What the fuck Sup Forums, you told me it was good. Do I have to enjoy cringy anime to enjoy this shit?

What the fuck Sup Forums, you told me it was good. Do I have to enjoy cringy anime to enjoy this shit?

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No, you just have to stop being a contrarian faggot.

>how dare you criticize the game!
>you must be a contrarian!
Given by the average steam review rating I'm not the only one who didn't enjoy it

Le anime cringe is not criticism you dumb fuck8ng shitposter meme slave asswipe, don't make threads anymore

Fuck off retard. Sup Forums is anime.

>taking reviews you can rate "funny" and that anyone can write seriously

>this is what the cover looks like
>"Golly gee I sure hope this game isn't like an anime or something."

Literally your own fault lad

Also complainingaboutanimeon4chan.tiff and etc

Best game since the first one was released, I'd say. Opera Boss is sexy, OST is godlike, and the ass was fat.

Not sure why people thinking saying it's "cringey anime" is any form of actual criticism. You can maybe call it out on the backtracking for quests and perhaps the sidequest content, but otherwise, unless you're an idiot and didn't pay attention, everything else was as solid as my dick.

>Do I have to enjoy cringy anime to enjoy this shit?
No, but you are required to have good taste, which you obviously don't if you don't like this game. Begone.

Of course you are not the only one who didn't enjoy it. All your contrarian friends also didn't enjoy it. That doesn't mean the game isn't good.

>dude the game is deep as fuck I had so much feelz go buy it the story is good I swear
>turns out to be entry-level philosophy mixed with anime-tier dialogue

>and the ass was flat
Ah no wonder Sup Forums likes the game so much

The thing that makes it brilliant is how it seamlessly uses multiple genres and succeeds are using all of them, 2d platformer, beat em up, rpg, shoot em up, etc.

>waaahhh japanese things hurt my fee fees
>wwwaaaaaah Sup Forums pls listen to my groundbreaking opinions on anime and apologise for being a hivemind that only disagrees with me ;_;

pathetic

Game has
>mediocre, repetitive combat
>chock full of easy and shitty shoot em up sections
>pretty horrible visuals for a PC title
>empty, bland world, that is also too large because you get fast travel halfway through the fucking game
>horribly balanced difficulty curve
>dialogue that reads as if it is written from a fanfic
>characters that are not fleshed out, especially A2
>banter that does not match up to the first nier's heights
>horrible boss fights besides the opera singer one
>the good routes are too short
>themes are shoved in your face, no subtlety at all (especially the robot fucking scene, that was embarrassing)
>music does not even match up to the first Nier

It's a 7/10 at best, usually 5/10 due to the easy, mashing combat.

First Nier was better

It's almost as if people have different tastes and what someone thinks is good is not going to be good for you. And no, "Your taste is shit" is not an argument.

I know you're baiting but at least try to put some effort into it.

Too bad not one of them is fleshed out, all of them are mediocre or easy. It's just mashing together sections with no depth or thought given to how they fit together. The shoot em up sections are especially shallow and bad

Your taste is shit. At this point you should just get your money back.

So you never played the game and just parrot the same shit other idiots who didn't play it say.

Too bad you fags told me the ending would be worth it. But then it's just a cliche "dude let's try again" ending, which wasn't too bad but didn't redeem the rest of the game

>y-you just didn't play it!
Am I in a bloodborne thread?

no body said is deep or something you inbreed nigger, trying too hard, huh?

The combat is among the best Platinum has done behind only Bayonetta obviously, and the shoot em up sections are simple but having anything more complex is unnecessary. As well the rpg elements are excellent in that your character is totally customizable, and can use many different chips for different abilities. Personally I wish there were more 2d platforming sections.

stop falseflagging, the game did alright for what it was and it was not above the average, what moved the game were the tweests and the setting

MY DICK liked it.

Oh yeah? Well my penis enjoyed it.

I agree with you OP, this game is so fucking boring.

>boring combat
>boring story
>empty world
>same enemies
>shitty uninspiring bosses
>game forces you through ANOTHER FUCKING playthrough with a putrid shit of a character
>game finally fucking starts after 15 hours of torture
>still boring

And not to mention the shitty bullet hell minigame parts. Seriously, fuck those.

>among the best
You mean the worst

Transformers is less repetitive and has more combat depth. Chips trivialize the game too, how can you state it if it is a positive?

Not to mention the bosses are shit for a platinum game

Transformers was mediocre as hell. What are you smoking?

its japcrap what do you expect?
>just reuse outdated arcade gameplay
>draw really pretty ass
>2deep dialogue/story that relly makes u think, if 12 years old

>opinion
>opinion
>reasonable
>WOW never done before
>opinion
>reasonable
>opinion
>opinion
try harder

>it's always the same two type of threads
I wish mods would finally ban template tier posts like on Sup Forums

Still better combat than Nier

>opinion
Thank you for realizing that, do you want a pat on the back?

Toke Jopic.

This was the best part of the game:
youtube.com/watch?v=BoOZGWV27-k

too bad not even the moderation saves a from its utter shit taste

Except there's now like 5 DBZ threads at any given time, and there's still a shitton of generals

everytime

should've been more like dark souls.

>he didn't even reach Route C

here's a (You), out of spite.

So it should've been like shit instead?

>he didn't experience route E
>where the end is literally "maybe we can do it right this time Xd"
>no argument

I would love to play it but I just cant stand japanese anime story telling. Can you skip the cutscenes? I would actually give it a chance if I can skip the story

You should kill yourself.

Someone unable to determine what they like without relying on the opinion of others should probably refrain from addressing anything related to philosophy. Entry level or otherwise.

You have the mindset of someone incapable of making even the most basic of decisions without peer pressure to lead the way. By the sound of it, it should not have even taken you 2 hours to figure out that the game was not worth playing, yet you played it anyway. Because you had nobody around to make the correct decision for you. Truly sad.

huh? do i have to point out your shitty bait? The end was more about reviving them and solving things between them since their memories will still be recovered, not just "they will do something different", check yourself retard.

>cringy anime
I'm truly starting to get the sense that people who talk about "cringy anime" or "lol this is just random" are people who have led sheltered lives and not experienced a wide variety of media. Likewise, these are usually the same sort of people who see something they don't understand and instantly conclude it must have been engineered from a perspective of making no sense. They are the kind of people who, if they were creative types, would likely work at a garbage producing manufactory like BioWare, Bethesda, or Gearbox - they are comfortable in their belief bubble of nothing making any sense, so they are happy churning out garbage that can barely be considered contiguous.
This is really what separates the East from the West in game creation - a Japanese author will perform the due diligence of trying to explain how things work - a Western author will spare the audience the trouble, and declare it just works.

yes you can

Faggot, just answer my question, I dont care about your gay 2deep story, just want that juicy platinum gameplay

It's an opinion that an average person would agree with unless they just love weebshit or they stopped playing after route A.

Ok thank you dude

Holy shit I realize the defenders of the game don't even know the main theme, which is about fighting against your nature. The revival is useless because 2B and 9S will kill each other again, like they always did, unless they somehow overcome their nature. The pods even say that to you

Don't. The gameplay is mediocre

>>themes are shoved in your face, no subtlety at all (especially the robot fucking scene, that was embarrassing)
From what I've read on Sup Forums most people think the theme was "nature of humanity" or "are AI real human beans", though I didn't get that impression at all.

The game has two themes: the absurdist/existentialist theme of finding what you live for (or, rather, finding out you don't need some external reason) and the theme of obsessively clinging to the past.

The main theme is most prominent through the main plot, especially considering the humanity - the allegory for your reasons to live, unshaken beliefs, something unreachable yet something you constantly yearn for. Over the course of the game main character (9S) first has his will to live, in both humanity and 2B. Then he loses them one after another, after which the nihilism came over him. He believes in nothing, only desires destruction of the machines. And still, in the end he finds his own peace (by the memories of 2B, no less). In the last dialogue between bots they basically say that life is worth it just for the fact that you are living. Nothing more is needed. You may feel bad, lost, broken, but, sometimes with the help of other people (hence the credits), you can and should live.

The second theme, as I've said, is about longing for your own past. The whole game is full of this dream-like atmosphere of nostalgia. For all intents and purposes, both androids and machines are "human". They feel emotions, they eat just because it feels good, take showers and so on. And yet they all strive to be like humans, and in this process they repeat the mistakes of the past. Though androids accuse machines of doing it, they are themselves fully guilty of it. There's also Adam, who superficially looked at the past and decided he understood it all. But maybe someday, we can finally move forward without looking back (that is A2's ending with the rocket launching into space).

>weebs actually believe this
Good anime show, not tell. Shit anime has to explain every single detail because they know their audience are retarded kids. Nier falls somewhere in the middle, but the dialogue still sucks

Fuck I just want some solid character action since I cant play Bayo 2 and I already played all platinums

Emulate Bayo 2 if you so wish to. Some glitches but it still works

I dont like piracy and emulation, also my pc is a toaster

Don't ever listen to Sup Forums OP

>explain every single detail
Naturally, you assume I mean walls of text exposition, because if there's one thing two-bit Western authors love, it's their walls of text. Not to say that Japanese are immune to doing this, of course - but anyone who starts off talking about "anime" as a single entity is simply showing themselves to be uneducated.

The best part of the game is the music.

but muh deep symbolism, muh babbies first existentialism

Let's just forget about the mediocre gameplay

>The revival is useless because 2B and 9S will kill each other again
She was only killing him because of the project, even then she was only killing him because one of his previous incarnations asked for it when she tried to commit suicide, and he did it so that they could be together at least this way. By nature she's unfit to even hold a weapon.
How does it feels to misunderstand the story so much?

>she's only killing him because of the project
And also because she is programmed to do so
Do you even know her purpose? She was made to kill 9S when he crossed the line

There's no programming that forces her to do it. There's just no other choice.
In prequel novel she literally tried to kill herself instead of killing him, then gave him her own weapon so he could do it when he stopped her.

Every anime suffer from the same things, some moreso than others

I tried to play this game because I'm into Platinum, weebshit, waifubait and such, the soundtrack is great so on paper this was a game made for me, but I couldn't even get past the shitty menu.

Maybe I was just in a bad mood. I'll try to play it again some other time.

you're really retarded, you know perfectly damn well they're not really bound to that, 9S wanted to die, 2B made his wish true, not unreasonable at all

9S/2B revival is pointless because their development effectively ended with Routes C/D.

Ending E was pretty much all about the pods overcoming their progtamming, and that one ending did more in 30 minutes than all the other routes combined.

I find the claim of "baby's first existentialism" is weird because existentialism is baby's first philosophy, there isnt a whole lot to the concept.

>Life has no intrinsic meaning
>Go find your own

Wowee zowee thats complex.

>game literally saved Platinum, with Kamiya giving his personal thanks to Taro for this
>even mainstream game journos usually dismissing japanese games found it deeply touching and uplifting
>Sup Forums yet again proves its title of contrarian echochamber shithole
How does it feels to know that you will never change the positive opinion about this game?

I'm glad Automata gave Taro and Platinum the boost they needed, but that wont stop me from calling out all the stupid shit that couldve been avoided with that game.

>9S/2B revival is pointless because their development effectively ended with Routes C/D.
It's nowhere nearly pointless because both of them ultimately struggled to be together after the war and succeeded, even though the hope was vague. They have a whole life ahead of them now.

Well feel free to autistically screech into nothingness while everyone else enjoyed the game month ago.

>UHHHHHHH MY GAME'S WEIRD LOL I LOVE NIHILISM NOTHING MATTERS EVERYTHING DIES LOL
>2B IS MAI WAIFU LOL THICCCC XDD I LOVE BIG BUTT UNGA BUNGA I;M WHITE BUT I ACT LIKE IM A FUCKING NIGGER XD
>XD ITS PASCAL LOL MY NAME IS PASCAL AND I HAVE METAL JOINTS XD TOTALLY NOT A CHRONO TRIGGER RIPOFF BTW TOTALLY ORIGINAL BASD YOKO TARO
>XD GAMERS REMEMBER DRAKENGARD??? WE'RE GONNA REFERENCE IT EVERY FIVE MINUTES XD DRAKENGARD REFERENCE XD NOSTALGIA 90'S KIDS XDDD
>WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB 2B I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE!!! PICKLE NINES!!! XD GOD ISN'T REAL NIETZCHE IS LOVE NIETZCHE IS LIFE
>XDDD ITS ME EMIL REMEMBER NIER 1 KIDS? XD I LOVE WACKY EMIL HES SO FUNNY IM GONNA CRITICIZE DARK SOULS AND STAR WARS FOR BLATANT NOSTALGIA PANDERING BUT ITS OKAY WHEN TARO DOES IT XD
>XD 2B IS KAINE GUYS GOTTA PANDER TO TRANNY AND FUTA FAGS XD BUT TOTALLY NOT AN SJW GAME OK
>XDD EVERYONE DIES AT THE END BUT WAIT POWER OF FRIENDSHIP THE BABY ROBOT FRIENDS BROUGHT HTEM BACK TO LIFE HAPPY ENDING AWWWWWWWWWW YOKO TARO DOES IT AGIN WAT A JENIUS
>XDD ACCORD CAMEO XD XDD REMEMBER PAPA NIER??? OMG THE FEELS IRON PIPE ;_;
>XDD WE NAMED HALF THE GAME AFTER PHILOSPHERS CUZ ITS DEEP LOL XD
Epic. Literally fucking epic. Gas the Nier fanbase and slice Yoko Taro's obese throat open. For the love of all that is good, if you ever consider buying this abomination, go get a testosterone shot and buy PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS instead.

They didnt suceed anything, the pods gave them a lifeline, thats why its ineffective.

Niers Ending E made a very similar mistake, but thankfully it was cut from the game.

>you don't know
>then starts explaining that he didn't understood shit either
kek

Yes, I am free to do that.

autism

Pods were only able to save them because they were greatly influenced by them, without their struggle they would still be simple YoRHa bots without a mind of their own.
And it's very effective given that thing that separated 2B and 9S on route C fucked off from the planet forever.

You should stop embarrassing yourself

Reddits the other way champ

You miss the point, 2B/9S failed at securing their own future and essentially did nothing but fuck off and die, thats why the magical handwave for them to live again is ultimately meh.

9S getting over himself and dying/leaving was infinitely more interesting than a happily ever after with nothing really learned.

>I LOVE NIHILISM NOTHING MATTERS EVERYTHING DIES LOL
The game is exact opposite, though. The main message of the game is that we should live. I mean, I know you're just shitposting, but that's a preconception I've seen too many people have.

As I was saying for 3 months, automatafags are retarded, there's no point in arguing with them, they are ready to forgive any flaw the game has. They will ignore all your arguments and respond with "brainlet" and "contrarian". Ironic, isn't it?

>2B/9S failed at securing their own future
That's because the entire fucking setting was against it.
The very fact 2B sacrificed herself for him instead of killing him and that he stopped hating machines on a brink of death shows that they were able to change.
Pods are just witnesses of their struggle and development that was going on for 3 years before the events already.

People are not immediately contrarians purely for disagreeing with the popular consensus.

When the only argument they can provide is that the game is "cringy weebshit", you know that you found shit eating contrarians of the lowest quality.

And as a results, the pods mere much better at getting the games ideas across. I daresay the game dosent even really start until Ending C, but E is still the actual meat of it.

Too much loreshit got in the way of 9S & 2B being anything interesting in the game itself, all you really get out of them is "aww theyre in wuv", but the best parts of that are buried in fluff.

please better be baiting

If you ever bothered to look at the Steam page for Automata, you'd see that the majority of negative reviews are about the PC version being a shitty port, not the game being bad.

>implying the dialogue isn't cringe as fuck especially with that voice acting
9S sounds like a whiny teen

Anyone thinking Automata is some smart game hasnt played many games. It has its merits but much of it is Taro reheating his own tropes and shit from other games.

>And as a results, the pods mere much better at getting the games ideas across
Pods alone don't amount to anything, the entire game is about two pods and their androids, remove one of them and ending E won't be achieved.
>Too much loreshit got in the way of 9S & 2B being anything interesting in the game itself
Replaying route A after finishing the game is one of the best experiences this game provides because you're able to re-thin virtually all of their interactions and find new maning in them.
It's not just love though it's an extremely important point, it's generally the theme of two lonely children thrown into meaningless and hostile world that makes them interesting. And Gathering Keepsakes/flight unit message are some of the most powerful scenes i've seen in games.

I don't really get ending E.

I understand the pods reviving 2E / 9S / A2 and stuff but how are they going to start over and hope for a different outcome when the Bunker doesn't even exist anymore.

I think I've understood pretty much everything but this, I don't see how it can just cycle from the point where the Ark is done for and there's no Bunker / Operators / Commander.

Anyone care to explain?

Show me smart games, user.

Hey how about that post Are you going to ignore all arguments again? While I don't agree with his opinion that music is bad, everything else is on point. I will also add myself that 90% of side quests are mmo-style fetch quests, I can't remember the last JRPG with side quests this boring.

Because the machines are still on earth thus will more than likely start shit again.

At least thats what i got out of it.

>can just cycle from the point
There's no cycle aside from a cycle of 9S' death and it was stopped with the destruction of Bunker.
Nobody is going to start the things over, in fact timeline shows that androids and machines signed a peace treaty and machines created their own caste society.

I can fit that meaningless greentext to any game i dislike.

These are the only legitimate arguments against Automata I've seen so far, I'm starting to see this game in a worse light because of you