The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky

Redpill me on this very recommended game with the most generic title imaginable
Never touched a JRPG in my life btw

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it's slow
it's really fucking slow
I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but jrpg fans and people who are okay with 20 hours of filler before actual story.

Its a fairly standard JRPG. If you hate anime don't bother.

It's trash son, might as well play a Final Fantasy, at least you get high budget trash that looks good.

Jesus, then how do I into JRPGs? I don't have any consoles

Emulate any Final Fantasy on SNES or PS1 and/or Chrono Trigger.

Does it actually get good if you really get into it?
I've heard a lot of praise for it and tried to get into it on PSP a while ago but I didn't get very far into it

This. Emulation is your best bet, and Chrono Trigger would be the best start. If you can't into CT, JRPGs probably aren't your thing.

I got this game from the humble monthly, is the game good? The only jrpg I have played and enjoyed is Neptune. I was planning on selling it for dollars on g2a

its not worth the time investment, nothing the series does is actually unique or noteworthy outside of ''worldbuilding''

It's great if you can get into it, with the last chapter and a half or so after everything comes together being fantastic. Would recommend if you want something comfy as shit to play.

if you are a fan of slow burns and world continuity then youll like it,
many side npcs show up hours later and recognize you as the dude who did a favor for them and i always liked that

Play Chrono trigger first and then golden sun 1 and 2

>Jesus, then how do I into JRPGs?
Play SaGa games if you want something a bit more western in terms of design, otherwise Valkyrie Profile or some shit.

>Redpill me on
How about you go fuck yourself instead

>The only jrpg I have played and enjoyed is Neptune
You must have horrifically low standards for JRPGs or just in it to watch cute girls

It's the entry point to a long spanning series. The gameplay is very reminiscent of classic JRPGs which i don't know if you would like since you've never played one. The storyline and characters are very charming and sucks you in. TITS has 3 games, so the first one is, some would say "slow" but its more of an introduction. Also the music is kickass.

If you want something more modern, then you can play Trails of Cold Steel instead. I've found people liked CS more because it's a more recent game, and then have gone back and played Sky because they want more of the story.

It's hard to recommend. The gameplay is mediocre, the plot is slow, and it shamelessly uses classic anime tropes at times.

That said, the world itself and the characters within ended up being truly something special to me. The games have an excellent way of making you feel like a simple traveler in a greater story. The 3rd game in the Sky series is also the only game to ever make me cry.

Really that was a weak as fuck explanation but it's really hard to put into words.

>Does it actually get good
The game's great from the get-go, Trails games excel their really slow, but really expansive and extensive writing, lore, world-building and NPC interactions.
People were telling me it only got good 30 hours when when the story picks up but I found myself enjoying the insane level of detail in the writing only a couple hours in, and it keeps it up the entire game.
I wouldn't really recommend it to non-JRPG fans at all though. Falcom games in general aren't really good starting points for JRPGs, they're generally made for people who already enjoy JRPGs. These games are so slow and filled with text that it can take half an hour to do things that generally take 2-3 minutes in most JRPGs.

>Does it actually get good if you really get into it?

First TitS game is about 30 hours. I'd say it ramps up about 2/3 of the way through and then really hooks you in with the finale. After that you're a Trails fag for life and there's no escape.

I've played TitS 1, 2, 3, and CS 1 and 2 multiple times each.

Trails in the Sky is basically Naruto if Naruto was a girl, wasn't a ninja, and didn't have a monster sealed inside of him.

It's good right away, if you're looking for story hooks it might take a while. But if you want to enjoy a comfy setting with enjoyable characters and attention to detail you'll have a great time even when not much is happening except world building and exposition.

yeah kinda

Both but mostly to watch cute girls in a funny dub.

>Redpill me on this very recommended game with the most generic title imaginable
ok

Calvard when?

One of the best RPGs out there. Best world-building you'll ever see in a video game, amazing pacing, great story, great characters, great music. Gameplay is alright, but it's a 2004 game and it kinda shows.

Even for 2004 standards it's extremely outdated, especially for a JRPG developed for PCs.

It's great but get ready to be held back in number of occasions

By user, age 26.

COMFY

correct

I usually hate the word, but FC is legit the most 'comfy' game I've ever played.

No, it's not. You won't find a lot of pre-2004 RPGs with better gameplay. Lufia II, Grandia, Breath of Fire IV, maybe Gagharv.

>b-but muh graphics!!!!
No one cares.

You'll be like 36 when it gets released, after the inevitable Remiferia-Arteria game.

>Remiferia
already exists

you're right though, i fully expect to be in wizard territory before Calvard happens
IF it doesn't get nuked in CS3, which it might

Soo...nothing like Naruto then?

>No it's not
Yes it is. Trails in the Sky was extremely out-dated for 2004 standards, it plays and almost looks like a PS1 JRPG.

>better gameplay
Since when did outdated gameplay mean bad gameplay? Trails in the Sky's gameplay and design decisions are literally stuck in the 90s.

Outdated =/= bad.

>TiTS: FC
Mediocre
>TiTS: SC
Decent
>TiTS the 3rd
Good
>Cold Steel 1
Bad
>Zero
Decent

How are the rest?

I liked Sky because it was like something out the 90s. I was fed up of modern JRPGs trying to turn into action cinematic garbage.

>b-but muh graphics!!!!
who are you quoting

FC: 7/10
SC: 9/10
3rd: 7/10
Zero: 8/10
Ao: 10/10
Sen: 7/10
Sen II: 6/10

I actually have no idea about the plot in Akatsuki, is there a synopsis for it?

>Gacha
pic related is the only good thing that came out of that

>CS1 bad

I wouldn't say its bad, it's just that it's the "introduction" game like FC only even more introduction-y. CS2 brings everything together.

Pretty low standards. Also
>CS2 lower than CS1
Kill yourself.

I wouldn't bother getting into RPGs. As a genre they're stale as hell.

I can't really say anything that everyone else in the thread has already said, but I would like to simply voice my coinciding opinion. One of the only game series out there that totally pulls off its excruciatingly slow pace by giving you the experience of Estelle's semi-slice-of-life personal journey through Liberl (the country it takes place in). Of course, "slice of life" makes it sound like some kind of episodic comedy, which it isn't, but if you were to play it, you'd see what I mean.

One of the few games that, by the end, really makes you root for the characters. I care about every single one very much. Getting to go right from FC to SC to 3rd all in the span of 2 years or so was a real treat. I got to witness the growth of several characters (Estelle especially), the resolution of a fascinating plot (sequelbait notwithstanding), and the building of a fascinating pseudo-post-industrialist 20th-century-spanning world, and the music to come along with it is some of the genre's best.

I feel a legitimate pang in my heart hearing this track: youtube.com/watch?v=VvKengpXftE

Chrono Trigger DS.

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I like Lif too, otherwise you're more-or-less right

Do bully maid?

>Shitty mix of Persona 4 and Trails in the Sky
>good
Nope. It was trash can tier.

>le coldsteel is persona

cool meme bro. if anything its more like Final Fantasy Type-0.

>TiTS isn't outdated
This is a console JRPG 4 years before with less than half the budget TiTS had

I want to live in Queens

oh cool they had PS2 emulators in 2001?

Both are shit games with cliche archetypes and mediocre gameplay and terrible "Social Links"

Type-0 is actually good.

>posting my first waifu

I just completed it earlier today. It was pretty good but man, I wouldn't have even gotten halfway through if it wasn't for turbo mode. Without it, I wouldn't have had the patience for all those combat animations to play out in every single damn fight.

The finale dungeon music was amazing though. How much better is SC?youtube.com/watch?v=LaMkiLPa-NA

Fucked the link up

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I played all the Sky games without turbo mode. Kids these days....

You have amazing patience then. If it helps, I did talk to as many people as many times as I can in the towns and did the side quests.

The gameplay is 100% better. But it also turns the anime way up if you have a problem with that sort of thing.

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>One of the few games that, by the end, really makes you root for the characters. I care about every single one very much
I finished all the games and the only character I gave half a shit about was Estelle. Didn't gave a damn about James Bond priest or Nothing personnel Joshua or "wow I got raped, feel sorry for me" Renne.

>The finale dungeon music was amazing though. How much better is SC?
SC's final dungeon has a bunch of various themes because it's technically a whole chapter.
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>CT
>anything besides dated trash
Spot the parrots.

>How much better is SC
I say it's hit-or-miss, but if it hits, boy howdy does it hit like a fucking truck. I only recall the people that didn't like it on average saying it was about a point out of 10 lower than FC, but if you do like it, it easily tops FC by at least 2.

The moments that are meant to be emotionally poignant in SC are very touching, and I won't spoil them of course, but, all I can really say is that I envy you.

Well you have a very hard heart, then.

Floating cities are such a fucking cliche but god damn I loved Liber Ark desu

>this entire cutscene
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Who are you quoting?

I've been enjoying the game a lot but I've hit a ridiculous roadblock with this fight at the start of chapter 3. Is there some strategy to it that I'm missing? The best I've managed to do in about 10 tries is kill one wolf before Dorothy dies.

I just don't know how this fight is mathematically possible since they do about 200 damage per attack and I've only got 2 turns for every 6 of theirs. I might need better gear but the game won't let me go back to Zeiss.

That's not a problem. Do I get to choose who I bring with me this time in my party like in the final dungeon of TiTS? It sort of annoyed me how the whole game felt like a prologue to a much bigger plot but I've gotten used to the slow pace now.

That's gonna be sweet

I look forward to playing it in a couple days then. I don't give two shits about Joshua but that twist with the defenceless archaeologist being behind everything that happened got me good.

>You won't find a lot of pre-2004 RPGs with better gameplay.
There are SNES RPGs with better gameplay than anything in the whole Kiseki series, don't kid yourself

>Axis pillar music
My goddamn dick
God knows how long I spent there but I never got tired of that tune.

Use your buffs and/or abuse Aerial.

Also if I'm not mistaken I believe you can also heal/Earth Wall NPCs in battle.

>I don't give two shits about Joshua
My opinion was that, and my opinion changed.

Grind till Joshua learns Blank Fang S-Craft (its level 22 iirc) then hit them all with a 200 CP S-Craft.

>389073717

>Do I get to choose who I bring with me this time in my party like in the final dungeon of TiTS?
You don't get complete freedom until the last 3rd or so of the game. It's typically Estelle + Plot relevant character + 2 of your choice.

>this cutscene too
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Oh shit well in that case, I'll look forward to finding his ass. What worried me from the first game was the fact he was brainwashed to be a spy and report on Estelle and Cassius.

I'll get to Cold Steel eventually after the Sky series but just to confirm, is Cold Steel set in the Erebonium Empire? They're the militaristic nation from what I know.

That's fine by me. Even just the freedom to change one or two members out is welcome.

I assume you're playing on a lower difficulty since you didn't learn your lesson in chapter 2. Action denial is the name of the game. Joshua should be Flickering multiple enemies every turn.

yep Cold Steel is set in Erebonia.

Nice argument, doesn't change the fact that Trals has less mechanical complexity than stuff like Romancing SaGa 3, nor does it have good exploration as Metal Max 2 or Returns.
If you want to talk about PS or PS2 games then it's a slaughter, Kiseki is a story driven series, on the mechanical side it has always been Falcom most mediocre RPG series.

That's awesome then. Love it when a series shows both sides of a story.

I always argue this too but get shitposted by fanboys who think Trails is literally perfect desu

Trails has average to downright boring gameplay but delivers with some of the best stories and quality writing in JRPGs and that's what makes it great.

I rarely see anyone actually arguing for Trails' gameplay (except maybe Ao's).

It's a game where the enjoyment comes from talking to every single NPC dozens of times. As a result, you get really attached to the characters and world.
Personally, I really liked the down-to-earth plot from FC over the more over-the-top story in SC, but most people find the latter boring. Regardless of the experience, by the end of SC and the 3rd, people will be so incredibly attached to the characters and setting that they can't help but to want more.

>story-driven series
>best stories
>quality writing

Every single game uses the cliche "I was just holding back" shit dozens of times and several games into the series we still don't know jack shit about what the main plot is or what the motivations and goals of the actually important and powerful characters are.

I think the actual systems in place are great, but what makes the gameplay suffer is how repetitive and non-engaging, and easy 90% of the fights really are.

You never really have "fun" with the gameplay until the last few bosses slap you silly and you actually have to pay attention and it actually becomes fun.

I hope CS3 has challenging bosses desu, I was so disappointed when I two-shotted the Crimson Calamity/Vermillion Apocalypse with Rean and Laura's S-Crafts.

Yeah listen to the Chrono Trigger suggestions, it's a very good entry in JRPGS. I can tell you right now as someone who's played all the released Trails games except Ao they aren't for everyone and they are a very bad starting point for JRPGs just because of how slow things are to pick up.

>but delivers with some of the best stories and quality writing in JRPGs and that's what makes it great.
No, they are the most cliched and telegraphed turd imaginable, the characters are all bland, walking stereotypes that repeat the same tired stereotyped scenes over and over again, it's longwinded gutter trash.
And the "worldbuilding" is even worse than that, it's like some faggot with no talents thinks he can be the next Dostojevski just because he can write the most boring, longwinded garbage possible and divide it on multiple games to create an "EPIC" saga.

@389075908
No (You) for you.

You sure showed me bro, enjoy your umpteenth onsen scene with generic tsundere waifus.

The only tsundere in the party is Agate though.

Desu as it stands there are more male tsunderes in Kiseki than female tsunderes, which is funny considering male tsunderes are a lot rarer.

Mediocre jrpg, but somewhat standout because there are only few good jrpg in the latest decade.

I actually have this in my steam library but haven't played it.

I mostly got it I think because it was heavily discounted and I thought the girl was qtaf and it was said to be a good game.

My main question: Would the girl make me feel cucked with the protagonist or is it easy to self insert as him?

Dumb, energetic protagonist with a famous father travels around the countryside doing missions with her edgelord boyfriend and white haired mentor. She values friendship highly and will attempt to talk to villains rather than fight them with mixed results. She spends much of the 2nd arc chasing her edgelord boyfriend who is off on a quest to fight his brother figure for revenge. Ouroboros is literally Akatsuki.

She is the protagonist

You are the girl

The girl is the protagonist

The girl IS the protagonist. The boy's a party member.

into the trash this sjw shit goes

You most likely won't be able to self insert as Joshua.