Why does Sup Forums insist that all video games need to be a test of skill?

Why does Sup Forums insist that all video games need to be a test of skill?

Because VNs are not games

All games are a test of skill in one way or another.
Reflexes, intelligence or social skills in a VN, it's a test just in different ways.

Ideally that's what a game is, in the traditional sense of the word.

They don't? People on Sup Forums do, sometimes?

Why are you a retarded faggot? Oh wait you're OP

If you remove skill, what is there? Randomness? I enjoy RNG-based card games, just like I can appreciate good old goose game. But if I play vidya, I expect more.

Computers certainly can offer more interesting goose game experiences, but even then, the best part of this game is rolling the dice, that little feeling that what you do matters, and you're not even doing that in a walking simulator. Computers offer unprecedented means of handling player interaction, and providing adequate response to it. You're not just making bad decisions, you're making hundreds at every second. That allows to create the most complex games ever made in the history of mankind.

Now let's get to the meat of the issue: what people REALLY want these days is for skill to be accessible, which is obviously plain fucking retarded. Like, they want to be some cool, respected player, the best of the best, but they don't want to spend hours learning and trying. They just want to hop in and boom, they're the best. But beyond the retarded aspect, it also devalues the spot of "top player": if it's easy, what is it worth?

What are the roots of this behavior? Well, fucking phone games of course. Have you even tried playing one? The minute you start it, without having even done anything, you're greeted with stars, coins, gold, points, jewels, and all sorts of rewards. It overloads your brain into thinking you've done something good, which releases dopamine, and eventually, you become hooked on dopamine, and instinctively get your phone out your pocket to play Candy Crush because you need your fix. This triggers the exact same response and addiction as gambling, except it's worse, as there's no way you're making any money doing it.

Then some go from mobile to computer/console, and eventually online gaming, and realize the rules aren't the same. Still publishers try to change that, and playing any modern FPS these days makes it obvious: kills, points, decorations, medals, credits, guns, paintjobs, uniforms... you name it. Traditional video games have been hit by the same cancer, and now hordes of people need games where they just keep on winning. And that just shouldn't happen.

Skill is the only thing preventing our vidya from turning into normie bullshit. Most of them don't even like video games, they've just become dependent on game mechanics for their daily happiness, and I'm not saying this lightly.

Those games are one of the things turning the masses into obediant, passive, retarded drones. They make you feel better about yourself, like you're special, even though you're just as special as anyone else, and they push the idea that you can have everything, and that you deserve it, even though you're doing nothing. Gone are the times people would spend entire evenings trying to beat a part of a game, trying to get better, to learn from their mistakes, to think, to innovate, to put effort into something so the reward is deserved.

One values positive, virtuous concept, the other just brainwashes you and gives you a gambling addiction. Which will you choose?

Because if a game isn't hard, then I'm just doing passive work to get the same experience as watching a movie, or reading a book (but worse, since vidya plots suck dick). Challenge is what makes games immersive and rewarding.

go back to Sup Forums

turn based games exist, zero reflexes required

t. fag with 300 quicksaves

>idiot who doesn't comprehend tactics, thinks it's all dice rolling

Holy fuck I really hope this is copypasta. The grandstanding in this post is almost too much for it to be genuine.

>Social skills in a VN
You do know the only people who watch VN's live in their basement with no social experience, thus seeking out romance with fictional girls to make them not want to kill themselves

Turn based games actually have gameplay, the most you are getting out of a VN is Bejeweled as a mini game

>VN
>social skills

Skill isn't only about speed and reflexes, it's about making the right choice. There's skill at chess too, and another different kind of skill at fast chess.

VNs have too little of skill and time constraints to be considered games. There's certainly more skill at opening your fridge and grabbing a can.

>muh learning curve
>muh difficulty spike
>muh button press timings
Skill is a meme
You cannot refute this Sup Forums.

Are they any games that test emotional skill?

yeah, posting on Sup Forums. You automatically fail by posting.

seeking of artificial achievements because of a lack of real life purpose and meaning