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mithra > miqo'te

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I missed out on this game during its prime. Is it still active or have most people moved onto the sequel like what happened to Guild Wars?

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It's still active enough, but everything has been so streamlined that you will run into a brick wall really fast and the only things left to do will be autistically grind for money to make an ultimate weapon or fight a small handful of end game enemies for marginally better gear that, in my opinion, wasn't worth the time investment anymore since the power creep really slows down at that point.

still gets monthly updates despite being dead.

asura is the most active NA population with around 2400+ players online 24/7.

there's even a Sup Forums linkshell full of degen faggots but since i don't know how to make a discord link i can't provide you with it atm

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Thanks, I'll have a look at XIV online.

WRONG GAME FRIEND

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getting Crystal Chronicles vibes from this

What do you mean?

No, no, don't do that. A once good game now stagnating is still a better choice than something that is pure shit by design!

I mean this thread is about FFXI

You ALSO mean that 14 is a very bad game, don't you? Come on, you really ought to be doing your part to help stop this poor sod from both wasting money and having a very bad time.

fuck off XIV shills this thread is for mithras only

I came back to the game last month, surprised how many erp sluts there are on asura.

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I don't think I enjoyed any Final Fantasy game I've played as much as I enjoyed FFXI.

The setting, the characters, the storylines, and even the little backstory pieces that were meant as foreshadowing for future expansions that never happened all pulled me in like crazy.

Ever since they made it easier to run through the game on your own, I've been doing this thing where I'd make a new character and explore the world.

I've got tons of screencaps now, stored away on an external, that's just me doing tons of silly things with people I met while playing these new characters.

But alas, I must bring conflict with me.

Elvaans > Mithra.

The guy who draws those fit ffXI catgirl doujins is a godsend

>ywn spend 7 hours fighting back to back to back to back to back besiegeds on toau launch on a work night to protect glorious mithra general waifu and teleportaru ever again
>ywn give jewlord naja salaheem a backrub

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>A once good game now stagnating is still a better choice than something that is pure shit by design!
He said he was going to try out XIV, not XI.

teleportaru and mihli are canon

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>a level 15 dungeon in xiv has more mechanics and challenge than any ffxi boss which is tank and spank stun moves or stand on dragons feet and auto attack

KEK

>Want to get back into XI
>Every thread is just worst race posting and "MUH XIV BOOGEYMAN"
Are the people who actually play this game this insufferable, or is it just Sup Forums being Sup Forums?

shoutouts to the one guy on my server I constantly see shouting when a besieged is starting, even in 2017

false flags

>Elvaans > Mithra
My nigga.

>tfw still play mainly to ERP until my dick falls off
>elvaan female

If you honestly believe anything on this website at this point you're pretty much the biggest faggot that's ever existed.

FFXI is like 10 bucks for all expansions with a free month. Figure it out yourself.

There's a JP on Leviathan who does that and he is the friendliest guy ever.

I don't play much these days, but he gave me his twitter so we still keep in touch.

He always shows me his Comiket haul and I am always jealous of it.

I want to PROTECT these smiles

i agree as a xiv player miqo'te just look like lazy cosplayers

i fucking miss playing xi though and often want to pick up the game along with a sub to see whats changed

>shits on 14
>must be shilling it!
Come on, what is with this reverse psychology meme? Unequip your tinfoil hat.

A bit of both, honestly. Anyone left playing is either so god damn new that they struggle to get anything done, or has been playing so long that the game isn't even really a game anymore; it's just how many numbers you can crank out, be it monetarily, or constantly refining your LUA files.

It's a damn shame, I feel like the middleground of the game is really lost. That kind of time where you could play with your friends and just enjoy shit, all while actually getting stuff done because the game didn't need 100 pieces of gear for every job to be played optimally with exterior tools. Gear treadmilling really made the game like any other MMO.

not him but i played both and enjoyed them for what they were/are can't we just have a nice thread that doesn't have to turn into a shit fest?

Square Enix are the most dumbfuck company on the planet, they make two games in the same genre and make them hate each other.

>bring up XIV in an XI thread
>attempt sarcasm
>fail because sarcasm doesn't carry well over text

maybe next time you'll get it right.

Oh, I got so sidetracked that I never made my point. Most people left playing are insufferable cunts because of that. The most populated NA server is literally full of Reddit and their level of 'le snark and elitism.' It's so rare to find someone who is just chill still playing and not a total sperg.

Have an elf for your troubles.

I never spoke to him much since I think he's JP too, but I'd always /wave or /bow whenever I saw him in Whitegate. Haven't played since the start of the year, so I wonder if he's still going.

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so tell me bros is this game worth coming back to? i played it way back in high school for about half a year but had to quit cause time and the fact that my old man didn't want to pay for it anymore, i've been playing xiv for a good long while and even played a bit of 1.0 but xiv still feels like it's missing something xi had

Probably not. It's different from way back in high school. Of course, you could sub for a month or two and do all the plot related shit and drop it.

Hang about, are you claiming what I said was sarcasm? It was not. I am 100% serious when I say it is a moral obligation to steer people away from the cancer that is 14.

>Unequip your tinfoil hat.
XIfags are literally incapable of doing this. Every post that isn't of a generic cat slut must be some horrible XIV false flag, or XIV shilling.

Even /vg/ has less easily triggered faggots.

>It's so rare to find someone who is just chill still playing and not a total sperg.
Play with the Japanese players.

Yes, I realize this is ironic considering a lot of servers had terrible relationships between the Japanese-speaking player and the English-speaking players, but they've sorta had a situation where a lot of the insufferable JP ONLY cunts have left.

For the most part, they're chill. A lot of them speak passable English, and auto-translate will fill in anything you need to do gameplay-wise.

They also make for amazing pals if you're into anime, manga, or video games as many of them are NEETs who spend all their time either playing FFXI or consuming the latest media.

All you need to do is ask them if they know who Buront is and you're in.

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Buront always makes them laugh.

idk bro, i get what you're going for but poor execution and bad timing

my repressed furry childhood still lingers fuck

i think i might do that where would be the cheapest place to get it now and is play online still a bitch to set up?

FFXI these days is a lot different. If you have to start over with a new char, you're likely gonna solo most of the game up until 99 and then some, unless you play with some friends or find a nice LS.

Then if you want to get serious with the endgame, you're going to have to do a shitton of research, analysis of fights, learning the current meta of used jobs, and learning how to setup LUA files to actually play correctly. It's not how it used to be, you absolutely need to make use of windower and its addons to effectively play now.

So if you're into a challenge and a bit of light coding, knock yourself out.

>the middleground of the game is really lost
Yeah, this is the major difference community wise from its heyday.

Having played it recently, FFXIV is such a mess in design.
I thought people were exaggerating, but it really has been designed as a one player game pasted on a MMO subscription model.
Fascinating but but very depressing to look at - though not as much as seeing the way they gutted FFXI with their so-called "QoL" changes.

And yeah, I miss old FFXI so much it's not even funny.

i would honestly be more of a casual player but im not even sure if the game would still be great for that, i know about the trust system but honestly the game just wouldn't feel the same without gathering a small group together just to go bop a few rabbits outside of the city gates

I think their site generally is still the best place to buy it. If you can wait a bit, they often hold campaigns every few months to put it on discount.

POL is more or less in the game in name only. They dropped it as a service, but the game can't be separated from it in the code, so it does still launch via POL viewer. That said, the entire account process I believe is done on the SE website now.

Well, you're not gonna get that for leveling. Once you get a 99 char though, there's still plenty of lowman stuff that you can do with a few friends. There's also a new endgame EXP system called capacity points, pretty much makes people form merit parties again. So at least in some capacity (heh) the game features groups of people out grinding on mobs in dungeons.

>Literal sex objects.

>so tell me bros is this game worth coming back to?

Depends on why you liked FFXI, and your player profile.
Might be worth it if only for seeing all the content you didn't manage when the game was in its prime.
Overall I'd say no. Playing it back now is like visiting your favorite part of town once it's been defaced by a mall, with just enough left of what you used to love to make it hurt.

alright thanks for the info im still a bit undecided if i want to buy the game just to mess around for a month or two though

also post more elvaan

Will do champ. Also if you want to play with a bunch of JP, make a char on Odin; if you want to play with a bunch of NA, make a char on Asura. Not sure that there's a healthy middleground out there, just a ton of empty servers save for a few.

yeah i've heard asura was pretty much where all the americans were playing, also neriwasabi made some pretty ok xi doujins

Yeah, I've played on both. I started my char back in Odin in 2004, played on it until just this year. There was just too few English speaking people to do stuff with, plus most of my friends quit, so I jumped to Asura. It's basically the polar opposite, NA flooded, a handful of JP. Comes with its own downsides though. A lot of the players are loud, annoying, le reddit tier humor and stuff. Still though, I've got a lot more shit done with this many people around, so it's a double edged sword.

Also, I'd be surprised if an XI doujin exists that I don't have saved somewhere. I'm crazy into XI hentai to this day.

I don't play fulltime, I don't play any mmorpg anymore but I still resub to ffxi a few times a year to play around with it.

Nice to still have an old style mmo instead of all these fucking wow clones we get lately.

yeah the xi stuff is pretty great, and im honestly not sure why xiv doujins haven't really caught up yet they're hardly any out and the ones that are out dont really get scaned

>A lot of the players are loud, annoying, le reddit tier humor and stuff.
That was the big reason behind me not playing too much on Asura.

I really couldn't handle the non-stop fetish talk supplemented by the latest le monkey face tier meme everyone kept spouting.

Did you xfer off to another server or just quit? If there was even a medium sized NA player pool somewhere else, I'd gladly leave this place.

>No Mithra races in any other FF game
Oh come on, at least the Bangaa and bunny girls made it into the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance games.

I had made a new character so I could check out Asura.

Needless to say, the environment wasn't pleasing so I just quit.

I used to play on Leviathan with a few friends before, and that server had a decent split between the Japanese and North American players.

An equal amount of players (500~900) were available during all the prime times, as far as I could tell.

if it means anything y'shtola was in the 2nd theatrhythm and shes also in the new dissidia game

SE is open to the idea of adding a lot more characters in from various games too

One of the main reasons I quit playing xiv was due to how much they fucked up the races.

>Miqo'te
It really doesn't mean anything.

yeah i know but hopefully they'll add more xi characters in later

I miss this game so fucking much.

SE ensured I would never play another MMO again. I'm no putting so much of myself in a community and game only to have it all destroyed without recourse by the server owners.

Doesn't xi have that one retardedly difficult boss that involved multiple precision cast weekly spells in perfect conjunction coupled with staggered spell ranks, on top of needing constant interrupt availability or else he'd just full heal himself?
The one that that nobody actually knows the REAL way to beat because the only ways to do so were exploits that got patched, and only later on people could brute force it?

I miss it, too, Anonymous.

What is it about this game and the memories it created?

For all intents and purposes, this was a pretty crappy game. There were a lot of issues with FFXI, it was a giant time sink, and the concept of community was one that had no way of working.

Yet, I honestly miss it. I genuinely miss all the good times and the bad times, the laughs had muttering WUT and RED LIEK FERRARI melded in with the arguments over drops and gear.

Every day I pray for a new game that'll draw me in as much as FFXI did, but I it was definitely a product of the time and I doubt anyone will be able to recreate it.

Especially not with recent trends in online gaming being so centered on "you don't have to spend much time doing things" coupled with "you don't have to actually interact with other players to accomplish things."

Absolute Virtue is what you're thinking about.

But gaming media honestly exaggerated that fight. It was initially conceived as something that wasn't supposed to be beaten by anyone but the best geared and most dedicated of players. In fact, the best geared and most dedicated of players were able to beat it on a semi-consistent level.

The general nature of FFXI was simply geared that way. You had a lot of challenging opponents, even outside of stuff like Absolute Virtue. Go look up Cerberus, Khimaira, or Hydra. Not even bosses, but a lot of the events were geared around making things difficult for the player. They're a shadow of their former selves today, thanks to changed mechanics, but Salvage, Dynamis, and Limbus were really intense endgame events.

>a level 15 dungeon in xiv has more mechanics and challenge than any ffxi boss
Sastasha? Challenge? NIGGER PLEASE. I play xiv and it's just a hallway with bunch of mobs. You can clear it in lvl one gear by just pressing one button, no need to even do your skill combo.

If you want to make "easy leveling ffxiv content is harder than endgame XI"-shitpost at least say something like Aurum Vale or uhhh... Is there any dungeon as hard as Aurum Vale in xiv? Even Hard versions of old dungeons are just reskins.

Whether by design or luck - probably a bit of both - XI was designed to be a world first, and a playground second.
After a while you knew the shop and transport schedules, and if you wanted to go somewhere, you had to plan for it. This in itself made for a feeling of adventure and of belonging to another place. No instant teleport bullshit that turns the whole world in a a UI filter.

Add to that the strictly cooperative necessities to achieve anything, and you had a game that fostered social, even communal play. On that front I found XIV fascinating. People keep saying we're social animals, but remove the necessities to interact with one another from people's lives, and what you have is mostly is a group of barely ever colliding particles that are anything but a community (though I'm probably discounting the fact that FFXIV's design is actually *actively* harmful to socializing too much).

So where's that mobile port?

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>it was definitely a product of the time and I doubt anyone will be able to recreate it.

Another difference I found fascinating about XI and XIV is that XI generated socius, while XIV feeds off existing socius - mostly pre-existing groups or external social media.
And that is definitely a sign of the times. I'm not sure we could get a game like XI anymore as the perimeter of the Huizingan magic circle, so to speak, at least in that respect, has drastically changed.

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Nothing about FFXI (until SE ruined it) was gear based, you could do everything in your basic artifact armor, it all came down to how skilled you were at your job and how well you worked with your fellow players.

To understand why Absolute Virtue was so hard you first need to understand that the game wasn't like other MMOs where you could find out every little detail from datamining and more importantly the devs didn't explain things to the player, it was left up to players to figure everything out. So when you get a megaboss like AV added to a game like that it made for some very tough going, as it turns out there was a very specific method to "locking" his skills so he could be defeated and it just wasn't viable for players to figure it out. He was so difficult and even more annoying to even get to spawn that people just didn't bother.

The only people to kill him until super late in the games lifespan were exploiters, I was in a group that killed the 5th or 6th ever AV when he was released and we didn't exploit, but he still broke somehow.

Id love for it to go F2P.

DOD to focus on more FFXV ports.

Id resub to FFXIV if they remade the world again to make it feel like a living breathing world and not just some background painting you run though.

I think 1.0 had travel right. There was a teleportation system but it was limited while normal means of transportation was planned to be in real time. This gives you quick options if you need to move quick for a fight but any other time you relied on in game transportation.