Why's nobody talking about this anymore?

Why's nobody talking about this anymore?

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I think people finally got tired of Mario RPG-likes.

looks like shit

Because it's just a remake and aside from the new sprites and that extra mode there's nothing really new to talk about.

Superstar Saga was great tho, and this is a remake with added content. Unless you mean the graphics, in which case I disagree.

There's nothing to talk about

I'll get it because I loved the original, but honestly, the fact the skipped out on keeping the unique enemy designs and other classic bits of the first game leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Nice, I'm glad Tanoombas are still their own thing. I was getting worried that the Tanooki tailed Goombas from 3D Land that we've been seeing in Minions Quest were going to replace them.

It's not even out.

because it is an uninspired remaster? god damn that looks terrible

I mean, at least they kept the Dry Bones

>They kept Tanoombas and didn't change them into Tail Goombas
Finally, they actually did something right

There's not really much to talk about besides occasional shitposting about the artstyle

This. I felt the original designs made it feel more like a foreign place rather than just more Mushroom Kingdom.

People probably got tired of the over-saturation of Mario RPG games and how they don't look too different from one another now.

Another complain people have is that the art style this remake has doesn't compare to the original and/or they don't like how the characters blend with the background. Either that or just ultimately feel like it's a unnecessary remake.

Graphics look like shit compared to the original.

>take away all the style and creativity from the original art style and uses the same bland style we've seen for the last 2 games
>removes unique characters and replaces them with generic ones

UNIQUE AND INTERESTING PSYCHO KAMEK REPLACED WITH A TOAD REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>there are now more mario and luigis with the DT art style than ones that don't

no nO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

there was a thread just yesterday you dumb faggot

That's Dr. Toadley from Bowser's Inside Story, Sup Forums's sacred cow M&L, remember?

I get that the new artstyle is more bland than the original but God damn are people hostile when talking about this game

It looks like fucking clay and they took so much environmental detail from the original. They should've kept the sprites or at least not this soulless style.

>inb4 muh nostalgia
This remake looks like shit

Is that the toad doctor from Bowser Inside Story? Because if that's the case then we'll be getting tons of call-fowards.

It is.

yeah, he's neat and all but Psycho Kamek was so fucking cool. Why did they have to do this?

It looks good imo. Only real shame's that the traditional baddies are less caricaturized now.

I am planning on picking it up, but it is coming out around the same time as so much other stuff. I'll probably just wait until I finish my backlog of new shit before getting it.

I think Psycho Kamek was replaced because he had white mage clothes and Squeenix probably said no to reusing their shit for the remake, which proooooooooooooobably means no Geno

Pretty much.

Also, just remembered, people oughta be on the look out for that coffee shop segment and whether or not they bothered including the unused cameos.

shut the fuck up samefag

did they also change the fungitown toads into generic toads too? I know they did that with the castle toads

Is it out yet?

>no geno
goddamnit Square

No footage of fungitown yet

inb4 starlow takes his place

It's been a while since I played the original, but I never realized the white mage connection.

If that's true though, then that means no Geno, plain and short. Not that they'd ever bother, Square was already acting asinine over the copyright in the original to begin with. Just makes you wonder who they'll use to replace him with.

list of really good like almost god tier m&l games:
superstar saga
bowser's inside story

list of absolutely fucking terrible ones:
the rest

the question now is which theme they'll use
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There are no bad M&Ls. Even the worst ones (most say PiT or PJ) still have their moments or areas where they shine.

What people are ACTUALLY suffering from is possible franchise fatigue (sixth M&L since 2003, they used to be 3-4 years apart but they went into overdrive after DT) coupled with bittereness from Paper Mario's current situation

October 5 if I believe. Game's pretty much done at this point, they're releasing it later to give the 3DS some life support.

At this point I'm convinced she's gonna show up. The question is now where.

Too early to tell anons. Until nothing else leaks we can't prove anything.

inb4 starlow gets forced as 3rd main character

Is this gonna be filled with tutorials like the Luigi dream one was? That stopped me from getting it.

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Depends on how many new ones they shove in alongside the tutorials that were already there in the original. Hopefully you can skip them.

Starting with the game after the dream one, tutorials become completely optional and stuffed into a Guide mode. That's staying with this remake

yes but they're optional

it uses the same system that paper jam had, basically all tutorials are now on its own separate menu and are optional to look at

Yeah, it's more regarding this. There was a time when I was okay with the franchise getting a sequel and/or different story, now, I'm just kind of hoping they stop for a while in order to focus on other things.

Like, when's the last time Alpha Dream's done something other than Mario & Luigi? I miss when they were still making Hamtaro games, I had a blast with those. And how come they never did anything out of Tomato Adventure, a Japan-only franchise?

>no geno
Christ people still care about him? How many years has it been? Give up he's basically dead

>a remake is the only reason Rexes get to appear in 2017
>a remake is the only reason Toadsworth gets to appear in 2017

i really don't understand the point of this remake. The original still plays and looks great. Just put it on the 3DS' e-shop

Holy moly you can control the Koopalings!

>a remake is the only reason Toadsworth gets to appear in 2017

Who cares? He pretty much did nothing in every game since he first appeared and the 3D Mario platformers ditched him immediately after they introduced him.

The big problem this game faces is that SS really wasn't in need of a remake in the first place. The original game still looks and plays great and is arguably the best in the series, so what the hell is there to remake without risking alienating old fans?

Why is it called DX in Japan but not here? Saying + Bowser's Minions every time to specify between the original and the remake is a chore.

I never did care for him honestly asides from the actual game he's been in (SMRPG was okay, great game, terrific soundtrack). I feel like Mario x Rabbids became the new SMRPG of this time in a sort of way, except with less franchise meshing since the Rabbids are the only thing included. SMRPG had a lot of Final Fantasy refs.

Wouldn't that be all the more reason for them to remake it. To introduce new players to the best entry in the series?

Rip Bink the skeleton not-Donkey Kong.

Do you prefer M&L having combat be on the top screen or on the bottom screen?

>Psycho Kamek was so fucking cool
Yeah he was so awesome in the 5 seconds of screen time

Jesus, literally grasping at straws.

more lore destroyed, thank you miyamoto

>decent game
>not terribly popular
Yeah, not Sup Forums material.

They could remove the awful tutorials the game is plagued with, and streamline the platforming so it's not a clunky fit of "oh now I have to spin (switch, switch)" "oh now I have to jump (switch, switch)" and maybe they could make the combat more interesting by adding more attack patterns

>can't like a character because he's not in the game long enough

things that are honest to god bad usually don't get attention on Sup Forums. this is one of those things. it exists for no reason, the only thing changed is the art and the original looks better.

Oh no, now i have to over react to this being changed to fit in with everyone elseREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

he's a fucking magikoopa that wears a white mage's robe and hypnotizes people. Pretty cool if you ask me

I know that post probably came off like it but I'm not really mad about it, just a bit disappointed. It does make me wonder how they're going to deal with Geno though.

I dunno, I think BIS still had the best artstyle out of all the M&L games, but the DT/PJ artstyle is still gorgeous. That being said, I do think they should've gone a bit farther with the weirdness of some of the enemy designs, like the Koopa with the sprout on its head. No idea why people hate the rest so much, though, it all looks fine to me.

geno is going to be replaced with starlow
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>t SS really wasn't in need of a remake in the first place. The original game still looks and plays great and is arguably the best in the series, so what the hell is there to remake without risking alienating old fans?

I honestly kinda like the tutorials of M&L maybe it's because I played that game such a long time ago, but the tutorials were kinda fun and never felt they overstayed their welcome

This is the worst change by far, would it really be that difficult to make the DK skeleton? It's not like he had directional poses

Nintendo lives in the backwater swamplands of common sense QoL design, most evident in their online play, but the most focused example of how bad it is is their hatred of the simple option of letting a player have a god damn skip button. They don't want you replaying these games, I guess.

the worst change is making it so that you can no longer switch between mario and luigi manually. They only switch places when you select a move that require luigi in front, after the move they go back into position

WHAT

That's bullshit and I don't believe you

mariowiki.com/Mario_&_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga_+_Bowser's_Minions#List_of_changes
>Mario & Luigi's positions can no longer be switched manually. Instead, they will switch automatically when selecting a move

>characters blend with the background
you mean how they don't have outlines and shit?
You can rag on 3D all you want, but Dream Team and Paper Jam two of the games that look the best with 3D effect on, and it's partly because of this and managing the depth and perspective well.

I agree if you're looking at it flat it probably doesn't look that good.

>They should've kept the sprites
they are sprites

why

Might as well call it "Mario (& Luigi)" at this point, part of what made Superstar Saga so memorable was that you go to play as BOTH Bros simultaneous on a big adventure, not Mario herding Luigi around on a leash

What a pointless change.

>It's true
Welp guess I'm not buying this one.

maybe because the gba is a dead handheld from two generations ago, meaning kids today will have no chance of ever playing it along side all the other games(unless they get it on Wii U VC though)
I actually think it will be kinda cool to have all 5 games on my 3DS, the DS games on my cart and the other ones on my SD card.

I never dropped a game so hard in my entire life
What the fuck nintendo

Because it really didn't need a remake. But Nintendo is slowly turning into Sony and just remakes games or rereleases them

They ruined the style of the original. I would be fine with the environments but changing bowser was over the line

Graphics are kinda shit compared to the original....

>changing bowser
WHAT

they made him brown and black

Changing bowser is fine, he looks like turd in the original, same as toads, the spritework for these characters were awful.

>Advanced Bros. Attacks are now separately selected and cost more Bros. Points to use.

What's wrong with that?

I'm a sucker for Mario games, but the rpgs and the new rabbids shit can go back where it came from: Miyamoto's asshole

It's cool that they're making it and all, but they completely removed the personality and charm the original had

makes them less useful as you have to use more BP. Forcing you to manage BP increasing items or just use your regular attacks

It costs more BP to use them, it says so right there

and thats a bad thing because?

>costs more BP
Makes sense. Why would you use the regular version if you could use the advance version at the same cost but with more power. Spend more BP = more power.

>item management is bad
You never really ran out of syrups in the original anyway.

>just use your regular attacks
Also good, newer M&Ls made Bros Attacks/Items far too overpowered, you literally had no reason to use regular attacks unless you disliked how cinematic the Bros. Attacks themselves became.