What if the Internet Never Existed?

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>videogames are still self contained experiences with lots of content not contaminated by DLC and P2W practices
>local multiplayer and arcades are still thriving
>physical media like magazines, DVD and music CDs are still a huge and relevant industry
>culture in general is less fractured with people not able to immerse themselves in any stupid internet echo chamber all the time
>no widespread SJW or alt-right culture
>people are forced to socialize normally in public since phones are of little use beyond talk and text
>the world moves at a slower pace since you are no longer bombarded with info as constantly

tfw internet timeline is worst timeline

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>physical media like magazines, DVD and music CDs are still a huge and relevant industry
This isn't a good thing.
But yes, the internet is cancer.

>no lewds of your favorite characters easily available on the internet
>people are forced to socialize

Fuck off nigger.

>can't randomly spout racial epithets to strangers without consequence

truly the Internet is a boon to mankind

Being brown in a liberal town is amazing

I get told about how the straight white man has all the privilege while getting more privileges than they ever will have

Even redpilled a few feminists with my penis

However, I did unironically tell a stupid Latina bitch to kill herself at a bar BUT NOTHIN HAPPENED TO ME

Brown in a liberal town man

None of that shit happened to japan, besides gacha on mobiles
they've had internets for years a well

Japanese internet is like a decade behind ours their websites still look like something straight out of the 90s.

As if our Jewish overlords wouldn't come up with an even more nefarious scheme to take our money.

>bitch about jews running the entertainment industry for years now
>"physical media like magazines, DVD and music CDs are still a huge and relevant industry"
hurr

>being affluent educated brown in affluent educated town is amazing

FTFY.

Everything stays relevant as long as it makes them more money...durr

Lots of people on here were around before the internet existed.

Porn was impossible to find, unless you came across a porn magazine someone threw away. So you fapped you baywatch on TV or lingerie in catalogues.

You watched a TON of tv.

You went to the library to borrow books if you needed to find something out.

You borrowed cds from libraries (or friends) to copy them, old school piracy.

You rented films from blockbuster.

Sounds like shit apart from the first line.
>people are forced to socialize
Kill yourself you dumb nigger.

>thread full of millenials who never knew a world without the internet complaining about it
you're just as bad as 'born in the wrong generation' kids

Nothing affluent about my town

City is mired in corruption, work barely exists in the town's commercial district, and the only thing that brings people is the historical name but the city is so fuckin broke that the historical sites just have placards and no industry around em

We get tourists all the time from Europe and you can see the light fade from their eyes when I tell em that what they're looking for has been gone for years and every time the 2 Universities in my city buy property, that's one less plot the city collects taxes from

But we still got a rampant SJW problem

>physical media like magazines, DVD and music CDs are still a huge and relevant industry
How would that be a good thing? So many of them were corrupt as fuck, You think websites are bad? Fucking magazines are notorious for that shit. "OMG THIS GAEM IS TAH BEST!!!" then a third of the advertisements in the magazine are from that game / publisher. gee I'm sure that'll be unbiased. And the whole "we give you early review for a 9" bullshit. At least on the Interweb that shit gets called the fuck out.
>videogames are still self contained experiences with lots of content not contaminated by DLC and P2W practices
Or, alternatively, all these unfinished games remain broken pieces of shit. In your timeline:
>Vampire the Masquerade will never be good
>E-sports scene is forever stuck on "I won a tournament, first price was a CPU fan"
>FFXV will be the first patch fuckery forever
>No Total War game ever will work (they're notoriously fucky on launch)
>all the broken fucking assassins creed games
>console tier skyrim - no mods.
>no mods for any game for that matter
>The Broken fucking batman games past City
>Battlefield 4 kek
>No patches to make Diablo 3 even somewhat entertaining, it will be stuck on Vanilla forever until the expansion comes out and fixes SOME but not all, most of the game will remain fucky.
>Glitchy fucking Red Dead Redemption will never be fixed
Your no Internet timeline also killed:
>The complete Emulation community
>the sharing tips and hints community
>most of the multiplayer community
>Indie community
>the revival of space and horror games (Publishers straight out refused to make them until multi million kickstarter and Indie titles have proven people still buy them)
And worst of all: I jerk it about 7 times a day on average. Without internet porn I'd likely have killed myself of boredom. Your timeline sucks and you suck.

Do you think in the future there will be a new form of Luddite who refuses to use the internet? Those sound like cool people if you ask me.

Games have to work day one or they won't sell

>The complete Emulation community
>the sharing tips and hints community
>most of the multiplayer community
>Indie community
>the revival of space and horror games (Publishers straight out refused to make them until multi million kickstarter and Indie titles have proven people still buy them)
And nothing of value was lost.

I would kill all of it to go back to the "buy this disc own this game" days.

The 80s/early 90s was truly the best time.
>comfy video games
>comfy movies
>comfy tv shows
>Ronald Reagan
>no internet
>no smartphones
>Blockbuster
>drive-in movies theatres
Why did it all have to end?

people like you made me glad 9/11 happened

>nothing of value
>The complete Emulation community
Nigga, being able to play the oldies is a good thing. Also it's literally the only thing preserving this shit. Pretty much nobody kept archives of old architecture and games, so much of the retro shit would be lost to time, never to be played ever again.
>the sharing tips and hints community
Obviously gamefaqs are cancer, but the general people helping people is a good thing. "hey did you know you can find a rare candy if you press A at this tile?" Or even 4chins people going: "what's your favourite team?"
>most of the multiplayer community
Counter Strike would never exist anyway (because no modder) but it was a decent game, so was Tribes, Battlefield (the old ones), Left 4 Dead, [MMO of your choice], Diablo 2, Team Fortress 2 (pre hats)
>Indie community
FTL, Bastion, Super Meat Boy, Undertale, Binding of Isaac, Dwarf forts, Cave Story, Papers please, Stanley Parable, Hotline Miami, Gunpoint, Kerbal Space Program.
there's some good indie shit. Arguably even FEZ even if Phil is a massive cuntbag.
>space and horror
There are decent games there too I think, I dunno I only play Freelancer.

I don't know where you live, but back in the day when I bought a disc, it made you put in a 16 digit code. And even before that it made you jump trough hoops, pic related.
If anything, shit's gotten more convenient with steam.

>Also it's literally the only thing preserving this shit. Pretty much nobody kept archives of old architecture and games
Where do you think most ROMs came from? Piracy always predates emulation and dumping tools don't require an internet connection. Doom was also an indie game as were a lot of 90s games by today's standards and they were a hell of a lot better than indie games made post 2000.

BLOW IT ALL UP

Wrong. You'd just need to buy an emulator or buy a console with emulation implemented, or some games which come with older entries for free like DraculaXChronicles and SotN.

They dumped them, they are not preserving them. There is a difference. It's not like you can take the dumped ROM and just tell your computer "alright play this". For lots of consoles the emulation only roughly replicates the result, but it rarely reaches 100% accuracy. Google a bit on the topic of video game preservation and archivation. It's actually kind of a difficult thing, lots of games are already kind of in danger of dissapearing.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>They dumped them, they are not preserving them
Yes they are. That is exactly what the act is for without doing anything else after.

>nostalgia has blinded you to the multitude of low content retro games that had hard difficulty as the means of lengthier content
>local multiplayer is still big for anyone that isn't a Sup Forumsirgin outcast with no friends/I don't see how quarter suckers are any better than DLC
>let's just kill all the trees and burn all the oil
>small town echo chambers are way more powerful than internet ones
>social justice and Nazis existed before the internet
>*blackandwhitephotoofpeolpereaddingnewspaperontrain.jpg*
>humans have thrived because of the ability to transfer info. Without that option we are little more than animals.

>still have them
>still have them
>never existed
>lol Reagan
>good?
>good?
>hahaha oh wow
>still exist and have always been shit

>tfw Ted Kaczynski was right

>tfw internet timeline is worst timeline

Without digital distribution there would be no mount and blade, so no fug u

>>videogames are still self contained experiences with lots of content not contaminated by DLC and P2W practices
We still have this. Stop going for AAA and buy indie who are not greedy fucks

>local multiplayer and arcades are still thriving
went to the arcade with my gf 2 months ago

>>physical media like magazines, DVD and music CDs are still a huge and relevant industry
thank god this old tech shit is gone and we have better media now

>culture in general is less fractured with people not able to immerse themselves in any stupid internet echo chamber all the time
Stop caring so much about what other people think

>no widespread SJW or alt-right culture
Buy the non SJW games from indie developers. Again, stop sucking AAA dick

>people are forced to socialize normally in public since phones are of little use beyond talk and text
People socializing = doing drugs and partying, no thanks

>>the world moves at a slower pace since you are no longer bombarded with info as constantly
Learn how to be smart and keep up with it

Stop blaming all of your problems on technology

No nigga. Like I said, a dump just downloads the software stored on it, without all the shit around it, a dump is useless because you can not tell a computer "ok play this ROM".

If you dump a ROM, and then destroy all the consoles and copies of the game, what then? You won't be able to play, because you only have a small part of what is necessary for archivation.
It is not enough to just have the code, you need to know how the code was interpreted, what limitations and restrictions applied to get the exact result of the original game. On top of that we're rapidly moving away from the supported hardware and thus are in danger of losing some of this stuff to time alltogether.
Another great stopper is the documentation of the original hardware. This shit is usually "top secret" and if a company goes under or deletes it, this too can be completely lost. You would have a time were it would become impossible to accurately re-create certain consoles.
Dumping the rom is literally the smallest step in video game preservation and if you want to actually read up on the topic I can recommend this paper: ijdc.net/index.php/ijdc/article/view/147

Bootlegs and piracy have existed long before emulation. Raw game data being converted to be writable on flash memory based piracy tools still enables the preservation of video games without emulation, not that the internet is required for an emulator to be developed.

These two anons are on the money.

Trumps MAGA is glorfying the 80 and 90 and as someone who lived though them I can safely say they sucked for everyone but rich wallstreet moguls and they are not the time I want America to become again.

Bootlegs and piracy =/= Archivation nigga.
And no it doesn't. It. Fucking. Doesn't. the ability to rip/dump a ROM is ONE fucking step in preservation. Like I fucking said, If all you have is the dumped ROM, but you lack the original hardware, or knowledge of how exactly the original hardware works you are sitting on 2,5MB worth of junk.
Just go over to emugen on /vg/ and ask them why emulation isn't 100% accurate if they can just download the rom.
You are talking out of your ass, read the fucking paper I posted you, it describes exactly the fucking problems we face. you are being a double nigger right now.

Bootlegs and piracy are just as archival as emulation. All archival means is that the data itself is preserved for the future. Even without emulation (which would still exist without the internet) games could still be played forever with the original hardware via bootleg tools and pirated copies (and if all the systems failed you could rely on clones of that too).

I got along just fine sharing CDs full of ROMs and pirated PC games thank you very much.

>games could still be played forever with the original hardware
And therein lies the problem. Despite the "my NES still works" memes, this hardware will not last forever. You can't just clone hardware without the proper documentation. You can't just give a tech guy a Super Nintendo and say "make me another one" That's not how it works. read. the. fucking. paper.

Nigga I'm throwing actual research at you and you're going: "-hits blunt- dude... just like... download the game bruuuh, chill..."

>You can't just clone hardware without the proper documentation
They did just fine in the 80s and 90s. With tons of bootleg arcade boards that you can still find in the world to this very day, usually at a discounted price. Hell they even cloned consoles while they were still on the market in other countries.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dendy_(console)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Entertainment_System_hardware_clone

Nigga these are companies having their R&D team take that shit apart to recreate as close as they can. And even then: unless they publish the actual documentation it doesn't do shit for archivation. Now the wiki entry will say "the console was sadly lost to time, but had 3 clones back when it was relevant"
You know what else they had? Access to the same hardware of the time. Lots of that shit already doesn't exist any more.

Its is not.

Internet is a great thing, that is greatly misused and abused.

>most of Sup Forums would be "couch potatoes" watching tv reruns all night long and sleeping all day

>a return to a time where looking at the game box pretty much told you if you would like the game or not
Sign me the fuck up, I found alot of my favorite vidya that way

>unless they publish the actual documentation it doesn't do shit for archivation
You do realize most of the information on NES hardware was archived by fans with no documentation right?

>>people are forced to socialize
We all hate normies but there's a reason it's good for you to have to interact with them, and if you don't understand why you're a dumb nigger that needs to be mandated by law or nature to make you do it so you won't be a blight on others.

the retarded shit I get to read here is unreal
you have to be brain damaged to pull off this line of thought

You should know that arcade bullshit and DLC/P2W bullshit is the exact same bullshit but different flavors. Arcade games had mechanics like timers or lives in order to suck more quarters from your pocket.

>germanfag
>literally used to be TV addicted
>didn't know though
>did barely watch during the day (was running on the side while doing PC stuff)
>always watching till I fell asleep though
>fucking thing broke one day
>literally panic mode "OMG where do I get a new TV? I need a new TV fucking NOW!"
>no money, suffer like fuck the next days without TV, literally withdrawal symptoms
>slowly realize I was complaining about the program most of the time anyway
>slowly turns out OK
was about 10 years ago. not looking bad a bit.

Where do you live?

Yeah arcades always sucked but losing expansion packs in favor of DLC was legitimately a huge downgrade.

>no lewds available on the internet
>western porn industry thrives as customers actually have to go out to american porno trade shows like japan's comiket and spend money
>porn artists can actually make a living now since there's no piracy, leading to more and better artists drawing porn

Again, Internet timeline is worst timeline.

>most of the information on NES hardware was archived by fans with no documentation right?
And that is the step towards real archivation.
The problem is: you need to do this shit with every old console and with a bunch of them the interest just isn't high enough. The chances of Nintendo stuff to survive is pretty damn high, but a lot of the fringe consoles are more or less fucked.

there was a snes floppy disk drive for playing "dumped" games in the 90s. youre the nigger who doesnt get it.

>people are forced to socialize

No they aren't. If someone pulls out their phone at the dinner table, they're probably not that interested in you in the first place.

READ. THE FUCKING. PAPER.

DUMPING GAMES IS LIKE 20% OF VIDEO GAME ARCHIVATION. BEING ABLE TO PLAY THEM DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE SAVED FOR HISTORY.

this. hell people were still alive before smartphones.

>A lot of shady practices would remain unnoticed
>People will not have as much general knowledge from sites like Wikipedia and the like
>Videogames would still be riddled with DRM, albeit non-invasive
>Online updates cannot be done
>Stock market cannot be predicted except by extreme observation of news around the world
>Computers would barely have any priority in being developed, modern-day computers would instead be late 90s computers

Global culture would actually still be very fucking fragmented, even more than nowadays because most people wouldn't even be aware that there are cultures other than theirs

>>Videogames would still be riddled with DRM, albeit non-invasive
So CD keys? Good
>>Stock market cannot be predicted except by extreme observation of news around the world
That's a good thing, less "making money with money and nothing else" and more industry and actual work

wholly untrue. people don't sit on their phones because they are bored, they do it because they are addicted.

>fragmented
fragmented is good. we can trade, travel, and cooperate without full forced integration

>lelel comfy comfy comfy
shut the fuck up

All of those sound awful OP.

...Actually no SJW and Sup Forumsshit would be nice.

>Ronald Reagan

You're halfway to the truth. Now picture what would happen if industrial society had never existed

>Human beings would have the opportunity to go through the power process and lead fulfilling lives
>We would finally be free of surrogate activities (video games, anime)
>We would not have to suffer under technological slavery
>We would truly be free in that we would have complete control over every aspect of our lives

>You rented films from blockbuster.
I had this whole crazy setup to copy movies when I was 13, shit was wild.