What's bad about it?

What's bad about it?
I thought it was the deepest FF yet.

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>deepest FF
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Combat was a clusterfuck without any real control over it

Story elements, cutscenes and areas of the game were unfinished

That's the biggest probs

He got lucky, that's all.

Something can be good whilst also being unfinished you moron

>the deepest FF yet
literally trolling

No shit nigger, he asked what was wrong about it is so I told him. Fucking mong. Shipping a totally unfinished game deserves some criticism, don't care if it had a long development cycle

Well that's your poor opinion

Not an opinion retard, the devs have copped to it being totally unfinished. The showy part near the train was supposed to be an entire overworld map and they made it some dinky little area with a single boss. Same thing with future night time Eos.

They fleshed that overworld out in the Excellent DLC.

XV-kun please make love to me. Play with my boipussi. Give me your glorious seed. I am homo for you.

>He got lucky
You can't die while Armiger is up and equalizer/always crit food guarantees your damage is high enough to annihilate her regardless of level, there is no luck involved.

So?

So please play with my boipussi

There is literally not a single redeeming factor about XV. Combat is dogshit, story is awful, world is lifeless and boring, shit sidequests, characters are flat and nobody except Noctis and Ardyn matters. Genuine 4/10.

Why are you giving it 4/10? I think it deserve 1/10. Is that pity point?

*swallows*
More!~

It's still mostly functional outside of abominations like the Leviathan fight and despite my dislike of it it's not complete shovelware tier.

So you were wrong and XV's deep as a puddle.

Shut up

I really enjoyed it.

I enjoyed it a lot more than XIII and WAY more than XIV.

This is a game where it's not the fanbase that's annoying, the HATE-base is annoying because most of them haven't played the game.

user you are so kind

My Barry sense is tingling.

>t. cuck

Don't tingle my back any further or else I will transform soon.

I have the collectors edition so if anyone is likely to have cognitive dissonance on this game it would be me.

Its really.... REALLY dull and lifeless. Combat sucks, open world is not even remotely well crafted, there is fuck all to do. Yeah fuck Tabata.

Cuck would be thinking XIV is good.
I found the combat fun.
I enjoyed roaming the open world for hunts and quests.
It's not for everyone but the atmosphere of journeying with bros is fun.

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Its not for everyone? Neither is cancer. Doesn't mean it isn't god awful to have.

You have do be brain dead to both action combat games and open world RPG to find this anything above mediocre.

Just because the game's shit doesn't mean we can't be civil.

People give it points for being FF, if it wasn't they would call it the 1/10 not even a gold star because the devs didn't even try it really is.

There's so much to do in the Open World
More than new vegas

Don't care I enjoyed it

>don't care
>let me tell you how much I don't care

Autism.

I don't enjoy DMC or Platinum action games. I think they're masturbatory and serve no purpose. Learning combos and timings is good for fighting games, where there is a practical purpose being tournaments and other events. But "Action" games like these serve no purpose, have terrible stories, and have combat not surpassing fighting games.

In terms of Open World games, FFXV has nice environments with a shit load of quests and hunts. The music is great which helps a lot.

>In terms of Open World games, FFXV has nice environments with a shit load of quests and hunts.

Barry take your meds and go back to sleep please.

Look dude, I don't know what to say but I put 45 hours into the game when I struggle nowadays to put 2 hours into a game.

>disliking deep, engaging combat
>thinking Action=Fighters
>not being able to tell why different combos are useful
>caring about pretty grafix and padding
So basically you're retarded.

I see them as two sides of a similar thread. Both are primarily based around a mastery of mechanics. But Action games serve no actual artistic or practical purpose. They are trash.

>I see them as two sides of a similar thread.
So basically you're retarded.

>But Action games serve no actual artistic or practical purpose.
Neither does the rest of vidya. Games are about gameplay and action games have good gameplay.

Nobody ever explains why the combat "sucks" they just hate it because it's action based

Guys why did XV-kun keep defending XV? How much money does he get?

You're retarded.

>Nobody ever explains why the combat "sucks"
>hold button to dodge and attack
>item spam makes you immortal
>enemies have shit hitstun, attack telegraphs and proper openings
>no launching attacks in a game with a good amount of aerial attacks and a baby version of jump cancels
>9999 damage cap for no reason
>most of a weapons moveset is garbage, some weapon classes are garbage (guns)
>the secondary attack systems to spice up combat (magic, Armiger, Summons, ally techs) are all abysmal
>shit bosses
>it's a complete dumpster fire compared to good action games like DMC3 or NGB

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It's ok. It's not a bad game by any means, but it's not as good as it could have been.

>You're retarded.
I'm not the one that likes XV.

Not an argument

You've never been to a FFXV thread.

That's all subjective.

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Guys just report him.

*enemies have shit hitstun, attack telegraphs and poor openings*

They made the combat bad on purpose

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None of that is subjective.

Says you.

If there's one thing no one should be defending about this game, it's the combat.

After waiting for ten years I still love this game even with all its flaws. The combat and story could of been better like everyone else says but I would still rate it an 8/10 in my books.

Says reality.

Where are all these shills coming from.

I think you should stop posting this one in particular. This one is definitely reactable.

Your books are shit

Not relative to what the game gives you in terms of i-frames and moveset, either way designing enemies to not specifically telegraph moves is terrible design. It's like defending Bed of Chaos from Dark Souls, any damage that is received at no fault of the player is not good game design.

The moment i will never forgive this game for was right before collecting Ramuh a cutscene plays, Gentiana tells you "the lightning strikes where the stones are" then a text promp appears that reads "follow the lightning to find the stones" the back to the game obvious as fuck lighting in that direction PLUS the quest marker shows where the stone is.
4 TIMES in a ROW have i been told where to go.
And it keeps happening with the text boxes. They appear in the middle of combat when i'm hot and pumped up telling me obvious as fuck shit then showing a scene where the shit in question happens.

No matter how much you autistically analyze frame data, the combat is fun to do.

Any open world game designed around quest markers rather than integrating quests around landmarks in the world is objectively bad.

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Mods will fix it.

They needed to add more skills, possibly skill trees to build characters, and better equipment drop rates, exploring the world isn't fun as well since you don't find anything useful. You know that feeling when you reach a new town in a JRPG and you check out all the stores for new cool shit, this doesn't have that I find, same with the dungeons they don't reward you with anything good. The combat just becomes very stale as well. I blame the food, they decided to make recipes the main source of powering up so you pretty much on a hunt for new recipes.

Why did they make all of the summon fights so shit? Summons are one of the coolest parts of FF and they fucked them up

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I'm telling you though that the webm I responded to falls well within reactable time from the first leg pump. This isn't a bed of chaos situation.

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Post shiva's ass

this

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God XV is such a clusterfuck. I've played a lot of action games and action RPGs and not one of them have I had as much trouble telling what the fuck was actually happening on screen as XV.

Combat was fun, and the interactions between the guys was fantastic, the only bad thing is that the story was trash, and the game dropped the ball at chapter 13.

I just picked this game up used for very cheap.
Should I even bother playing it?
The last game I played was Nier Automata and I loved it.

Just got this and started playing this morning, what am I in for?

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Name one (1) ARPG to come out within the past 100 years that even stands a chance at rivaling the amount of depth XV's has.

It's worth a shot

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Despite the wild praise from one camp and the rabid hate from another you're in for a decent game. Not great but not shit.

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>check out all the stores for new cool shit
That was the first thing I did because I wanted to get all the FF music CDs. Once I got all of them it was pointless to look because nobody ever had new weapons though I still checked because I could never remember who actually sold ethers.

why did you post what game you last played was fag

Nice game , graphics were fucked though

A desire to shape up your RL culinary skills

This.

I literally laughed out loud when I got in the car for the first time and realised it was confined to on-rails road only. It felt like some relic straight out of the 90's.

It's like these useless fucks at SE don't actually look outside their own shitty studio to see how much games have evolved.

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It's the best looking game I've ever seen.

Nah man , it looked good in the trailers and shit but once I got it home the graphics were terrible

>You know that feeling when you reach a new town in a JRPG and you check out all the stores for new cool shit, this doesn't have that I find
The newer towns have better shit then the old ones, same as any FF, I don't get your problem.

>same with the dungeons they don't reward you with anything good
That's a load of shit, some dungeons have the second best or even the best weapons in the entire game, as well as other good equipment, how are they not rewarding you with anything good?

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I was really mad when FF7 had a qte final boss too. Same with X.

>can't talk to NPCs
>no chests hidden around corners
neo-FF is trash