People assume those games are going to be autistic.
Connor Cook
I would argue those games had a heavy focus on story over gameplay. Not only that Japanese stories in vidya give off the impression that they will go full retard thanks to JRPGS over the last decade.
I could understand why Person A would avoid trying them Rubber bullets
Chase Ortiz
Non-Japanese are inferior in mind. At least those aspiring to be like us have the intelligence to realize we are better!
Joseph Thomas
persona 5 is not good
Cameron Robinson
Your mom's vagina is not good
Lincoln Mitchell
P5 and Nier weren't that good, user. They're actually really similar when you think about it, both are mostly acclaimed because the gameplay is a bit less unplayably terrible than the last entry in their respective series
Ian Sanders
God damn you Person A. Always strawmanning Person B.
Kayden Morris
Fuck drumpf and fuck wypipo
Luke Stewart
Here's the thing:
They're still better than pretty much every other single player Western game of early to mid 2017.
With maybe the exception of Hellsing: Shenmue's Sacrifice, I can't think of a single decent Western SP game of 2017. The only good Western game this year after all is a buggy Western multiplayer early access Battle Royale game.
Matthew Nelson
>Person A: why there are no good oranges >Person B: may i suggest apples >Person A: fuck off i don't like apples >Person B: *cannot comprehend*
Mason James
People who disregard eastern shit are the same retards who disregard Western shit. Just play good games.
Jace Sanders
>wahhhhhhh stop disliking what I like REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Juan Phillips
Super Cloudbuilt, Hollow Knight, Sonic Mania, Prey.
Jace Price
Meant for
Tyler Thompson
Wouldn't the correct analogy be Person B handing him an apple grown in another country? To which Person A adamantly refuses because he doesn't like foreign apples?
Gavin Barnes
Terrible analogy
Chase Phillips
>weebshit >good singleplayer Lol. Really now?
Christian Walker
> STRAWMAN THREAD > 309 replies omitted
Lincoln Ramirez
>'weebshit' >an actual argument lol. Really how?
Gavin Taylor
And how are any of those weebgames good?
Landon Perry
Theres also Bleed 2, Nex Machina, Monolith, likely Dusk and Overload. People who say that shit dont play much games and only have themselves to blame desu
Easton Bailey
yakuza is just 3d kunio-kun with a campy b-movie story, what's not to like
Matthew Gonzalez
>>Person A: FUCK JAPANESE GAMES! I HATE WEEBSHIT! >Person A then cocksucks PS4/Switch, made by a japanese company
Ethan Brown
Hollow Knight and Darkwood are pretty good.
Jaxson Green
Fuck me, I knew I was forgetting something. Bleed 2 was rad, too bad everyone sleeps on it because "muh indieshit art style"
Eli Turner
Maybe they want a single player story that isn't about a bunch of teens killing god while piano music plays?
Michael Sanchez
Divinity OS 2 XCOM 2:WOTC Pyre Absolver Cuphead Dead Cells Mario + Rabbids Sonic Mania
It's actually a good year for non FPS western games.
Joshua Diaz
>story Who gives a shit - gameplay and mechanics are all that matters, if it's not fun to play (actually playing) the game then what's the point?
Austin Morris
They are usually not wrong .
Please give an overview of persona without it sounding autistic?
Connor Rodriguez
Persona 5 is good
Tyler Cooper
Which Yakuza is. What's your point?
Levi Reyes
Yeah that and it made me realize how much people hate mouse controls in run and gun games. Its a shame because its some of the most fun Ive had in a run and gun game that isnt Contra, and it really shines on very hard
Adam James
Haven't played it. I played Nier Automata though and it was beautiful and sad and only slightly autistic but what can you expect from robots? Actually a really tough question.
Charles Diaz
Then why play Yakuza, Persona or Automata? The gameplay of these games are just serviceable
Caleb Russell
>implying I understand your dweeb buzzwords >3d kunio-kun Talk english you dumb cunt.
Adam Phillips
>Please give an overview of persona without it sounding autistic? You mean the story alone? Without spoilers I assume? In a short amount of words?
Jeremiah Bell
GRRRR I HATE PEOPLE THAT I MADE UP
Thomas Harris
River City Ransom you casual underage fuck
Caleb James
Nip games are better because they are made as escapist products that takes you to a different world.
Western games desperately attempt to instead virtue signal and ruin that escapism with poorly constructed social media pandering.
Angel Lewis
>he's never played kunio-kun games pleb
Luis Nelson
>suggest good singleplayer games >lieu of trash weebshit that autists would never touch if they werent from japan >but those have garbage gameplay
>h-haha well why play them then
retarded weeaboos should be fucking shot in the back of the head. Its genuinely disgusting that retards exist who automatically think something is good because it comes out of muh wapan. More often than not theyre americans too since theyre trying to desperately latch onto any real culture in the vein of having none of their own beyond turning other countries foods into fast food
Joseph Reyes
the best persona is 2 though, and that game is real as fuck
Isaac Hall
No wonder they don't appeal to me then, I'm not some fucking loser looking for an "escape".
Ryan Brooks
so, i looked up some "gameplay" videos of your mentioned "good" singleplayer games.
persona is a turn bases rpg where combat consists of you selecting what the character should do and then watch a 12 second animation of said action. this is 2017, the only reason for turn based rpg with these kind of flashy animations without giving the player the possibility to pull this off by himself is lazy devs.
nier looks alot like a uninspired clone of bayonetta. i already played bayonetta, ninja gaiden and metal gear rising. there is no point in wasting my time with a reskin and paying 60$ for this.
yakuza looks like a QTE borefest. combat looks too easy. again, there is a better contender with sleeping dogs, if i want to be an asian mafia guy.
so these are the "good" singleplayer games?
Isaiah Walker
You know you can just enjoy them as games user, because that's what they are. You don't have to deal in absolutes.
William Martin
lol
Lincoln Reyes
you say that like every game isn't just that with extra details
Aaron Davis
I just want to have fun and anime doesn't really appeal to me anymore
Samuel Collins
What? I want to know why there aren't any local multiplayer games. Are you fucking serious? Where are the single player games? Every fucking game on a console is a single player game. What game doesn't have the option of having a single player? Online multiplayer only needs to STOP. This is not good for the gaming community. It only leads to more anti-social behavior.
Isaac Brooks
Persona 5 is a boring and mediocre game but you're a flaming faggot for thinking turn based is bad.
Isaac Nguyen
Because people just want nostalgia for shit they played as a kid
Andrew Sanders
>I just want to have fun They can be fun, you just have to stick to stuff you might be interested in. They're not all generic anime RPGs littered with overused tropes, there is plenty of unique games and others that aren't unique that are still done well. Same applies to the west, obviously.
>and anime doesn't really appeal to me anymore That's perfectly fine too. Not all Japanese games are anime styled either, though I guess by literal definition they are all pretty much Japanese Animation.
You don't have to like them, but it'd nice if you could accept that others do and that they can be great games. Judging games by country of origin doesn't even really mean anything to begin with. It's common sense really, it amazes me that we even have these kinds of discussions.
Levi Rivera
>food analogy
Colton Wright
can you read? i said turn based that forces you to watch a visual novel after each action. i love divinity o. s. for example. you select attack, the character does exactly this, next round. if i wanted to see kung fu movie, i watch a jackie chan movie and not "play" a game that lets me "play" the boring shit and the engine has the fun.
Gavin Thomas
Persona 5 is a VN, not a game Nier is extremely disappointing as a game and people just jerk off the story Yakuza has too much scripted shit and QTEs
I want a GAME not a movie. A good SP G A M E
Jayden Myers
>Persona 5 is a VN plus a game Fixed. Please insult games with correct information.
Grayson Bailey
Rain World Hollow Knight Endless Space 2 Injustice 2 was surprisingly good and way better than anything NRS has ever made for both SP and MP (you get your $60 for just SP) Sonic Mania Styx 2
Hoping Project Cars 2 is good Getting real tired of a bunch of cutscenes, aimlessly running around, and filler dialog that has zero impact on how you play. This is a problem for a lot of western games, but it's a fucking problem for more and more Japanese games and people are praising them for this shit.
Jose Parker
>person A: why there are no cucumbers? >Person b: you can try japanese cucumbers >person A: I hate japanese cucumbers they are small >person b: can't comprehend
Christopher Anderson
Persona 2 IS and EP are both fucking awful, I swear the only people who say this are people who like to brag about being "patrician." Even persona 1 is better than the shit sandwhich that is Persona 2
Henry Perez
>It's common sense really, it amazes me that we even have these kinds of discussions.
Have you not seen the droves of westacuck, SJW, and nigger threads?
Gabriel Miller
JUUUST
Bentley James
>Persona 1 >aka 98% shitposts about its old localization and 2% Snow Queen tedium/PSP raping the OST >Good
Persona 4 is a better game
Grayson Reed
A dungeon crawler whose storyline contains commentary on society, as well as individual arcs for each member of the supporting cast.
Benjamin Green
sounds autistic as fuck you weeb
Anthony Murphy
What does that even mean
William White
Well, it's in the premise. They want good singleplayer games, not any
Isaac Campbell
But Persona 5 is weebshit
Jaxon Miller
Your description of persona makes it seem as an autistic game.
Levi Long
What is an autistic game? Inability to communicate your thoughts clearly is a symptom of autism.
Logan King
Story matters too, unless you like games like Minecraft or Call of Duty
Landon Sanchez
Well, it's a different kinds of escapism.
My own intolerance of weeb games can be explained, that I prefer to sink in a somewhat realistic worlds. I want to feel myself great, overcoming my fears, and coming on top of the difficult situations. For that, world must be somewhat believable and internal rules must be consistent. Even in the more fairytail-y western games, characters are usually grounded, and humane.
Japanese games usually consist of worlds, plots and characters, that are completely unrealistic. Characters don't act like humans, they are usually not even humans, but rather some kind of fallen gods edgy ninja assassins. Even if the characters are formally humans, they dont act like they are. Weeb games, just like anime, give us the worlds, that has nothing in common with real world. If you escape there, you admit, that you have no hope of getting better IRL.
Ethan Murphy
This is why I don't go to Sup Forums
Austin Lee
>Dungeon Crawler You just go from point A to B while killing Shadows it hardly counts as dungeon crawling
Jacob Edwards
Sci-Fi vs Science Fantasy
Both are escapism, but one attempts to be more grounded in reality and have explanations for everything that exists.
Alexander Clark
Awful post.
Hunter Jones
>persona 5 >good
Alexander Myers
>May I suggest Persona 5, Nier Automata Why the fuck would you suggest shitty games and some good one, like Yakuza, later? Dumb faggot
Evan Harris
>nier 2 >bad
Asher Price
weeb shit isn't video games.
Hudson Smith
maybe persona???????? the game you were talking about in your post?????
Juan Wilson
It's the guy's sister.
Blake Garcia
Clearly when Person A says "they", they mean "western developers". You should've picked that up after the first time.
Asher Rogers
Mario + Rabbids isn't western you idiot.
Jonathan Thomas
How would you know anything about weeb games if you rarely ever play them, I could say that all western games are cookie cutter urban fantasy with a slice of capeshit
Luke Fisher
>Mario + Rabbids isn't western
It's made by Ubisoft with Nintendo IPs The dev team is western
Logan Parker
theyre usually right.
Alexander Richardson
It is fucking bad Platinum Games shitty combat + literally the shittiest thing that Taro wrote isn't fucking good game at all
Asher Scott
Why would anyone ever want to have someone else's taste?
Jayden Reed
It's made by Ubisoft, though, a dev team in Paris, France.
Juan Sullivan
>person A: why don't they make good games? >person B: may I suggest shit games?
Joseph Bennett
Those games have ho-hum gameplay at best (Yakuza), shit gameplay at worst (Nier, P5) though?
Anthony Jackson
>japanese >good You might be illiterate.
Jayden Young
>Paris isn't western ok
Ethan Torres
>Persona 5 is good Yeah, good for nothing.
Adam Gutierrez
should've specced that int higher user
William Garcia
>Platinum Games >shitty combat
>the shittiest thing that Taro wrote what a brainlet
Nathan Reed
Not everything west of Japan is considered Western, user. We have hemispheres.