They actually managed to get the Daytona USA singer, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, to lend his voice to the game

>They actually managed to get the Daytona USA singer, Takenobu Mitsuyoshi, to lend his voice to the game
>They didn't get him to sing for the game's intro
What did they mean by this?

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>intro is by a fucking CN aliased Animator
>not kickass Sunrise, Shaft or Trigger in reference to Toei animating the CD intro and Pierrot animating Sonic OVA
>we could have had a Sunrise Smooth Sonic Mania intro with Takenobu Mitsuyoshi remix of the Sonic Mania theme

>nope, Gumball Comics artist with EDM music

The animation itself was still really good, and it probably cost a fraction of the amount that it would have cost to have it made by an actual Japanese studio

Are you trying to imply that the intro is bad?

Does it matter who makes it as long as the final product is good?

Just because the intro wasn't from your shitty anime studio doesn't mean it was bad

Compare a big anime studio dedicated to make animations for nips with someone who isn't even an animator but a comic artist.
I still find it impressive how Tyson managed to pull off the whole thing by himself. But yeah not having motherfucking Mitsuyoshi to make the intro song was a big mistake as if SoA thought everyone loves beep boop Hyper Potions.

Tyson Hesse is fine but Hyper Potions is absolute fucking shit.

REMEMBER: if you let the OP run once and then let the title screen fade out you'll get a Tee Lopes version of the opening which is much, much better.

How the fuck do I get to this box

Bubble/fire shield with Sonic.

I still wish they had Mitsuyoshi do a retake for like half of them.
he sounds kind of weird during the count down, especially when he says "GO!"

at least when he shouts "GOAL!" it sounds fucking ace

Can you get achievements from in Debug mode?

hesse is okay, the problem is that the intro is completely disconnected from the game's story and just has the characters fuck around in some kind of japanese boxart dimension for no reason

some people theorize that mania had a very different story at first that matched the intro, but they were forced to make it a forces tie-in, so they haphazardly threw together a few new cutscenes and axed stage transitions that didn't fit in anymore

There's a bubble shield hidden above the first conveyor belt in the level, bounce up and you'll see it. You gotta be Sonic to break the box, though.

Tyson Hesse is fair enough but there is no defending that Hyper Potions bullshit.

would an user be kind enough to gift this to a college poorfag

Like I said in my post Hesse is alright but the shitty bloop bleep techno Hyper Potions shit ruin the intro. Glad there's another version with a much better song that even includes sound effects that match the intro made by Tee the absolute madman.
Pic related is me hearing the song for the first time.

Items should be obtainable by all characters. This is bad game design.

Link for that?

>This is bad game design.
t. Bad

Who the fuck plays Tails?

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It happens after you let the intro play itself twice. The second time, the song will be different.

So Tails shouldn't have Monitors that are only accessible via Flying? And Knuckles shouldn't have monitors in his exclusive paths?
You must hate this image, then.

Holy shit, this is miles better than the original.

I wonder why they didn't make it the first version that plays. Maybe Tee wasn't that happy with it.

I could see a couple of reasons why he would be unhappy with it but other than that, it's fantastic and it fits way better.

Fist Bump works and syncs better with the opening then the Hyper Potions Intro.

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When the fuck is a good quality rip going to get uploaded?
All I ever see are line-in recordings on youtube. Fuck that shit. Fuck youtube.
The goddamn game files are available now, there should be something up by now.

oggs from pc mania are already passed around, they're 160 kb/s

>160kb/s
what the fuck
why, sega
has anyone made a proper soundtrack out of them yet

Where were you when TomPoster BTFO'd Patafoin on Titanic Monarch Act 2?

>scanlines

160kb/s isn't particularly bad in OGG (really, multiply that number by 1.5 or so for the effective MP3 bitrate), but it really could have been better.

maybe it's an actual ploy to sell the soundtrack... but afaik, the only thing they're selling are those vinyls

I'm extremely tempted to just duplicate this song in my copy of Mania and replace the Hyper Potions song completely. Shit's amazing.
but I probably can't be arsed because I never wait around for the opening

Are you another fag that plays with a real CRT and nitpicks about a fucking filter?

that sonic going into the ring and studiopolis playing in the background of the song sequence was absolutely kino

i really dont understand the scanlines. Like why would you want that on your led tv? like it makes sense that there are scan lines on old tube tvs but on new tvs it makes no sense

I WANNA FRYYYYY SKYYY HIIIIIIGH LETS GOOOOOOO TO GAY BAAAAAAAAR

BRU BRU SKIIIIIES BRU BRU SKIIIIES ICEEEEE

Nope, I'm someone who doesn't understand fags who use real CRTs or fags who use filters of any kind.
Why do you destroy the picture? It is a fucking mystery.

I gotchu famalam
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>because they don't accept new ones anymore.
FUCK ME

for some reason it still says hidden link even though i already have an account there

>First runthrough as Sonic and Tails
>Get a few game overs
>Do a Knuckles playthrough
>17 lives by Flying Battery

Holy fuck, climb up literally any wall and you get a life. Why did they make Fuckles easy modo?

Hesse's drawings are cancer. They try to look like CD-era drawings, but get the eyes wrong so they look like meme/tude faces. Ugly as fuck. The west can't do anything right when it comes to animation/art.

consider jumping off a skyscraper

>muh grorious nippon sonikku drawings

Theres lives everywhere. On my first playtrough with sonic i never got a game over. Its also really easy to cheese all bosses except metal sonic

I like Tyson Hesse for small things like licensed comics or twitter art, and having a fan do something like this is appropriate for "Mania" given the title and theme of the game, don't get me wrong. But if the Mania team could do a bigger title, with more freedom, a longer devtime, a bigger budget, multiple musicians, etc etc etc then I would really prefer an experienced animation studio do something dynamic like CD. Mania's intro, though it works, has some really choppy and janky animation in a lot of places, really boring cinematography, and an art style that lacks consistency and detail. The Sonic CD intro is better on every single level, but with an experience animation studio, musicians that are actually good (sorry Hyper Potions), and a clear vision of the designers, the CD intro could potentially be surpassed.

Yo what's up

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So like an Advance successor?

Oh fuck me, is that actually in the game

I never actually looked too hard at their animations. That shit's terrifying

SEETHING

If you let the Amy Doll cling to you and don't shake it off in time, it'll flash that smile and then blow up.

>add online leaderboards
>don't add online co-op or competitive
>don't add special stage race competitive with online
WHAT'S THE POINT

if you're talking about the race part then yes I guess but there's no plausible way you should die on the spike wall part
you should be able to grab a ring every single time after getting hit and catch up to metal sonic

Aren't I just a cutie?

160kbps OGG opus is transparent

fucking 128kbps opus is nearly transparent

it's perfectly fine

different user here, I don't care about all your guys nerd talk, just give me those sweet tunes

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The part where you have to hit metal with those mini sonic robots was hell

Nice tail ass.

I'm still mad that OGG never won the format war.
actually, fucking anything would have been better than "designed to be decodable on top-end early-90s computers" MP3

as cute as that reference was (and I loved how Metal Sonic clamped in like the penultimate boss in Chaotix), it totally sucked to fight
really, if I hadn't seen a video of it, I'd have just kept killing the mini Silver Sonics while waiting to be able to attack Metal himself

>the problem is that the intro is completely disconnected from the game's story and just has the characters fuck around in some kind of japanese boxart dimension for no reason

It's a stylized intro you autist. Your theory makes no sense and has very little to back it up.

thank you

Fuck Puyo. I suck shit at it. The Triple Trouble achievement is the only one I need left.

They picked out Tyson because they have connections with him and Studio Yotta was probably a lot cheaper than a Japanese studio.

They barely even had a marketing budget for Mania and didn't even bother with a physical release. Most of the advertising is from their social media and word of mouth. I don't think Sega knew what they were getting into when they greenlit Mania and assumed it would just be a small niche game only dedicated fans would really care about.

They fired the CN guy for leaking a clip. Tyson had to do the entire animation himself.

This was also a low budget game. I don't know why you think blowing the majority of the budget to hire a big studio for the opening animation. That makes absolutely no sense.

You're right about the Daytona guy not singing the main theme though. Who the fuck is Hyper Potions? Like seriously. Have they ever done anything Sonic related before Mania? I've never heard of them in any fan circles. Who's fucking dick did they suck?

>17 lives
>By Flying Battery

Nigga, if you didn't have 20 lives by the time you reached Chemical Plant Zone Act 2 then something is wrong with you

When the Game Gear mecha Sonic came out I thought the game was going to make me fight every mecha sonic the series had one after another. When the tiny Sonic died in out hit and a second one came out I got really disappointed and figured I had to use them in some way.

I don't even remember how I figured out that I had to bounce them into metal Sonic. i think it was completely on accident.

If there's a Mania 2 I genuinely hope Sega keeps the budget small again. The more money publishers throw at a game, the worse it always seems to be.

What do I have to do to get this achievment?
Beat act 1 of the last level really fast?

(You)

What are you supposed to do to get Professional Hedgehog?

WHERE
IS
THE
FUCKING
TORREEEEEEEEEEEEENT

>already blows its load before the elevator opens
>lyrics and overall composition doesn't match the animation's tone or the characters' interactions
>only ever syncs up with Sonic entering and leaving Studiopolis

Yeah the Hyper Potions song wasn't great, but you're going to strain yourself if you keep reaching that hard.

not get hit

Get through Titanic Monarch act 1 without getting hit.

No hit clear

It's a fucking nightmare as Knuckles, strictly because of the boss and Knuckles jump height .

Does it count if I make it through with Super?

>meme/tude

In order for a possible sequel to surpass Mania and go beyond, it would have to have:
- All new zones or branch out to zones that weren't already in the genesis games
- Unique Paths for Tails and more for Knuckles, in the vein of 3&K. They should also get unique bosses in certain zones and different endings.
- Bonus stages that give you rings/shields and continues
- Zone transitions for every stage and a story on par with S3&K
- More satisfying endings and a better final boss
- Unlockable Amy Rose and Metal Sonic with unique moves.
- Drop Dash and Insta Sheild together for Sonic
- 14 Special Stages and Super Emeralds
- MUCH more development time

Also, objectively: 3C/3&K > M > Taxman CD > 2 > 1
Mania is close to 3&K and has better animation, even slightly edges out in level design but it falters in the finale and gets some of the little touches, like bonus stages, wrong. They even forgot that Angel Island should be floating at in the opening cutscene. There's a lot of obvious cut content in the last half and it doesn't transition as smoothly as the first half. 3&K is a much more complete game.

That didn't synch at all

>3C/3&K on the same level
Nah

No, like a Sonic CD and Sonic 3K successor. Mania isn't a successor, it's a love letter, but a very enjoyable one.

>- Unlockable Amy Rose and Metal Sonic with unique moves.

Normal people
>"This intro is so well animated!"
>"I love the music!"
>2 million views on YouTube, 99% likes

Sup Forums
>"This is tumblr animation. Sonic looks like a meme. They should've hired my favourite Nippon studio instead."
>"The music is garbage. Sega is retarded for picking this band. I bet no one likes this."
>2 million ironic shitposts about Iizuka

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It's almost impressive how peope here have managed to so painfully contort themselves into disliking Hesse.

Looks like they had two Sonic related remixes before the Pre-order trailer. I wonder how they were picked up to make songs for Mania.

>Defending western animation in 2017

The absolute state of you

Nah, I'd rather they get the same freedom and respect the developers of the original games had so they can make a real successor, except don't cut the games down if it takes more than a year, just give them a long devtime.

I'm including them as the same game, which they are. 3C is the definitive version.
Is there any reason not to? Sonic 2 introduced another playable charter. 3 gave Tails his own play style and introduced yet another. If there was a Genesis Sonic 4, they probably would have added yet another.

Shouldn't you get a 10k Cool bonus from not getting hit?

I swear to god if this is dolphin porn again

It is

The game's been out for three weeks. That's enough time to establish that it's really good, so now all the contrarians and master baiters are coming out of the woodwork to ruin threads and jerk off to their "superior taste." It happens with every new game Sup Forums likes talking about. Give it six months and I bet you cash money that Sup Forums will be saying Mania is a reddit may-may game that only newfags like.

Are you the so called Metal Tomposter?

Is it good dolphin porn?

it's top of the shelf

>play S3K
>try to drop dash
>it doesn't work

>Nah, I'd rather they get the same freedom and respect the developers of the original games had so they can make a real successor, except don't cut the games down if it takes more than a year, just give them a long devtime.

You do realize that the original developers had no respect or freedom, not even a decent dev cycle right?

Sonic games always had shitty dev cycles.