Why is Marie so fucking trash

Why is Marie so fucking trash

Forcing her into to an established group and story to make it seem like a big expansion to the game.
Awful poems that aren't even played for laughs (aside from her just spouting tsundere bullshit)
Shit dungeon

This guy pretty much got it on the dot as to why people hate Marie.

I thought you could ignore her?

She appears in plot scenes, as well as has some unskippable scenes as you enter the velvet room

I haven't played Golden for 5 years now, mind refreshing my mind?

I was under the impression that ignoring her turns the game into vanilla P4.

this
Also the poems might have been acceptable if there were just one or two but they happen so goddamn often it kills the joke badly
I still like Golden, the extra vacations and having Adachi social link is cool

I'm playing golden for the first time now, and Adachi becomes more and more relatable the more I get to know him.

I want to cum inside her while listening to her read some god awul poems

all you miss out on is her social link, her dungeon, and the persona that bestows
it is a pretty bitchin persona though
every other new feature added to golden is still perfectly available

Hate sex is the only thing this shallow slut is good for.

His whole link hits too close to home

Exactly.
>Marriage is where fun goes to die.

Why do people blame Marie for the poems when Margaret is the one putting them out?

That doesn't sound like much.

How is she forced then?

Golden also adds a month to the in game calendar which adds new social events (like the ski trip), each party member gets another tier persona and there is also an extra epilogue but you need to do maries link to access them.

She literally appears in main plot scenes
She triggers some scenes as you enter the velvet room, which you will encounter in your game invariably unless you're doing some kind of crazy restricted playthrough

nah, I'm pretty sure Golden adds more shit

and don't forget that Marie is literally canon
>is OK with you cheating on her with the other sluts
>is the reincarnation of Izanami, while Chad is the reincarnation of Izanagi

Do you have to get Aeon 10 to get that extra month?

Which main plot scenes?

He isn't the reincarnation of Izanagi, he was just given the Izanagi persona by Izanami, she gave one to Adachi too.

Yeah, I would recommend completing marie's link.

Up to a point. In the first hour or two in the game you're stuck with her
And if you want the truest ending you have to deal with her

The one where you arrive in Inaba, for starters

based

literally the only good things to come outta Marie are Kaguya and some of the porn.

That's also a big problem with Marie. She's basically forced on to you if you want the true ending.

>those leggings

I honestly wanted to kill myself watching the golden Anime she was so annoying. Thank God Adachi showed up and saved the show

>Hating the Shin Megami Tensei

>Awful poems that aren't even played for laughs
Are you autistic? They are supposed to be so bad it's funny

That's why it's sad in her dungeon

you also miss out on two events with your waifu, in the cabin and on Valentine's, which is in fact unforgivable

Except they aren't funny, her throwing a bitchfit isn't funny either
and next time you are again forced to listen to them, everyone acts like they are sad and incredibly deep, when they are nothing but garbage.

This is what pissed me off the most, that the amazing events with your waifu are basically being held captive by Marie. Being black mailed into doing her shitty link is bs

That's besides the point

She rapes you on Valentine's day

I couldn't bear marie's episodes and just skipped straight to him
They even retconned plot so that it was marie who pointed to the killer, fucking hell. Also not really related but am i the only one who liked his english voice more than japanese?

the hate you guys have for Marie is how Adachi feels about Narukami

The first, maybe the second time. Not every time.

My nigga, couldn't agree more Johnny Yong Bosch who voices Adachi is a fucking god dude Adachi has one of the best Dub performances. Adachis episodes were so fucking good as well, really liked how they tried to show how Yu really isn't that much better then Adachi and more of his backstory made for a really nice dynamic

She also looks like a Hot Topic puked on her.

Fuck, that hit too close to home.

Almost a decade since the game came out and Adachi is still and will always be /ourguy/

Adachi's a great villain because he actually makes some very good points when he isn't ree'ing about women

His entire motivation for doing the things he did was because he wasn't popular

No, his motivation was that he was fed up with working hard, and getting nothing in return. Despite working his ass off he ends up in some hick town in the middle of nowhere.
He never really saw what he actually had - like the Dojima family.

I like her design
They ruined her with all the tsundere bullshit

>hot topic clothes
>thot half open mouth
>thin dangly hair
nnaaaaah

can literally ignore her and the story progresses just as she never existed

>forced

you forgot the 5head
everyone forgets the 5head even though it's bigger than Yumi's, Ai's and Haru's

>appears in plot scenes
>triggers scenes on velvet room visit
>locks you out of extra content which is unrelated to her directly

Literally three seconds of playtime, even less if you're a fast reader. It's nothing.

>once at the start of the game
>once if you ignore her
>conceded

>fed up with working hard
>complained about being sent to a small town with not a lot of crime and a low cost of living, meaning he'd never have to work hard again

name all the plot scenes she forcibly appears in
literally a matter of seconds and they're joke scenes
optional dungeon only if you do her link

i don't care for marie either but come on buddy.

You do realise it is explicitly stated that he was sent there as a punishment, right?

He wanted to work hard tho, it has more to do with his pride that nobody ever acknowleged him as a good cop.

most people that hate marie probably only watched the anime, hence 'forced'

no one has a vita

>some poor middle aged nigga cheats in a videogame
PHANTOM THIEVES TO THE RESCUE, BEAT THAT NIGGA ASS
>Goro literally kills numerous innocent people for personal gain
BUT GORO WAS A GOOD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN HE SHOULDA BEEN FRIENDS WITH JOKER
Akechi aplologists should fuck right off.

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5heads are cute though.

I just remember you can't auto skip or press triangle to speed up any of Marie's poems in the Velvet Room. NONE OF THEM.

you butchered the shit out of this game's metaphysics

it's more like they don't bother to articulate it properly
Sure, Marie is optional and you can totally let her die. You can also not get True End if you don't feel like doing one more dungeon. Doesn't change tha fact that it's still a part of the story, the canon ending and every other ending is just a worse, incomplete version of it. You can ignore Marie but without bothering with her bullshit you are only getting an incomplete version of the story. So you have to stop her from killing herself, even though you really want her to.
And you miss out on two events with your waifu if you ignore her.

>want to play persona
>don't want to be a sony gger

Can we all agree her outfit is pure boner fuel?

I prefer her bikini

She does dress well.

>striped thigh highs

Don't bully Goro.

I played the Danganronpa series after playing Golden. It was really weird having Adachi voice the protag in Dangan2. Because, as we all know, Johnny Young Bosch only has one voice.

>playing P4G with the voices on
>playing DR2 with the inferior English voices
SORE
WA
CHIGAU
YO

i unironically had no problem with marie the first time i played persona 4. there were a lot worse guys and girls in the game in my opinion

i'm just going to leave this right here i hope nobody minds

Yosuke is objectively worse than Marie.

>2nd best character in the game
>worse than Marie
What?

fuck off yosuke

he can get annoying, but out of the "main" girls i'd say i dislike yukiko the most, out of the main everyone it's a tie between teddie and yukiko

>second best
i don't know how you worked that one out, chie, naoto and kanji make first second and third

me too

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>Chie, naoto and kanji make first second and third
Fucking hell, Adachi and Yosuke are without a doubt the best. Other characters are a good distance behind.

>prefer bikini
>doesn't prefer those socks, that cute hat and nice boots

i didn't realize i shared a board with people harboring these shit opinions

>w-world is s-shit because i c-can't get laid and everything isn't h-handed to me on a p-platter!!
>HEY I'M HERE FOR AWKWARD YAOI UNDERTONES WHICH WILL NEVER BE ACTED UPON BECAUSE ATLUS!
try again.

Why is there always so little lingerie art? Wasted potential imo.

that hat looks fucking stupid and the boots does nothing for me
but i will give you the socks

>Yosuke
that faggot is the worst

don't insult the hat you fucking prat

Are people don't like Yosuke because he reminds them of themselves?

reminder that original P4 is canon P4 and this bitch isnt

I think its because he homophobic so we can't gayship unlike P5 Yusuke

yes she is user
not really
its more of a bro who wont shut the fuck up and stop sucking your dick 24/7

Marie is as canon as protag being a door, which was introduced in FES

Why don't you just fuck the hat?

All the no homo stuff made him even gayer.

Also, posting superior bro.

You can flirt with him just as much as with any girl
If anything, he's more gay than Yusuke

i would if i owned it
someone already beat me to it though

>Missing the point of why they felt sympathy for him.

Haru literally states that she'll never forgive him for killing her dad, and the other Thieves insist he's a shithead, but he's only a shithead because Shido abandoned his ass and cultivated his mental issues as a tool against his rivals. They PITIED him, but never said he dindu nuffin.

because Rise is cuter

So is Chie

but she has gayboy