What's the point of FPS games generally?

What's the point of FPS games generally?

It's about aiming. There's no strategy. You don't develop intellectually, only thing that happens is your aim gets better. You can make better choices than your opponent, but if your opponent aim is faster+accurater he wins anyway.

And aiming skill is in no ways scalable or useful in the real world (unlike intellectual or social development would be). Best player will be the one who, like a typical autist, just grinds thousands of hours playing in same mechanical manner, developing his autistic like reaction skills. These same guys who are experts at games like CS GO or Overwatch can't even utilize their skills to, say, play basketball, drive a car, or lead a team in workplace.

There's rarely any team interaction, or it is forced in a way like "hey this character is a tank and this character is a support and hey this character can boost the ability of that other character". No, that's not actually team interaction. That's just playing different roles.

Sure they are fun for the first 10 hours or something and when you got nothing else to do. Or they release new content.

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>What's the point of FPS games generally?
Shooting stuff

>What's the point of FPS games generally?

To have fun?

What does OP even define as "strategy"?

Quake had plenty of starts bro.

Usually to play it for more than 10 minutes and then come on Sup Forums and whine.

Ugly bitch think she's 2d

The point is that its fun, op.
Ya know fun right? Its that emotion people have when people enjoy things. And enjoying things make ya feel good! So what can we gather from this?
>game is fun
>fun in enjoyable
>enjoyable fun feels good
Fuck you op

I think you've stumbled on the inherent problem almost all video games posses.
After playing for a while that feeling starts to creep at and you think "What the hell am I doing here, there's no point to this, I should be studying or going for a walk or talking to my friend, who's been sick"
A lot of video games don't do anything but consume time and if you're lucky you might have a bit of fun while you're at it. Might.
But it's a small payout considering most people, including myself, can sink hours upon hours into things like Overwatch.

>CS GO or Overwatch
these games are for idiots
fps games of old were all about using the right tool for the job, movement, positioning and strategy on the fly
I feel sorry for the current generation

You are right, if you opponent is better at shooting he can pretty much ignore everything else in an FPS because he will always beat you.
I don't agree with practice however, talented people or people who born with better reaction time than you will always destroy you, no matter how many hours you grind. There are plenty of people who play as much as the pros and they can never even get close to them.

>games
>having fun
not on Sup Forums apparently

If you really can't think of anywhere your decision making can give you an edge or can't think about what's happening enough that you can make predictions instead of having to react to everything then yeah even with practice you'll never be any good.

muh quake, muh nostalgia

go to bed granpda

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR COME ON

i will call granny if you don't stop

Have you ever played an arena fps game ?

There are plenty of tactics in FPS games. Where to move to, how you move there, what gun to use, what grenade or special type of weapon/ammo/item to use, etc.

I wouldn't say I'm particularly good at aiming. I'm above average I'd say, but there are plenty of times where I just out play people and then kill them because I did some better tactics than they did.

I'll use Halo for an example. If you get shot from behind, and you know the guy is probably going to chase you, you can throw a grenade at the wall to your side or at the ceiling, so it bounces down, you turn around, the guy runs right in and gets blown up and either dies immediately or you can take him out in 1 extra hit of anything while you survive with half health or higher.

Another example would be to shoot at a guy and then when he moves behind cover you just rush over to the opposite direction he's taking cover in so you ambush him from behind.

Sure, these are probably pretty basic examples, but you really don't seem to understand how stupid people are online. Or in PUBG for example, you shoot a guy from a 2nd floor window, he rushes into your house to come get you, so you jump out the window and leave him dumbstruck to where you are (if you have low HP) or you just ambush him from behind, or you can set up behind some cover while leaning to expose the least amount of yourself while maximizing how much you'll see of them.

Most players FPS "strategy" is "run at enemy using full auto weapon while maybe aiming down the sights". If you have even a modicum of thought you can out play these people. And if you aren't very good at aiming, than you'll still be able to beat them out by just being clever.

>he hasn't played PUBG

Predictions don't help against talented players. They beat you on reaction time alone.

>but if your opponent's aim is faster+accurater

Stopped reading right there.

Hello OP, your post seems pretty ignorant and stupid, which reflects badly on you
have a nice day

>What's the point of FPS games generally?
To indoctrinate plebes with a desire for violence and thereby groom them for bankster warfare in the real world.

By diluting gameplay of this genre to nothing more than aiming and pulling a trigger -- ad infinitum -- irrespective of game theme or presentation -- elicits a kind of hypnotic affect, which permits developers to essentially copy-paste the same, shallow gameplay into every game in this genre.

The ease of access ensure that those who gravitate towards FPS games, are of a lower intelligence quotient, aren't always gamers per se, and that once the FPS cherry is popped, all FPS's after that are child's play. The popularity of this hackneyed, 'genre generica', evidences the efficacy of the ploy used.

>tl;dr
FPS games are what WWE is to sports or what Dumbf is to world leaders: Autistic shit made to create, foster and propagate autism.

Fps aren't necessarily team based or class based, you know, op?
Also saying that there's no strategy is idiotic, good fps have interesting maps that allow players to strategize based on weapons available, play style, objective and enemy position.

It sounds to me like you're bad at FPS.

No they beat you because they know you're going to do. It just looks like they have better reactions because you don't know what's going on.

It's purely about getting better and competing.

You see overwatch players buying bigger mousemats, buying expensive mice, asking what DPS setting to use on their mice, practicing their aim etc. None of these things actually matter in real terms but it's what keeps them logging in.

In reality it's a waste of time because :
a) the matcher will always put you against similar players, so if you get better you will be matched against better players and so will never dominate anyone anyway and will always have a 40-60% win rate.

b) because no matter what you do or how long you practice, some players are just fucking amazing and you will NEVER in a million years be able to beat them (this is where good matchmaking comes in, to maintain the illusion that in reality you aren't a fucking scrub)

These games live off psychology.

>Best player will be the one who, like a typical autist, just grinds thousands of hours playing in same mechanical manner, developing his autistic like reaction skills. These same guys who are experts at games like CS GO or Overwatch can't even utilize their skills to, say, play basketball, drive a car, or lead a team in workplace.

Sadly this is simply not true on average, maybe at pro level. The best players I know in these games have a perfectly normal life, school/work, girlfriend / wife and don't even play the game that much. They were born with several talents which help them in every area of life. Chances are the guy who beats the entire lobby to the pulp has a good life. People who use this "oh he is a nerd for sure and plays this game all day" are bitter nerds who are below average in the only thing they do.

That only happens after you stop learning new shit/experiencing all of the game

For me moreso when the game stops challenging me mentally

Most games are mindless as fuck. I liked kerbal space program a lot for example, and now I play pubg

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>fps gameplay
>fun

Some cretins find playing with faces "fun", but that doesn't make it objectively or inherently so.

Yes they do, it doesn't matter how fast someone is if they don't even know where the fuck you are, lmao, they're dead if you've got a shot on them

>And aiming skill is in no ways scalable or useful in the real world (unlike intellectual or social development would be).
Give me one (1) game that actually teaches you useful irl shit

You sound like some libertarian cuck

War is coming one way or another at this rate, and it won't necessarily be all that much about money

>dumpf

Haha yep, kys

>fun is subjective
Yes you retard, there is nothing inherently "fun"
What he meant is that you play because YOU find it fun
If you don't find it fun then fucking stop playing

I think you take certain things for granted. Like on equal footing players have equal chance to win or when someone has advantage he "should" win every time. This is not true. For example if a gun can kill with two shot and the average player kills with three or four, you will lose every time if you always need 5. Even if you have the advatage. You can practice as much as you want but if you can't go below than 5 you will always lose and this doesn't take account when you have the disadvantage which will happen a lot.

>Chances are the guy who beats the entire lobby to the pulp has a good life. People who use this "oh he is a nerd for sure and plays this game all day" are bitter nerds who are below average in the only thing they do.
This.

>game skill real world
wow you need kys

>the point
>shooting stuff

Literally proves my point about the "low intelligence quotients"-FPS correlation...

>this is what gen-Z shitters, who grew up with only cowadoody and battlefield and HALO, actually believe
I pity you guys, because all FPS you got are objectively trash

This is just an awful assumption.

What if someone prefires you with a double barrel and blows your face off before you even knew it was coming? What if they have a rocket launcher and blow you ass up the moment you step in the corridor/room/whatever. What if they are long range with a sniper and you only have a AR? That AR wont help you while he one hit headshots you. Etc.

Prediction is like.. atleast a 1/3rd of online FPS gaming, maybe a 1/4th. It's a very big part of the game to anticipate your opponents moves and then play around then, and also predicting what they will/might/are going to do.

literally what are you talking about

People who are dumb suck at everything and find everything that requires input from them boring because they're too stupid to get it and do well and continue learning

Everything exciting in life aside is about learning, even food and sex to some degree, you get bored of the same old shit. Whether it's about unlocking the next piece of content and learning how some new gun works and where to use it, or just see some new area, or thinking critically about how to play the game better and actually learning about physics or something

But I don't play console games those are basically movies for retards

>war's cuming
>left this / right that
>war ain't about money / power

Again, my point buttressed -- FPS are the exclusive domain of subnormal vermin and those who be the primary kindling in the REAL gas chambers.

>...assuming they're not immolated for their kike masters before then

>What if someone prefires you with a double barrel and blows your face off before you even knew it was coming?

THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT COMING. THEY DID

youtube.com/watch?v=XdkDjsBiO58 But he's right - old FPSes requires way more than quarter brain

>There's no strategy
Stop reading hero, eat dick OP.

Is this Anzu?

(not the guy you were replying to)
Then you should strategize more.
Rely on good decision making instead of aim.
If the game allows for it, choose a weapon good for instakills/fast kills (generally shotguns fill that category) and flank the enemy.
Choose the less used routes so that you have less chances of finding someone else face to face.
Get good at navigating the map, find ways to reach places faster or to reach places others can't reach at all.
Then look for someone alone and use your positional advantage to kill him, then retreat.

Works for me.

But that's the entire point. You don't exactly know if they're going to use that double barrel blast, or a rocket launcher, or if they're going to jump out a window, or whatever else they can do.

It's what makes FPSes fun, using all your game sense and knowledge and prediction and movement/aiming skills at their best at all times to out play their skills.

It's about movement with light resource management. A lot of them are war/police sims with a certain degree of area control and strategy so it also becomes about your position and timing.
>There's rarely any team interaction, or it is forced in a way like "hey this character is a tank and this character is a support and hey this character can boost the ability of that other character".
This I don't get. That describes Overwatch and some of the shitty MMOs and Dota clones it's taking after. Most shooters don't have this amount of structure. They are usually more about the layout of the map and your intended objective. In a game like Counter-strike, you and the enemy both know where you are headed but not where you ARE, and there are lots of tools like sniper rifles, SMGs, grenades/smoke that allow you to get a leg up on them in the right circumstances.
>These same guys who are experts at games like CS GO or Overwatch can't even utilize their skills to, say, play basketball, drive a car, or lead a team in workplace.
I don't understand why you're focused on new games. If you're asking about FPS "generally," then you must understand the genre extends beyond a handful of modern games. People will bring things up they understand to be true "generally," but that you won't recognize because it's not in Overwatch. Or you'll say something is a common shooter mechanic because it's in Overwatch when it's actually new and hated and won't survive this console generation.

I haven't played a good first person shooter in years. I've played plenty of other good shooting games and even ones in the general style of Overwatch with abilities and grappling hooks and wall climbing, but most of those were stylized third person games. They were again mostly about movement and maneuvering around your opponents, only turning into a pure contest of skill when you line up for a one-on-one fight. Even then it's often not about aim, but positioning and dodging.

>retard
>cannot punctuate, despite trying

Why deny your fate? You're clearly a lost cause, with no chance of redemption...

It will only hurt you resist. It's not your fault you turned out the way you did -- FPS (et al.) are to blame. But everything that had a beginning, will have an end.

Embrace your end. There is nothing on the other side to fear... nothing at all.

shoot shit
see Destiny it's a good example shoot shit with your friend and get loot

You've obviously never played an Arena shooter.
It's an entirely other level, requiring prediction, insane reflexes, knowledge of the systems in place in regards to movement, keeping mental notes on pickups, map control and denial; the whole thing is like cat and mouse where the roles shift multiple times every few seconds. It's absolutely incredible.
An FPS entirely about aiming is a bad FPS.

Enjoy trying to gas me when I have thousands of hours of simulated and real firearms combat practice, autismo

>pointing out the lack of punctuation on Sup Forums
>ad hominems
you sure showed me.

Have you ever heard of brainless fun?

oh yeah panty quest#123372 weeaboo shit are truly the best games out there right faggot

I don't believe in unbeatable opponents. Everyone has a weakness, no matter how stupid or hard to guess.

This is of course assuming you're not on the same tier but can play the game really well.

If you think there's no strategy in FPS go watch a guy get first in PUBG.

Solo, 100 man free for all

There are people who get first place like 20% of the time. Because they're fucking smart. And maybe a little lucky.

I can usually get top ten with 3-7 kills easily, if I try.

But recently I enjoy just killing people immediately and as fast as possible even though that tends to cause me to get shot in the face with a shotgun

Because I have played the game for 50+ hours now and I've hit the learning curve or whatever and feel like I've gotten almost all there is to get

Reductio ad absurdum.

I play fighting games, strategy and puzzle (co-op TPS's {only} when abusing substance, and mostly the survival-horror variety) and the occasional open-world game... though, the stagnation of that genre has just about killed my interest there.

>It's an OP has never read The Most Dangerous Game before episode

For the love of science, take off the fedora

Thanks, I'm already doing this but it doesn't help in the long run. Either I only get a small amount of kills by not being in the fight or meet someone who obliterates me.

>There's no strategy.
you clearly don't play FPS games if you think there isn't strategy

a player can make up for having shit aim by playing smarter than his enemies; understanding the way people think and their most likely plan means you can think of a way to avoid it
guy has lightning quick reaction times and is sprinting through a building clearing rooms? don't try to out-gun him, instead bait him into a room where you have set up a claymore

you seem to have just looked at something like overwatch or COD, and decided thats how all FPS games are

as much as I think R6: Siege is a bit shitty for the way ubisoft are treating it, that game really does emphasize tactics over run-and-gun: where will you attack from? what tools will you use? are you going to set up multiple explosive charges at once to make them question your point of entry? are you going to be in an unexpected place as a defender to catch the attackers from behind? etc

/generally/ an FPS should provide exhilarating, challenging gameplay and maybe an emergent or at least stoppable narrative as a bonus. And a lot of the time they deliver. Sure, you can jerk yourself off about how much better Europa Universalis is than whatever brainlet pleb shit you're using as a strawman (CS, OW, PUBG), but few things beat that animal exhilaration of dodging and weaving through projectiles in a good Quake map. Do you hate platformers too?

play better fps games

Muscle skill > brain skill