Why do you hate it?

Why do you hate it?

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
GG AND KOF WERE SUPPOSED TO DETHRONE SF, BUT IT STILL REIGNS SUPREME

S2 balance patch.
Did they fire Woshige yet?

>Stubby pokes
>Most characters have weak fireballs framedata wise compared to SF4 atleast
>Because of most pokes rarely leading to anything and how quickly burst damage from v-trigger confirms and CC combos stacks up neutral is shorter and discouraged because of the risk reward.

I like playing neutral and because of CC normal and stubs its a lot harder with the characters I use in SFV. Bison has decent neutral for SFV character and hes my main but its still not worth it opposed to finding a way in and staying in with CC pressure/throw game.

It makes for a super boring game since fighting games are all about taking even your obscure tools and making setups/use of their unorthodox possibility. SFV feels like people have been playing it the same way for a year and I never got that feel in SF4. Granted the updates were more extremely but I do feel like USF4 had more adaption at the start of its life to the end.

>KOF will kill SFV
>Rev 2 will kill SFV
>Injustice 2 will kill SFV
>Tekken 7 will kill SFV

Now we have a new contender:
>DBFZ will kill SFV

GG and KOF14 are still better games same with smaller ones like Uniel/BB and bigger ones like Tekken. Stop false flagging because of popularity SFV is still super easy to play and no amount of quality is going to bring in those people who only play "popular" games because they're easy.

All those games are literally better than SFV.

SFV is dead as fuck. Fuck Capcom

>GG and KOF14 are still better games

ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR
WHY WONT SFV DIE

SFV has more players than all of those games combined. How does this make you feel?

All these games besides Injustice 2 are better then SFV. Popularity is all you retards have left to defend playing a shitty low skill ceiling game even Daigo cannot defend and Gamerbee constantly rips a asshole
>But they don't win.

Oh no shit Sherlock instead Tokido wins with OSs and basic rushdown and says its the "best SF" and a kid with broken teeth a pot belly who oozes ghetto trash is no2 a game for smart people.

I don't. As a matter of fact I'm really enjoying it this season.

Season 1 wasn't very good. It had a lot of problems. I wasn't enjoying the start of season 2 either. But man, it's really picked up pace. Everybody is coming into their own and forming their own styles The character balance is very good, there are so many characters that everybody agrees are really strong yet there are still no largely agreed upon tier lists. I have really loved all the new characters as well. Kolin is really fun to play, I played her for a couple of months. Ed is my fuckin' guy too, this is my character for life, ticks all the right boxes for me. Abigail and Menat are just awesome too, they're really unique characters in how they play and I think Menat has so much potential for creativity in a similar way to how Urien does, which this game really needs.

I just wish they'd optimize it better, fix the netcode and reduce input delay to 4-5 frames. I know the game is balanced in a way that compliments the amount of input delay it has but I don't give a fuck if it breaks the game, just break the game and rebuild around the new input delay.

Nice reaction image you sure showed me. Popularity is your only excuse to play that shit game.

t. mad animufag with 12 hours into GG

>thinking a game is better because of popularity

I like it. I literally just started playing tho. It's my first fighting game as well.

Not if you include Tekken. Also just like the other guy nice reaction image. Its okay the adults can play in the smart environment well you kids play in the mud.

>Oh no shit Sherlock instead Tokido wins with OSs and basic rushdown

You just described how anybody won anything in 3S and most of SF4.

So does league of legends, does that make it a better game?

>GG and KOF14 are still better games

...

>The GG players don't play GG meme.

My most played game this generation with about 1500 hours which isn't that much compared to some fighters last gen. Its funny I bet I have more hours in GG then you have in SFV. Probably some stream monster faggot.

>SFV is still super easy to play
>people who only play "popular" games because they're easy.
>KOF14 is still better game

lol, you don't know what the fuck are you talking about do you? SFV is only easy in comparsion to how difficult USF4 was. It's still miles above KoF14 in terms of complexity.

Who you playing as?

Zoning is weak and normals are slow, so I can't play a style that I enjoy.

Why did they make every character SF4 Cody?

>implying you play fighting games
You can stop LARPing anytime, you're not fooling anyone.

It's not in 2d

>sf5 babby is shocked that defensive play exist
woah

Nice anecdotical evidence.

You're an idiot user. Like a fucking giant one Jesus. USF4 wasn't half as complex as any KOF game. Each KOF character in 14 has about the same complexity as a SF4 character and you have to learn 3 or more of them.

Lmao SFV is way more complex. This is some fucking other worldly delusion I doubt your response will even be coherent.

>defensive
Literally retards spazzing out.

And people say Injustice animations are bad

Hate to break it to you but early KoF games really weren't complex at all. The "KoF is complex" shit only started with 13, which really isn't like any KoF before it.

i can spazz out because i dont have 7 frame input lag

Started with Chun. I like how she's fast with long pokes. Her costumes are great too.

Been practicing with a friend. No specials, no jumping just buttons and throws. Getting use to the neutral game.

It's really fun, but I can tell I have a long way to go.

Man beautiful footsie in the webm. SFV wishes they have high IQ footsies and not

>UNGA BUNGA FRAME TRAPS LMAO

Indeed, you have 10.

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>beautiful
LMAO

You realise that games like Injustice2 or Tekken7 ARE more popular than SFV, right?

SFV only has more dedicated competetive players who haven't left the game even though it's 1.5 years older than those.

I can't stand watching it and I liked watching IV so part of me hates it for this fact
It's alright to play though

For what they did to Ryu's cr. MK

>get ready for the next battle

Game isn't even interesting to follow because it's always the same 2 gooks dominating the scene.

It's very shallow. The only thing I like about it is that they nailed Balrog this time around. I didn't like 4's Balrog at all.

Tekken 7 is a 3 year old game, familia

Nah, its just boring to me. Everything else out right now is much more fun.

I kinda like it. I only started yesterday though. I already hate Ken with a passion.

>have half as much moves as SF characters
>doesn't even have tag mechanics
>b-but I have to learn more characters so it's more complex
you are fucking retarded

I won't pretend that I like it, but I picked it up after about 9 months last week and I couldn't get a single ranked or casual match after queueing for 30 minutes.

I didn't have a problem getting matches in USF4, a game with about 200 people on PC, so I don't think there's anything wrong with my connection.

There's two specific types of routers that pretty much never connect to other players with this game. Thompson I think and the other one escapes me.

for 99% of it's playerbase it's a few months old game yet still has less competetive players than SFV

>beautiful

mmmh

Why would anyone want to compete in it when Asia had a 3 year headstart? Based Harada

Unfortuantely, Namco used the game's development budget on the game instead of paying pro players to play it.

there is nothing wrong with them unless you are completely needlessly jerking the stick all over just to show off how fast you can do it

>Costume V triggers and Evil Ryu animations in the datamines
Who hype for season 3?

Is that why T7 has less content than every other game in the series?

JDCR is a god

needs more divekick characters.

>gameplan is too rigid for different playstyles live and die by the pressure and rushdown
>v-reversals in general are just GARBAGE especially for some characters
>v-triggers are unbalanced as fuck and are basically anime tier on how many extra system mechanics it introduces in those few seconds making character outside of that state feel really bland like karin
>damage is a tad too high even jab confirms from the higher damage characters hit 300 like birde
>some character benefit way more than others off of crush counters

I like SFV a lot since its not overly defensive and setplay heavy like sf4 but man there are still glaring flaws.

I would be playing T7 right now but aside from the game being a fucking nightmare to learn movement is fucking stupid and has a high skill cap and medium skill floor, Until today I never knew you could KBD that quick.

>costume v-triggers

>Why do you hate it?

For Many reasons.

>Gameplay is fucking boring
>The characters redesigns and changed movesets are not appealing to me
>FIreballs are really weak for exception of guile.
>The crush counter system
>On launch the online was a fucking mess, especially lobbie search. It is better now but it doesn't matter much.
>New characters are pretty boring
>Survival mode is really fucking awful and you have to either cheese the A.I, cheat or get incredibly lucky
>They took way too much time to add the weekly/daily missions.
>Some of the unlockable stages are simply night versions of already existing stages and that is lame as hell

forgot to add.

>V-reversals and v-triggers are very hit and miss, some are great and others, at least until the time i stopped playing, were basically useless.
>I personally don't like how strong pressure is in the game, even shit like gg has multiple defensive mechanics to avoid getting stuck on pressure
>Not only stages but the unlockable content is not that interesting either.
>Crossplay with PC is nice but what is the point if it takes a shitload of time to play every match
>In fact SF5 takes a shitload of time to do anything, shit takes way too much time to load.

That's pretty much it.

I heard about the super version that might come out next year but i doubt it will get rid of all the problems i have with it.

I just wanna play Yun again. He was so fucking fun, even after they nerfed him.

but i love it

>He was so fucking fun, even after they nerfed him.

Yun has always been fucking strong for no reason, even the devs admitted they made him OP on arcade edition.

Nerfs didn't matter. Yun was always really strong and also dumb as fuck. Annoying character to fight and boring character to play because you just did the same shit every game, neutral jump like an asshole constantly and fish with sMP xx shoulder xx red focus. Then once you knock them down start your set-play.

Is it worth getting into for thicc?

I found yang more fun for some reason.

Because Capcom is fucking terrible

Nope. I mean, it's not a terrible game like most people say and you'll actually get some fun out of it, along with some frustration. Since you still don't have it, wait for S3 in December or January. If they add things people supposedly datamined, it'll be a better game.

Yun alone made me quit SFIV. Even after AE and Ultra, I never could take 4 seriously again after the state they released Yun in. Some of the strongest and most braindead set-ups of any version of any character ever released. Also the beginning of the downfall of Daigo's character-switching to stay relevant.

If anyone tries to say SFIV was good you can just look at release Yun and have a hearty laugh.

I imagine it'll be something like more prominent visual changes when going into v-trigger but with it being Capcom, who the fuck knows.

The odd thing is that people keep telling me that SFV has more players, but it takes far longer to fight people online than in GG. There all I have to do is enter a lobby and talk to anyone. In SFV the ranked takes minutes to find someone, and the lobbies take forever to start. Not to mention the godawful lag. I can count the times I had lag in GG with one hand.

This is just the combination of a shitload of animations happening at the same time because the people playing think it looks impressive to shake the stick like they have parkinsons.

I actually enjoy it. It's got a lot of problems though and I completely get why it's hated as much as it is. By no means is it my favourite SF though.

it is because SF5 does have more players, especially because of cross play.

The thing is that it is hard to find a match, even in your region.

In GG you can just create one or 2 lobbies and wait a minute for people to join in. Even in my shithole i could find a lobby to play as many matches i wanted every day even if i don't play the game anymore out of spite.

>FIreballs are really weak for exception of guile

They should be.

You're comparing lobbies to ranked. Try rank matches in GG and see if you won't wait eternally. On the other hand, SFV lobbies are shit and need to improve A LOT. I'll give you that.

No they really shouldn't. fireballs were never much of a problem in any sf game besides some very specific scenarios.

Why would any game kill sfv when sfv is killing itself.

Daily reminder entrants dropped 50 (FIFTY) % compared to Evo 2016

I hate it because every single character just plays RTSD. Even Guile and Dhalsim are best played in a close offfensive pressure style.

>want to mixup your opponent? too bad, every option you have on offense is punishable!
>everyone knows this and just alternates between wake up jab and wake up delayed jab
>turns mixups into boring coin flips
>and if you want to just return to neutral, have fun spacing moves where the animation doesn't match the hitbox in the fucking slightest, oh and also there's input lag lol
>everyone just fishes for CCs or jumps around like an ape

when i win, i feel like my opponent was just retarded
when i lose, it feels like i got robbed by touch of death.
no fun in this game

That happens with literally every fighting game after release, if not worse.

Even at half the numbers of entrants from EVO 2016 it STILL pulls bigger numbers than every single other fighting game.

SFV would be fixed if they just added 1f links and made projectiles and pokes stronger. Characters that don't fit the rushdown archetype should be reworked so that their rushdown game is weakened but their intended playstyle is strengthened. Basically, make the game unfriendly to scrubs

>Guile
>best played in a close offfensive pressure style.

No, retard. No.

they keep fucking up Urien

shits so annoying

You haven't played SFV if you think what he said was wrong. Gone are the days of turtle Guile, nu-Guile is edgy and hip and can rush you down while throwing 5 Sonic Booms right at your face

nigga you've never played ST if you dont hate fireballs

Hello everyone. Tournament fighting game player here.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying fighting games casually. But please realize, that unless you have won a couple rounds at a tournament, you know NOTHING about the game you're talking about. Anything you say about what should be changed or what should be rebalanced, sounds absolutely retarded and it's very obvious. As a real player, I am telling you the facts. If you haven't won multiple rounds into a tournament, you know LITERALLY NOTHING.

Thank you for your time.

It hasn't actually run since the patch in like march or something ridiculous

How come this never happens to me? Every guile is stay away and chip with sonic booms. Doesn't help that it's so easy to anti-air now and they'be given him more musltispeed sonic-booms. I've only met a single down guile, and he quickly stopped in round 2.

Needs to be a bit more subtle but good attempt. Will probably get some serious replies.

I play SFV more than he and you do combined. You're as retarded as he is, because you're both wrong.

Fuck SFV online.
It's okay offline with friends tho.

>Rounds

Lmao

You are the only one who apparently haven't played SF before.

Fireballs were never that much of a problem and were part of the game.

Do you seriously think that you have valid opinions about fighting games' design without ever going to a tournament? Imagine if you played 2-hand touch in your backyard with your dad a couple times a month and then started talking about what should and shouldn't be changed about the game of the football.

Won multiple rounds as in beaten multiple people. When you beat somebody in a tournament, you advance to the next round. Somebody like you would say "yeah I lost in round 1 pools"

Post your CFN.