Why are p3fags so fucking annoying?

>Persona 4 isn't dark enough
>Persona 5 just redoes the Persona 3 formula

Nothing will ever make them happy

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I enjoyed both P3 and 5 a lot. I didn't like P4 at all, but I only watched the anime.

Most P3 fans liked 5. It's just 4 that was shit.

i've beaten persona 3 and 5 and played a little bit of persona 4

i assume anyone who says p3 is their favorite hasn't played it in a long time and forgot just how awful tartarus is and how annoying it is grinding for levels.

i did like how seriously it took itself and its themes and the plot was pretty good for the last half of the game (everything before shinji dying was kinda meh), but the actual gameplay was not that fun.

that is as someone who played FES though and had to deal with ally AI, P3P may not have been that bad since you have direct control

They were quite young when they first played P3. I mean, I understand preferring the game over the others, but they treat it like if it was the best game of all time when it has some glaring flaws.

I like p3 but the sick and tired system always gets to me

I played all 3 this year. P3 was my favorite, followed closely by P5. P4 was a good game but was the worst of the three.

They're all amazing games though.

The tired system adds nothing to the game.
>Too tired to go to Tartarus but wakes up at 6 am to go to school
The game being balanced on the AI making dumb mistakes and people claiming FES is harder instead of more annoying because of it. The first half of the game is shit.
Party members missing stinks.

Pretty sure there's more things I'm missing.

Mitsuru's AI deserves it's own mentioning. by the end of the game all she does is marin karin and tentarafoo if you let her act freely

P4 fans.
>Persona 3 is too dark and edgy.
>Persona 5 has a shitty story and the characters aren't nearly as likeable.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

P5 fans.
>Persona 3 is too dark and edgy, and Tartarus is literally bowel cancer. Palaces are WAY better.
>Persona 4 is just and inferior version of 5.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

Persona 1-2 fans.
>Persona post P2 is shitty weeb cancer.
>Social links are garbage.
Nothing will ever make them happy.

All round Persona fans.
>These Persona games are fun.
Everything makes them happy.

I wish this wasn't accurate.

Persona 5 is way closer to 4 than 3 though

p2 (both) > p3 > p5 > p4 > p1 desu
fite me

but persona 3-5 is very weeb
it's like dexter's lab becoming dexter we dont want that

I like every persona but 4.

4 is still a good game but its not as good as the others.

>mfw P1/2/4/5fag

I hate Persona 3's main cast besides Fuuka and Da Man and Tartarus.

If it makes you feel any better, it's the Persona I liked the least.

>proving his point

>>Persona 5 just redoes the Persona 3 formula
What?
How? I'm a total p3fag, and I don't see how the plot of the Phantom Thieves matches S.E.E.S at all

not story wise, tartarus v. mementos, makoto v. mitsuru, edogawa v. takemi medicine

it's true i loved 1-2 but 3-5 it changed it got rid of all the cool stuff like status effects and types of attacks and if you didnt know some stuff is a jojo reference in 3 you would think it's very edgy it still is but not as much if you know jojo

Man, i'll give you all of those, but three similarities out of such huge fucking games seems feeble.

I feel like, with the inclusions of palace's, the Mementos/Tartarus comparison isn't as damning.

How is edgy an actual complaint coming from you P2 anons? And besides all of those countless damage types you guys covet so much are very rarely used in Persona 1.

Can anyone explain why Yukari and Junpei get so much love? Every time I start to warm up to them, they go on this whiny temper tantrum and long-term passive aggressive behavior in Junpei's case, and people say this makes them good characters because this makes them "realistic".

Do people act like than in America or something? Because I live in Asia and if you act like than in Asia, people will tell you to fuck off until you get a better attitude.

It's truth, and I'm a newfag who got into persona by P5
3 > 5 > 4

I don't know why people like Junpei. I liked Yukari though, but she seemed less whiney in Japanese. Maybe it was just my own inexperience with the language at the time and I missed her bitchiness, it has been a while since I've played it. Or maybe someone on the localization team fucked up.

They grow as characters, and they drop those traits as S.E.E.S grows as a team.

In Junpei's case, he realizes he's being a bitch and decides to move past it and help the team

At least P4 and P5's gameplay doesnt make you want to use your very own Evoker

Persona 4 was ok, but replaying through that game is like pulling teeth, and the end game wasnt particularly good

Persona 5 showed a lot of potential and grabbed my interest but in a lot of moments they played it too fucking safe making the overall experience boring

I much prefer 1-2 myself, but you can't pretend they aren't "weeb", they're just a different type. I mean, just look at Eikichi alone. He goes from a random thug to a guy who beats up monsters with a guitar case and a magical creature called a Persona. Don't even get me started on Hitler.

the shooting self in head
katana wielding all black final boss
emo protag
the theme of the game death it would be okay but mixed in with the other stuff it becomes
The Reaper it's cool but with the other stuff it becomes edgy
Shinjiro Aragaki
the emo designs

Junpei is the one character in all of media where normies on Sup Forums are willing to look past him being an asshole and flout his character development. Nevermind that there are a bunch of Junpeis throughout the Persona series that don't get his amount of dick sucking from normies.

I hate how you make a p4 thread and immediately they try to take over.

you saying jojo is weeb

I love Fuuka

FUUKA BRO??!?!?

>the shooting self in head
Fair enough, I suppose. As edgy as it might be though, it still fit with the themes of the whole game.

>katana wielding all black final boss
It's a broadsword, and that "edgy" comment only fits visually.

>emo protag
He's not emo. He's socially retarded, there's a difference.

>the theme of the game death
The theme of the game is accepting death and inevitable change.

>The Reaper it's cool but with the other stuff it becomes edgy
So an optional boss makes the whole game edgy?

>Shinjiro Aragaki
You mean the very Shoujo-like "thug" who loves cooking? Real edgy.

>the emo designs
This is just stupid.

fucker can't handle people calling p3 edgy

>Persona 5 just redoes the Persona 3 formula
Persona 5 is the Persona 4 team trying to do the Persona 3 formula. The character development isn't as good, and the game constantly shoves group activities in your face and everyone's together 24/7 whereas in P3 you're pretty much alone every day that isn't a full moon unless you specifically go out to spend time with a friend.

>implying that because persona 3 reminds you less about social links its a better game

also you get reminded about your school social links during lunch and you get called to see if you wanna hang out on sundays

I'm just sick of groundless arguments.
Waifu wars are bad enough without all these arguments about which game is better, most of which don't even have points anymore.

speaking of the waifu wars, the only girls p3 has are chihiro and "Mayu" everyone else blows

kill yourself

I wasn't implying that at all, I just said that it doesn't have the same tone. And I'm not talking about "being reminded of social links". I'm referring to how in P5 you are CONSTANTLY getting cutscenes where everyone meets up to talk about shit without anything really happening. Especially during the period between palaces, where you are basically forced to meet up with the group every day and rehash the story up to that point and briefly talk about what should be done next until something actually happens.

I wonder how many people have died trying to summon their persona

I mean at least one person, right

I only played them recently and I really enjoyed some cozy Tartarus grinding.

like what, they use an actual gun instead of an evoker or something, or like they're true self is someone who really wants to die so their persona chokes them out

I just remembered how much harder and less fun it is to raise mc stats in persona 3

Because nothing will be as good as P3
Just accept that it's the best in the series followed by 2

Oh and how everyone else awakens their persona is seen off screen (except fuuka) and hella boring

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oh sorry i got nyx confused with thanatos because they are the same thanatos is the edgy thing with a katana
and yes Makoto Yuki is edgy quiet uncaring about life and death apathetic and with a emo hairstyle and color a gothic lolita the games love for blood Orpheus and just because the theme of the gane is death with all the other stuff it becomes edgy Erebus

>Implied sex.
>Katanas.
>Bondage.
>Blood.
>Demons.
>Evil clown.
>Final boss is literally Hitler.
>Other final boss is Nyarlathotep.
God, It's so edgy guys. Why do people like P2 again?

I played 3 after 4 and started 5 right after and it's my favorite, P4's dungeons are as shitty as Tarturus and doesn't have a good enough plot or characters to hold things together despite generally fun group events and 5's plot, length, and main party """dynamic""" of the Futaba and Makoto show featuring newest party member makes me want to die.

Honestly I'd rather have that than just doing social links eveyday until the full moon operation.

>Oh and how everyone else awakens their persona is seen off screen (except fuuka) and hella boring
What? They're all shown on screen. Akihiko and Junpei's are some of the best scenes in the game.

Are you talking about the second form awakenings or the original? P3 doesn't have awakenings for base form personas but has some pretty sick ones for the evolutions.

sex is edgy now
yeah a weapon or two you can equip is the same as a important thing in the story having a edgy design and a katana
i admit some of the persona designs look like bdsm sex slaves
blood is normal it's just that in persona 3 there is too much of it almost every place during the dark hour there is blood everywhere demons are normal and not edgy if that might as well say angels are edgy
yeah i guess it's kinda edgy
hitler making a deal with a evil god is edgy he loses the god also it was a game to Nyarlathotep and philemon they made a bet

People think Persona 3 is dark? LOL it's angsty emo bullshit compared to the first three games.

preach it brother

I really want to play p2 and p1 but they look so slow compared to the others, especially p2.

I have a save that is a week before you fight the final boss in P3. I never bothered to finish it. Should I go do it or just watch the ending on youtube? With these games the way to the end is more satisfying than beating a boss so I don't really care. The game was just too long and I think I got burned out.

p3 was babbys first SMT

Why? Even if you don't like doing social links I don't see how having all that padding is any better.
>Monday: I can't believe we were set up! -> go to bed
>Tuesday: Damn it! We were set up! -> go to bed
>Wednesday: Why doesn't anyone believe in us? We were set up! -> go to bed
>Thursday: We have to figure out who set us up! -> go to bed
>Friday: Who could have set us up? -> go to bed
>Saturday: Somebody really set us up... -> go to bed
>Sunday: Free time with text messages about how you got set up
>Monday: Fuck it here's a palace

Oh, right. For some reason I assumed you meant awakening to their ultimate personas. I don't really see the need for everyone to have an on screen awakening though. I think it's fine for the MCs to do it, and I didn't really mind it early on in P5 since the whole mask thing was pretty neat, but it gets kind of old.

Hmm I guess you're right

it doesn't help that the awakenings start to get progressively worse as the game goes on, with Haru and Goro not even having proper Awakenings.

They're not that slow if you buy the remakes, which are great. Only massively bad part is P1P having a very small and some say worse OST than the original.
Otherwise the pacing feels about the same, for different reasons.

P3 has the best intro in the modern SMT/Persona series though.

The song is simply great and the drop is perfect in every cut.

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I didn't mind the tone of 4, I liked Inaba. It's just that 4's gameplay was just the dullest of the three.

Each Persona game had pros and cons, but they're all fun games with great soundtracks, dude.

>They're all amazing games though.
>When they're very basics and have pacing issue up the wazoo

Personna is the new Final Fantasy

He's still a bitch. When Nyx shows up and they have to decide what they're gonna do, he lashes at out at the MC like it's his fault.

Which game had the best ending theme though is the real question

>personafags trying to look better then each other
Always hilarious.

Kimi no Kioku/Memories of You. I don't see how it's even remotely a contest.

>not hoshi to bokura to

absolute shit taste

I'm playing through P3/4/5 and I've almost finished 3. If 4 and 5 have worse gameplay, I don't think I'm going to make it. I can't imagine how they could make it worse than menu lottery for Persona abilities and Tartarus 76124780 levels of random hallways with 6 skins, enemies which evaporate in the 1st turn to MC alone and like 5 tracks worth of music which reset after every loading screen/battle to make extra-sure you hear those first 30s over and over and over again.

desu P4 opening is better

4 and 5 does not have worse gameplay. When it comes to gameplay it is always 5>4>3 and if you see anything else then consider them delusional

That's some stellar news if so

For story it has to be 3>5>4

That's one of the weakest ending themes though, it doesn't even beat any of the spin off ending themes besides Calystegia.
Sounds very standard, and if we're counting the story involved, very underwhelming.

>Playing through 3, 4 and 5
Damn, you're in for a ride.

The gameplay does get better in 4, can't speak for 5, but apparently it adds a lot more combat options.
I didn't think 3's combat was so bad when I learned to manipulate the system. When you get enough money and enough social links, just get a persona that gives high crit rates to weapons you can fuse, then save it to the compendium.
Congrats, floors 120-260 of tartarus are now easy as fuck.

Junpei just waltzing in with Akihiko being all "yeah he got the potential" was jarring as fuck though.

I dunno, it makes the group a little more engaged into the plot I guess, instead of all the reacting that SEES did for the majority of the game until Ikutsuki stabbed them in the back.

God I really hope they fix this shit in the enhanced version. P5 felt like it had half the free days vanilla P3 and P4 had.

Also fuck you sleep cat.

P5 did have more Social Links that took place at night to make up for the busy days though.

4's dungeons are nowhere near as bad as Tartarus.

Anyone who likes one Persona game but doesn't like another one is trying too hard. If you like any of them, there's nothing about the others that's not to love too. 4 isn't shit. 5 isn't shit. 3 isn't shit. They're all for the most part equally fantastic games.

They're literally the same dungeons only more varied design wise, with the occasional thoughtless puzzle.

Eikichi is one of the most likeable characters in persona

Combat: 3(if you like tactics) > 5 > 4 > 3(if you don't)
Music: 5 > 3 >= 4
Atmosphere: 4 > 5 >= 3
Overall Characters & Dialogue: Fuck Moon 3 > 4 > 5
Visuals/Aesthetic/Presentation: 5 > 4 > 3
Story: 3 > = 4 > 5
Waifus: 3 > 4 > 5

I know your pain, started with 3 but it pains me to go back to it now from a gameplay and story perspective. Doesn't help that P1 did most of what people consider unique to P3 (such as a motley crew of assholes as the party) and executed it in better fashion.

Change Your Way > the rest

Why do newer Persona fans embrace mediocrity instead of reaching for something better?

>Too tired to go to Tartarus but wakes up at 6 am to go to school
It's not like they always study. Door-kun sometimes goes to school just to sleep and it's really effective [/spoiler]just like real life

Anyone who says TV World is better than Tartarus is focused too much on the visuals and ignores how shitty hallways are worse than Tartarus' random generation

???
You only have to worry about 3 stats and you have plenty of time to do it at night when you aren't in Tartarus, with both of those things giving you plenty of time to do stuff during the day

3 still has the best time budgeting of the lot by a wide margin and the only thing that makes it any challenging is juggling girls' jealousy if you do all links

lmao, the random generation in Tartarus isn't better at all. Sure, there's some small stairs in some rooms, but that has pretty much literally no impact on the overall experience. The overall less annoying design, and the varied environments and music are 100x more impactful than a couple more interesting rooms in the RNG formula.

Tartarus floors are arranged in a more compressed square shape with hallways and rooms wrapping around each other, while the TV World is just hallways with almost every dungeon having rooms only exist as dead ends rather than connecting to at the very least another hallway