SSDs are now mandatory for modern gaming as games get bigger

>SSDs are now mandatory for modern gaming as games get bigger

s-sure feels good being the zero-loading time master race... hang on let me buy another SSD to install my 100GB game in...

>I don't know anything about computers

>zero-loading time
Sadly still no, which is sad as hell. Also you're a faggot.

only if they're unoptimized early access pieces of shit fotm shootans on Steam. I still use a HDD for games like a normal person.

eh, I literally invested in another 7200RPM enteprise grade HDD today, it's "slow" but it does what I need, an SSD of the same capacity is much more expensive, it's very reliable. A few seconds of loading is not at all a hindrance to me vs instant SSD loads, developers often make nice loading screens and in multiplayer you can only load as fast as the slowest person's computer anyway.

only shitty games like wolfensteins are that size and the graphics arent even great desu

you mean hdds right
sdds are really fucking small for the price
the highest gb ssd you can get for a semi reasonable price is 500gb
that's only like 8-9 60gb games (which sadly seems to be the norm today)
what are you even talking about

You're arguing the same thing he was suggested, though while being somewhat less of a retard. He seems to think SSDs are still only in ~100Gb sizes and that you need several for games.

>get a 64gb SSD a couple years ago
>oh i can only put one game on it at a time but it's so nice
>get a 256gb SSD yesterday
>oh i can only put one game on it at a time; fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

>buy a "500" GB SSD
>only install games I play and might want to play in the future
>300 GB free of 447 GB

Eh, there are some games out there where "put it on a fucking SSD" comes up twice a day in their discussions. R6 Siege is one of them but like you said, it only takes one toaster to hold the lobby up

fuck off to ur --->Sup Forums

That's why 250GB is the sweet spot.

SSD are for win/linux and programs
HDD is for games

>PS4 and Xbone fill up their 500 GB HDD even faster
>Switch has no external memory whatsoever unless you buy it, which some games will now require
>but no PC is the one in the worse guys
Kill yourself op, you stink of Sonyfag.

>that error pricing on toshiba's web that put 500 gb ssd at $25 but i'm in a thrid world country
FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUCK

>zero load times
>100Gb games

>buy a great cpu and gpu
>realize games have slow loading because i should have used a ssd for gaming
games are huge now and sdd's are literally too small
times are just shitty atm

why not just use the hybrid drives?

Link? Toshiba's website is fucking horrid to navigate.

>get warhammer total war
>install it on HDD
>3 minute long load times
>look for solutions on the internet
>all the comments say buy an SSD

FUCK

It shouldn't be necessary. If they can organize the assets in a way that they'll be packed in blocks (which don't even need to be that large, even cheap HDDs can still be expected to manage more than a hundred seeks per second) when they'll be needed together and that those blocks can be read in advance as the previous ones are being processed (i.e. everything needed can be "streamed" to the game engine), it should be plenty fast. If it's really well done the IO might not even be the bottleneck.
It's not all that easy to design though. Especially if things need to be dynamically loaded as the player moves. You need a system that analyzes what will be needed in what areas and sort and pack the assets (possibly with redundancy or subsets expected to always be cached). The levels themselves might have to be designed to allow this to be done efficiently. But some engines/editors have those and it works.
Most likely developers don't bother with stuff like this because it's a lot of work and it doesn't sell. They have very fast IO systems for development so it's never slow for them.

>sdd's are literally too small
No

>buy the newest graphic card, newest processor and ssd
>it still gets old in a couple of months
What's the point?

Fallout 4 right?

You have to update your shit incessantly. The ideal renewal cycle is every 6 months. Remember to follow all the biggest tech blogs to learn which new graphics card and SSD you need to be buying. Keep working hard so you can finance your rampant consumerism, you silly goy — I mean, guy.

I'd buy more SSD just because my mechanical hard drives keep dying, if only they didn't cost like 4x as much.

retard

so wait
If I get a new graphics card that is able to play every new game for 2 years at max settings I still need to update it every 6 months?

>buy the newest graphic card, newest processor and ssd
>most games are still consoleports that dont even need that much power unless you fall for the 4k meme

why even bother?
do people really spend $2000+ on a new GPU, CPU and a monitor that takes advantage of that GPU just so they can play skyrim with anime mods at 4k?

take it back

This is why I used to stick to consoles but now consoles are doing what PC's do, releasing a new platform every other year and it's really frustrating when you just want to play games. That ALSO said, I like my gaming PC because even if it means playing on low settings, at least I have an option to play at 60 fps. I really don't like that consoles force you to play a certain setting and only that setting. Only PS4 Pro games and one of the new Guilty Gear/Blazblue games on consoles let you choose anything framerate related : /

no.

>hurr if its not the best its WORTHLESS
>I can still play any game on 3years old PC with easy 60fps
What's the point?

Two years? By that time, it's practically ancient! New games won't run on that! How will you play the latest games at 8k 500fps on such an outdated piece of garbage? You'll need a new graphics card, the best graphics card. You'll need more than one in fact because you have to SLI them for the greatest performance. You don't want to be left in the technological stone age, do you? You have to buy more.

itt "gamers" who dont know what a raid 0 is
just sell you pcs and get xboxes lolll

uh...yes?

>SSDs are now mandatory for modern gaming as games get bigger
you are fucking retarded, though I see only retards buying SSDs

This! SSDs are great for the OS and the HDD for games and other stuff.

upvoted

Just keep quiet or I will put you in the locker and Stacy will laugh at you again.

I just upgrade my PC when I need to to play a new game I want to play.
Better graphics are nice but overall it doesn't make the games all that more fun to me once the novelty wears off.
The cool thing with SSDs is that they can make things load fast. Not having to wait is always an improvement. Not having to wait doesn't get old.
But fuck OP is right newer games don't fit in them and a lot of them load slowly. Things can't be fast it sucks. And old games that are small usually are fast without an SSD as you have enough RAM to keep their shit cached. They might load slowly at first if they have really bad IO patterns but after that it's OK.
That's something console developers could work on eventually. Some kind of certification that games are fast. Guarantee < N seconds to start the game or load a save. Also guarantee that gameplay starts in < N seconds if you skip cutscenes while at it. Because sometimes it's fucking ridiculous all the shit until the game starts.

You don't need 4k. Hell, you don't even need 1440p, 1080p can still use the highest settings on everything with a system made within the past two or three years. Unless you really really need to jerk off to 4k or 1440p you can sit on parts for years no problem.

SSDs are still expensive as fuck. Wait till they get mad cheap.

>tfw you get a good high capacity SSD on sale for cheaper than a budget SSD half the price
>tfw SSD for windows+programs and a high capacity one for games

>console peasant without pc meme

$150 for a 500gb SSD now

Total War games are still fucking slow on SSDs but not "take a break to piss and get a drink every time you load" slow.

>100GB game
Why have developers stopped optimizing games?

is it fine to run steam games on an external hdd?
my os is on a sdd

>Switch has no external memory whatsoever unless you buy it.
CemU fags everybody.

got a 2TB HDD for 79 bucks today

I ordered a SSD recently that will arrive soon. Do you think I'll have to reinstall Windows on it, or is it enough to place the games on it?

user, this is what RAM is for. Most of the time the bottleneck is loading data from the drive to RAM. Guess what task a HDD is never going to come close to parity with an SSD...

mom wouldn't laugh at me, you're lying!

You should in fact own all the consoles and a high-end PC. That's the master race.

Remember to buy every new console released every three years and also buy all the latest revisions. How will you enjoy games without the 4k output of the Xbox One X?

>No SSD, just 1 TB HDD
>old widescreen flatscreen monitors with good sizes but they're so old they dont have HDMI or Displayport connections and they're only 60 hz
>PC is only worth approximately 800 dollars
>can still play most PC games just fine without any issues
Where did the meme that you needed the billion dollar shit even start?
>inb4 poorfag
No shit, sherlock.

if your old drive is an HDD you best reinstall on the new SSD. its literally a world of difference.

>not having a 1TB SSD
how do you even play Arma or Total War on HDD?

The Switch does not come with SD or microSD. Stop lying about this already, you spent an entire thread doing so

I thought this is what most people do? What are you using all that HDD space for?

What? They remove like 5 seconds off your load time on an average game. Hardly mandatory, they are mandatory for keeping your start up time quick as fuck though, my friend's computer takes like a legit 30 minutes to get completely started up while mine takes 30 seconds maximum and thats on the slower side since my ssd is near cap

DVI or VGA?

>tfw /no standards/ and am happy if a game runs good at 1080p 60fps without touching any of the settings
feelsgoodman
this i3 3160, 750Ti, and 1TB WD HDD still treating me right

You can, it's just REALLY REALLY slow.

you'll basically be getting PS4 load times.

go even deeper, flatscreen/widescreen is a meme
crt is the way to go. 75hz, godly colours, no fake digital shit

>not having 128gb of RAM and using it as a RAM Disk for silky smooth loading

get on my level

I run a 2TB drive for my collection, then a 500gb SSD for a few games I use play more frequently or just want good load times on.

One's DVI and the other is VGA through a HDMI adapter, I'm working on fucking jank shit here because I'm too stingy to replace monitors I had years ago

Consoles just work which is why when I plug it in there is always and update to download and when I put in the disk I always have to install the 50GB game to the HDD anyway.

are you having a stroke because of meme-overload?

Whoa look at Bill Gates over here.

I still use HDDs for downloading and other storage but games are objectively faster on SSDs. You're looking at a 5x-10x level of speed increase.

>tfw you can quickly reboot after PUBG locks up and still make it back into the game before you land thanks to SSDs.

You wouldn't see a performance increase on HDMI or DPort (which is just an enthusiast meme connection). HDMI is just DVI with likely copyright protection to keep you from ripping cable.

If you do it right you can clone your current drive to the new one (assuming size parity) and then boot off the SSD.

If you're that poor you just rotate them around... Poor fags complain about the dumbest shit. FYI if you can't afford shit like SSDs for video games you waste time on while you're poor maybe you should rethink your god damn life.

Modern texture files are actually pretty fucking massive. Stuff like a protagonist's face can be like 11mb alone. When you add up everything that's usually what's eating up 60% of the file size. You'll usually see people complain about them packing in 20 languages worth of dialogue and depending on how VO heavy the game is that can be between 200mb and 20gb but HD texture files are really what's inflating file sizes in games like Nu Doom, Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Deus Ex MD

So really the solution might be putting out the game with textures optimized for 1080p and having a HD texture pack free DLC that you can turn on if you've got 1440p or 2160p monitor.

The other big one is prerendered movie files. If the game has movie files 1080p video for cutscenes expect that shit to explain most of the bloat alone.

How the hell would you even connect CRTs to most new GPUs?

Only if you're an absolute autist about wanting the best of everything. To each his own, I suppose. My setup has been the same for 6 years and it's still adequate for today's games.

This.
Still have a 4 gb 760, and can play most modern games on a medium-ish setting WHICH IS FINE because I'm not some 14 year old fag that cries to his mommy when he sees one to many jaggies on his screen.

>TFW I've been running a 128gig SSD for years and haven't felt the need to get a bigger one yet since it still runs, and with my OS and a few programs I can fit a couple super-slow loading games like Paradox shit on there fine
I'll definitely buy a new one for C drive when the time comes, but right now I've got 3 mechanical drives for lots and lots of filthy pornography and a couple games and the SSD for a few strategy games and I'm set.

Adapters.

Consoles now are just bad PCs. I've been deterred from playing my PS4 because every time I try to play a game, I have to install an update for a game, but unlike Steam, the updates on PSN download so fucking slowly. I mean, I pay for PSN+, and yet I get these download speeds far slower than what my internet connection can do. Fucking consoles.

>Games are getting bigger
>Storage isn't getting larger
What the fuck happened to advances in storage? I want a large SSD without needing to pay a fucking thousand dollars.

>bought new 2tb hdd a few weeks ago
>motherboard won't detect hdds for some reason, still detects ssds fine though
>now stuck with a hdd I can't use until I get a new motherboard
ITS NOT FAIR BROS

Jokes on you the most modern game I have is Rise of the Tomb Raider and I uninstalled that in shame a year ago. Everything else are games that are 10 - 20 years old.

3D NAND should hopefully increase size and speed but we won't see much from it until they really start to take advantage of it.

You don't really need to update that often. I usually update every 5 years and I do fine.

sadly this is the only way
crts are already what lcd/oled screens want to be
check this comparison

Was surprised to see how well ssd works on a ps3 for games like DeS

SSDs have been getting bigger though, you can buy a 50TB 3.5' SSD right now if you have the money

>PS4 comes with a 500gb drive
>discover disc based games now install to the drive also
>nearly out of space
what the fucking shit is the point
gaming died after the 6th generation

they had DVI and VGA

So are CRTs secretly better or is this just a meme ruse?

>even the internal PS4 HDD uses SATA to USB instead of just straight SATA so you can't improve load times if you wanted to

>$15,000 for an SSD
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HDDs are literally at physical capacity. Anything more than 2tb on a HDD will have issues.

SSDs are becoming cheaper all the time; compare a 1tb from last year to now. True, it's not getting cheaper at a rate we'd all like, but it will eventually become cheaper to get an SSD than HDD, probably within 5-10 years.

>being THIS poor
whats the weather like in brazil

progress is progress.
500GB and 1TB SSDs have come down in price and will continue to.

They're better for some things. They have a higher refresh rate and look better for sprites.

>Buy physical edition of KH2.8
>You must install 11gb to play KH2.8
What the fuck Sony

chinga tu madre or something essay