even doing this isn't for the guaranteed dosh
If a turd like XV can sell, VII:R will most definitely.
>delusional 7 babies
Ok
Kicking out outsourcers is is usually a good thing since they cut corners wherever they can.
You forgot one:
>No appearance at a single E3 for two whole years
To appear at E3 they have to spend months making a trailer/demo
>Months to make a trailer
I didn't ask for a trailer, I asked for a appearance.
Nintendo fans freaked out when a picture showed off Metroid Prime 4, and fans freaked out when some old pokemon guy confirmed a core pokemon title on the way to the Switch.
It doesn't take much idiot. A little goes a long way. I picture. A person say they are working on it. Anything.
The game is not ready to be shown off it was revealed too early the best thing SE can do is not show it tell a year or less before release. We already know they are working on it.
>Acclaimed dev CC2
LOL
>some pokemon guy states that they are working on a game
>"that's too much work for Square enix"
Then they should be sued for false advertising, and you should be shot for defending a corporation for free. A statement is not work, fuck off.
>some Square Enix guys says they're working on the game in an interview
>THAT'S NOT ENOOOOOOOOUGH
>YOU NEED TO TELL ME THAT AT E3 SPECIFICALLY
>UGHHHHHHHH
kys famalam
Part 1 will be out this year
>one of the biggest and most expensive 90's JRPG's
actually it was like half the price of most of the 90s jrpgs
>Kicking out outsourcers is is usually a good thing since they cut corners wherever they can.
Here's the thing though: CyberConnect2 has a super solid track record. I don't even like Naruto but only an idiot would deny that the Storm games are well made and polished. In fact at this point CC2's history is less spotty than in-house Square. They're talk about "quality control" makes no fucking sense.
What most likely happened is that SE got cold feet, they realized what a monumental task this remake would be and quietly pulled the plug. The game might not be cancelled offically at the company, but it's most likely not going anywhere.
>THAT'S NOT ENOOOOOOOOUGH
Stopped reading there. Fuck your strawman. It would tell everyone that it is being worked on, and nobody would complain at all. None.
"We are working on FF7 Remake. Please be patient, thank you for your support."
That's literally all it would take, and nobody would be complaining since it at least acknowledges progress in the games development.
It already sold PS4's Sony is happy.
>Stopped reading there
Apparently that's not enough for you.
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Do you see all these news stories and interviews? They're all about how they're working on the game.
kys famalam
Thank you.
That's great.
That's fine.
That's wonderful.
That's excellent.
Would have been really nice if we he had something like that at the biggest video game news event of the year. But beggars can't be choosers I guess.
Oh wait, it would have taken 5 seconds, and we know for a fact that Square comes to E3, so it wouldn't have been out of the way either.
Nevermind, fuck'em.
>It actually wasn't enough
you're fucked in the head
It will be Horse piss
That's some fucking asspull.
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FFVII is one of the most expensive video games ever made.
Another strawman, I get it, your obsessed. No, I never said its not enough. I even thanked you and said that that was great. Its just a bummer that we got nothing at E3. Twice. In a row. For two years. Sorry if the exaggerations at the end confused you, its just that they have no excuse for showing up at E3, showing all these trailers for DLC for games already out, and not even having someone say "oh yeah we are working on FF7 Remake, but that won't be for a while." I know tons of people that think the game was canceled. One of them even sold their PS4 thinking it was canceled, and when I showed them some of those articles, they would say "they are lying. They didn't talk about it at E3 because its been canceled and all developers have moved to KH3 instead dude. I'm not falling for their bullshit."
So what's the definitive list of everything that's 100% getting cut from this game due to social justice or just general laziness?
>Wall Market
>Honey Bee Inn
>Cid swearing
>Cid abusing Sherra
>CPR on Priscilla
>The dolphin jumping mini game
>Tifa and Scarlet's slapping fight
>Cloud beating the shit out of Aerith while under Sephiroth's influence
>Jenova's naked boob
>Chocobo breeding
>Looking through Tifa's underwear drawer in the flashback
>Yuffie kissing Cloud on the date
>Dating Barret
>Dating anyone besides Aerith in general
>Sephiroth cutting down Tifa during the Nibelheim incident
Have I missed anything?
>Nevermind, fuck'em
The Metroid and Pokemon "statements" were announcements that took centre stage because they were fucking announcements - they're not going to show a 5 second video of Tetsuya Nomura saying "we're still working on the Final Fantasy VII Remake that we've already announced that we're working on" at Sony's E3 conference you retard.
Those people are retards, just like you. Birds of a feather and whatnot.
>Then they should be sued for false advertising
Fuck off you little nonce, you havn't purchased a product. What an entitiled little shit you are.
It does not need to be expensive. Proper management will do the trick. SE is bad at this.
>Yuffie kissing Cloud on the date
Why is that a big deal? Yuffie gives me a buffie. look at them. Practically twins. Anyone that says Tifa is has not got some chong in her is delusional.
No world map.
No way it's vaporware if they were willing to sink as much time and money into ff 14 and 15 as they did. Its years away though for sure and will he terrible
Don't start this.
There is no fucking way they are cancelling it. It would forever tarnish them as a company. It is also a huge shame they aren't sticking close to how the original game was like. That formula could totally work for a modern game. The only issue is people needing to calm their autism and appreciate that ATB/TB can still be fun. I mean shit we don't even get to see amazing looking AAA games with these battle systems anymore so why the fuck couldn't we have this one prove to the world it could still be done and be amazing for it?
>it's people who like the culture and want a chance to experience FF7 without playing the old game
That's a good observation
God, fuck no.
This warrants a death sentence.
Xiv and xv were both stuck in dev hell for a long time. One was completely overhauled multiple times during production and took a literal decade to finish, and the other was essentially completely remade AFTER it was released. It's actually pretty impressive that square enix didnt declare bankruptcy back then, but their efforts paid off and retards ate those shit games up
On top of that, CC2 already has a long running ARPG series, and now that they're pushing .hack//G.U. for the 15th anniversary, they'll most likely be working on new .hack stuff, hopefully something actualized but with good controls. SE could have benefitted from their experience.
>Chocobo breeding
Why do you think that?
>no WEAPONs
>no Fort Condor
>no Midgardsormr
>no Wutai
>only one continent (that's traversable only with a vehicle in a loading screen)
>no Blacksmith
>no Costa Del Sol
>no Great Glacier
>only 4 summons
>you can only use 3 in the game, one is story-summon only
Remake is gonna have a real time ATB system according to the new screenshots
Really don't know how they're gonna translate that from turn based combat though, though I have hope
>It does not need to be expensive. Proper management will do the trick.
No, this is simply not true. Even with proper management FFVII would cost an arm and a leg to make.
Think about how long the game is.
Think about all the different locations you travel to.
Think about how many different enemies you face.
Think about how much important dialogue there is.
All the set pieces and cutscenes.
Now imagine all that, with the level of quality showed in the gameplay trailer. Fully modeled enviroments, voice acting and mocap, real time combat, all the bells and whistles. It would make the productions values of Final Fantasy XV look modest.
>gamespot.com
>$50M to develop MW2
>$200M for launch and marketing costs
Is this the norm for vidya? Because if not, it's just pathetic, like lost-faith-in-humanity facepalm pathetic
No Final Fantasy since the PS2 era has had anything even remotely like it.
They'll cut it because it'll save them money and time, and 90% of the audience they're targeting wouldn't even know where to start with Chocobo breeding.
>no one mentioning how they'll handle Hojo or Vincent
idiot it's action based
the "ATB" is just a placeholder name because it's an adaptation of the system - for all intents and purposes that bar is a combo meter and has been since the first time we saw gameplay
Yeah but I would have preferred the traditional line up for battles.
>This is totally cancelled/vaporware isn't it
Yeah just like the last guardian right?
I'm getting bad vibes.
...
So this is like XII combat only faster and less stiff?
I hope they force active ATB, waitfags are truly cancer.
What kind of bad vibes exactly?
>No Final Fantasy since the PS2 era has had anything even remotely like it
So? No FF before or after it had a breeding system either, but other games have certainly had a capturing/riding system.
Hooooly fuck, cover. Either we're completely fucked, CoD fucked, or it's the greatest ARPG/FFXII-like-RPG ever made
Breeding system is just another way for the game to give you a all-terrain chocobo, they could replace it with IX's Hot&Cold which ultimately gives you the same thing as breeding, while being way more fun.
Me too
Just imagine how much better this could have looked if it had the traditional ATB system from VII. Imagine if Cloud and Barrett were lined up and attacked just like in the old game. With the camera being able to zoom in at times for attacks, magic and summons.
But no we can't fucking get that shit because people want action instead. SAD
Seriously, FF7 remake is the best thing that could happen. No more random encounters, no slow battles and no sickening graphics. FF7 was shit so is every FF until 12.
I'll give (You) what you're so desperate for, my friend.
>>Acclaimed dev CC2 already getting the boot for no discernible reason.
So they can work on a better game series.
This.
And I play ASCII roguelikes so dont even dream of calling me casual.
The game is too action focused(melee) to end up any decent on the customization/magic front.
Likely we won't see a THIRD of all the available materia, enemy skills might as well not exist outside of the iconic ones like Beta/Aqualung/Shadowflare/MatraMagic, purple materia like cover aren't even gonna work physically.
Blue materia combinations end up in a million variables, there's no way to include them decently, summons most certainly will be reduced to under 5.
What about equipment? Will have have more than a weapon + accessory like in SNES and IX?
All in all I think everything else but melee will suffer, both due to development time(all those magic abilities and their levels would be way harder to handle than some good melee animations) and because people won't see a point in going magic because melee is way more convenient.
You actually have to have a reason to use green materia, you have to make it flashy, like you did in the original
True, I have not played the og game and I rather play the new one.
>I have not played the og game
This is what Sup Forums has been reduced to.
Guys.
Guys.
Hey guys.
What if they remove Steal and pretty much most command materia?
(you)
I'm not worrying too much about that. These people are RPG developers first and foremost.
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>“However, what makes Final Fantasy and RPGs different from other games is that the players have the ability to choose weapons, capabilities and magic to be strategic minded, so while the new game has more real-time element, it will also maintain that strategy building element, balancing these two factors perfectly to enhance the gaming experience."
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>Regarding battles..
>Kitase: “We’ve solidified the base [of the battle system]. Tetsuya Nomura, of course, and Mitsunori Takahashi, who took part in Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy, are putting all of their effort into it.”
>Regarding Materia and other systems…
>Kitase: “There are a lot of things I still can’t say, but we’re not going to remove the things that were popular in Final Fantasy VII.”
I just hope they keep Tifa busty.
Everyone looks like a gook in that film. Even Barrett.
>remove the things that were popular
>"were popular"
That can mean a whole lot of shit.
>FF7 was shit so is every FF until the "game" that literally played itself
>developer can't share much info so they say something nondescript to appease the fans
>fans spin it in a negative way
everytime
It's just setting yourself up when they remove or neuter features
>oh hey guys we removed Support Materia because nobody used added cut, elemental, or All, they were not popular
>oh hey guys we removed around half the green materia, who needs Barrier, Comet, Contain, Destruct, Earth, Gravity, Mystify, Seal, Shield, Time? They were not popular
Yeah, devs should either give out details or keep quiet. But they always choose to blue ball
And 100% canon. Let that tell you something user. Anyone who doesn't think FF is a jap fantasy where japs are self inserting themselves into non-jap situations is dumb.
>n-no they made it for us westerners!
Face facts in front of your face.
After the pathetic magic showing of XV, I'm half convinced this is how it'll play out.
I'd play it.
don't take XV as the standard
never take XV as the standard
Okay, I can deal with that.
>thundaza
>firaga
>aeroga
>*ga
Am I the only one who preferred Fire 1/2/3, bolt 1/2/3, etc?
This entire project shouldn't have even been announced for another 2 years. Square has this really fucking bad habit of announcing games that are 5-10 fucking years away. People have already forgotten this shit exists.
Not like it'll be any good even when it does come out anyway. Episodic format and kingdom hearts combat guarantees it'll be garbage.
I don't know why Squeenix still haven't realised that Nomura is an incompetent hack who is fucking incapable of getting a project off the ground any more. Has anything he directed in the last generation even come out?
To be fair, the original game is shit.
Final Fantasy is a franchise that has consistently failed at having good mechanics or lack of padding.
FF1 is literally the only good one. And that game suffers from having half the mechanics not work. The remakes actually made it worse, with the MP system and the fact that the opening scenario's bait and switch (You beat the evil overlord! Actually, that's just the miniscule beginning) doesn't work in a modernized context.
Also, they removed the mechanic where you can attack empty air if you just mash the attack button, which forced you to actually carefully select your attacks. Sure, random encounters make this somewhat tedious in some scenarios, but the game was also better about random encounters than most later games. Shorter animations and more impactful but sparser fights.
Vancian casting makes a lot of sense for a game like FF1, where towns are safe havens and you need to plan your resource use, and casters can use physical attacks to safe their casts per day for when you need them..
It was a game of resource management. Compare that to, say, FF10, where you have a bunch of worthless resources thanks to its ridiculous linearity. Seriously, what's the point in even having financial or MP limitations or random encounters when you cannot even choose your path for 90% of the game?
Contain and Time were my favorite green materia in the game.
It should've been announced this year for the anniversary, but back in 2015 when they announced it they used some excuse like "we weren't sure if people actually wanted it"
it's gonna be like ff15 only even worse of a blunder, quality, not sales-wise, because retards will buy this shit like they always do
>the a team is going to produce a worse quality game than the b team
boi that's not how this goes
>so why the fuck couldn't we have this one prove to the world it could still be done and be amazing for it?
>Square
>Proving that a mechanic can be fun
When have Square ever been good at mechanics?
Then you realize A-team was in charge of XIII
>implying square's a-team is any better than it's b-team
>implying this shit won't get delegated to a fucking z-team because they know it will be bought by normies anyway regardless of quality
At least you're getting updates. Us REmake2fags haven't heard DICK since the announcement, and it's been over 2 years.
I don't care how long it takes, 2020, 2025, I don't care. I just want it to be good, that's all I'm asking, look at Bannerlord, they keep delaying it to up the quality, and that's good, I won't forget one of the most iconic games of all time, even if the remake is in 2030.
oh, (you)
Sony is pretty famous for announcing games early then canning them quietly, because fans keep defending it
See Versus 13
They need to release more info so that I could make up my mind about this. But honestly, I'd prefer a faithful HD remaster with an anime art style, voice acting, combat similar to X-2 and new materia/dungeons/enemies/quests/expanded world map. I know I'm not gonna get that, sadly.
Instead of keeping to the game's core strengths, they'll gonna alienate the 10 million fans people who bought the game for 10 million people that might or might not be fans.
at least 9 million of those previous fans were normies who'd eat up anything lol
WE DO IT
Just you and me bro
FUCKING REMOVE THIS NOW
>core strengths
What are the supposed strengths of the game, anyway?
The gameplay was a chore, the quicktime events were obnoxious and the story was ridiculous.
I guess the best they could do is just make it an interactive movie. That would reduce the tedium to a minimum.
-ra and -ga were around before FF7 but yeah, I liked the Bolt1/2/3. And I remember the first time I got to see Sephiroth use his [spell]-3 shit and it was completely different being fucking wowed. And then I figured out his magic was basically attached to an All materia. I was fucking stoked the first time I used All-Ice3 on some Shinra Soldiers.