This is Nintendo's Lightning and she won't be in Super Mario Odyssey

This is Nintendo's Lightning and she won't be in Super Mario Odyssey.

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If she was Nintendo's Lightning, she WOULD be in Odyssey

you literally dont know that
theres an unannounced moon kingdom we havent seen yet. she could easily be the pauline of that.

If she was Nintendo's Lightning, she would be in Mario + Rabbids

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just like how Lightning is in FFXV!

I want to make babies with Rosalina while holding hands

>nintendo's lightning
>has an ass

Rosalina has no ass.

Thank god for Pauline

Thank God indeed.

Dont lewd Luigi's time travelling daughter!

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>implying there won't be a Moon Kingdom

Thank god, I was tired of seeing her face plastered literally fucking everywhere.

She'll be in the Moon levels, won't she?

Would be nice if we found a single mansion filled with Boo's in the dark side of the moon.

>had a semi-major role in only one game
>everything else is spinoffs

Why do people act like this is the exact same thing as being the central character of a trilogy where she becomes Jesus taking her friends' souls to heaven?

>In the dark side of the moon

Still doesn't mean she will turn up.

It is 100% because she got into Smash Bros, and "roster fags" absolutely flipped their shit. Smash Bros fags on Sup Forums are painfully braindead and most issues with perception of Nintendo characters comes exclusively from them.

>he doesn't know

dude, that ass is perfect

How do we know she's not in? It could be like Galaxy 2 and 3D World where she's nowhere to be found until the main scenario is beaten.

She's thicc in comparison.
Lightning literally has no ass.

she stood alongside the SMB2 cast as a playable character in 3D world. thats major

there's literally nothing wrong with mai waifu

It's almost like this is a bad edit and you can easily tell it's fake.

She didn't "stand alongside them", she was an optional secret character. It's still a far cry from having her own trilogy of mainline games.

>get option to play as Luigi after beating it as Mario
>in Luigi mode Bowser is trying to marry Rosalina instead

That's no moon.

Her sister's cuter.

Nice

every single level was playable with her oncd unlocked and when it comes to 100% completion she has the same significance as mario. don't say dumb shit about her being limited to side games if you can't accept being told you are wrong.

>a secret unlockable in the first secret world after you beat the game

Oh wow, so major.

>optional secret character
>just don't progress further than world 7 and don't try for 100% completion, then she becomes irrelevant.


stop

>after stopping the bowser wedding, mario and peach have a real wedding
>luigi and rosalina do too in newgame+

you dont decide where the end point of the game is.

but her sister is degenerate

It's not exactly the same. But it's similar enough. In one game, Rosalina got more backstory than any Mario character over the course of 20. Her design is clearly based off of Peach's. And she's the personal waifu of the writer of the game.

Now, I love Koizumi, because he gave us Majora's Mask. But they made it clear in Iwata's Ask, that Rosalina was wholly is creation. Written in private, and then only later shown to the rest of the team. Even Miyamoto was confused as to why Rosalina was in the game, when Peach was already there, but he allowed it anyway.

But think about what that sounds like. The creator's waifu, of a character who resembles a previous character, and gets cosmos spanning backstory. That's Lightning. Nomura's waifu, resembling Cloud, with a huge marysue backstory.

And then Rosalina goes from what you call a semi-major role, into playable in Mario 3D World, and then playable in Smash Bros. Which is supposed to be the All star/legacy roster. It's completely undeserved adulation.

A "Lightning", is in a sense another word for a "Poochie". If you get that simpson's reference.

I'm not even big on Lightning but I disagree, if only because Serah pretty much has the same figure as Lightning but is a generic moeblob instead of whatever Lightning is.

I would shoot cummies if this happened

As much as I hate daisy I can't see this happening

Rosalina>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daisy

At least Rosalina isn't a shitty recolor who's only purpose is to fill up spaces in the spin-off games.

A small piece of the 100% completion puzzle is not anywhere close to being front-and-center at all times. That's like saying the entire premise of Mario Sunshine is collecting blue coins, as if the Shine Sprites aren't the major focus.

>Luigi is autistic
>Rosalina is autistic

Perfect couple.

Rosalina is the savant kind of autist, who is highly efficient.
Luigi is the spazzy autist, who is just makes everyone awkward by his presence.

There's just one problem. Rosalina started to be included in other things because they wanted another popular female character, and there were really only two choices: a character created way back in the early 90s, or a character from a more recent game.

Also the reason Miyamoto was confused was because Peach was his own waifu.

>and then playable in Smash Bros
So basically

If this drawing is supposed to be her taking a picture of herself through a mirror, because I don't see any other reason for her phone to be present, then it's doing a shitty job. The phone should be horizontal.

What makes them autistic?

Luigi is for Daisy only.

I said they are therefore they are, how dare you question my use of Sup Forums's favorite descibe-all catch word.

>Rosalina started to be included in other things because they wanted another popular female character
Says who?
>And there were really only two choices: a character created way back in the early 90s, or a character from a more recent game.
Why does the date of creation matter? Do you know how much those side games sell? Nintendo publishes their numbers on their website. Actually, I'm not sure if they're still up, because it's been a while since I checked. But the side games actually sell more than the mainline games. Crazy, I know. But if you feel like verifying/disproving the claim, just check Nintendo's site for yourself. Chances are: More people played a game with Daisy on the roster, than Rosalina.

And I hate this line of thinking, because it puts us in the stupid Rosalina vs Daisy bullshit. Which it's really not about. It's just so happens that if you claim they wanted another female character, then Daisy's lacking appearances is what proves that notion wrong. I mean, for years beforehand, they settled with using Toads as a 4th or 3rd character. Hell, why didn't they put Toadette in the game?

Is that hat implying that's mario controlling her?

Didn't the Mario 3D World directer want Rosalina in and the asked permission from Koizumi?

>This is Nintendo's Lightning

No, it wasn't
This was just a hot take from jilted Daisyfags for Smash or Wah-fags for 3D World because they couldn't comprehend the idea anything that wasn't in their childhood gaining recognition.

Koizumi is also the Mario series main producer. Think about it like this: The man who is essentially your superior created Rosalina. Do you A, grab Daisy as a playable character. Or B, ask permission from your boss to include his waifu? Answer carefully, as your future with the company depends on this.

YOU CAN UNLOCK ROSALINDA IN 3D WORLD???

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>I was thinking about what would be pleasing after the ending and wanted to bring in another female character in addition to Princess Peach. Rosalina has a following among the Super Mario Galaxy fanbase, and she's appeared in Mario Kart recently, so I think she's well known.

There it is. As for the rest, because more recent = more fresh on people's memories. Even IF SML sold more than SMG, that isn't taking into account how much longer SML had been around either.

And let's be honest. You're the one who wants to bring in the Rosalina vs. Daisy bullshit. That is the origin of this whole "Nintendo's Lightning" argument. Otherwise we'd have to admit that Yoshi and Wario retroactively fit that WAY better. As for Toadette, who the fuck knows about Toadette?

>Do you
>A, grab Daisy as a playable character.
>Or B, ask permission from your boss to include his waifu?

Wish there was a C. option.

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Ah, I remember that quote now. To that I say this >There it is. As for the rest, because more recent = more fresh on people's memories. Even IF SML
Stop right there. For 1, old characters have gotten into Smash before. Ice Climbers being the prime example. 2, I wasn't talking about Super Mario Land. I was talking about Mario Party, Mario Kart, Mario&Sonic, Mario Tennis. All with new entries featuring Daisy. So she is relevant today and in everyone's mind.

>You're the one who wants to bring in the Rosalina vs. Daisy bullshit.
No I don't. Daisy is merely an example I'm forced to use to disprove certain points. But I can name a dozen other characters more suites for Smash Bros before either Daisy or Rosalina.

>Otherwise we'd have to admit that Yoshi and Wario retroactively fit that WAY better.
Yoshi and Wario were created in the development stages of the franchise, so they get a pass. The franchise was still world building. Like I said, a lightning is like a poochie. It's a character that is inserted, and assumed to be a beloved character, AFTER the franchise is already established.

>As for Toadette, who the fuck knows about Toadette?
Everyone who plays Mario Kart? So millions.

Waifufags need to be gassed. Who fucking cares what you think about Rosalina? She is far from Nintendo's "Lightning", but waifufags and smashfags have the biggest hateboner for her. I don't understand why.

>Nintendo's Lightning
Still forcing this meme?

Because Nintendo forced her on us and gave her backstory and keep putting her in everything for no reason.

Except if you read that quote again, the interview is with Motokura, not Koizumi. Motokura says "I was thinking about" and "I think she's well known."

Otherwise, you can't bring up Daisy as relevant in the same manner. By your logic, fucking Petey Pirahna should have gotten in over Rosalina. Meanwhile Rosalina was a well-liked character from a recent major mainline Mario title. And no, Toadette is not really all that well-known or popular. Being a throw-in character in sports titles doesn't mean much by itself. Or are you gonna tell me that Baby Luigi is well-known and loved.

And no, Wario and Yoshi do not get a pass except that you need a convenient reason to give them one. There were already three Mario games prior to World. Also you say a Lightning is a poochie, but again, Rosalina was not disliked by the majority. A poochie is.

You can make all the excuses you want, but your whole argument can be torn apart by the interview and Rosalina not being the hated character you seem believe her to have always been.

I'm still not even sure what its supposed to imply.

>heavy character in Mario Kart

>This is Nintendo's Lightning
No? She barely even got into spin-offs until she turned out to be unexpectedly popular due to being a Mario character that was actually attractive with a backstory (that they proceeded to ignore). This is Nintendo's real Lightning.
>given a huge marketing push before the game released
>explicitly a gender flip of a previous protagonist, i.e. Marth
>got into fucking smash almost immediately after her debut, while rosalina struggled to get into mario tennis
>has appeared in at least some form in every fire emblem game since her creation, including one set in another universe and another that was a remake of a 1992 game (through amiibo)
>when fe warriors decided not to include the second generation, nintendo and intelligent systems took them into a dark room and had a "talk" with them until she was included after all
>when she lost the popularity poll to lyn, they suddenly decided to give the top four winners special costumes instead of just the top two as originally announced
>in heroes proper, she has four variants, more than any other character; she is also generally the best user of falchion (i.e. her, chrom, marth, and alm) and every user has access to at least one version of her for free
Rosalina isn't even the closest thing Mario has to a Lightning, Yoshi is, but nobody bitches about him either because he's not a girl or this board is too underage to remember how hard he was pushed.

I THINK they're trying to imply that Rosalina is the same as Lightning, which is hilarious. Koizumi never went on stage and said "IMAGINE A ROSE" to compare to his fucking waifu to announce another game centered around her.

That remains the greatest presentation of all time. The sheer shock and disgusted silence in the audience is magical.

Peach has the best ass

>Rosalina
>attractive

>when she lost the popularity poll to lyn, they suddenly decided to give the top four winners special costumes instead of just the top two as originally announced

this makes me laugh every time. I suppose it makes sense since FE Heroes banners usually don't just have two characters, but still

She also got the best thong

She's more attractive than Daisy and Peach, making her second to Pauline.

She looked better in the past

Peach is the best, you just have a shit taste
If Rosalina weren't in Mario Kart Wii, she would be forgotten.

DEEPEST

It's people like you who keep pushing this Lightning shit because you're angry people like a female Mario chracter other than/along with Peach. Stop being such fucking whiny children.

All poochie-esque characters aren't hated. The idea is that a poochie is given preferential treatment by it's creator, or creators. The reception to the character doesn't change the definition. Sometimes a poochie works, sometimes it doesn't.

>the interview is with Motokura, not Koizumi
Yes, I know. But do you know who produced Mario 3D world? Koizumi. Motokura was the director. Being a producer means you're in charge of the workflow of the project, and ultimately have sway over the jobs of everyone on the team. Koizumi is Motokura's boss. So when motokura is "thinking" about who to include in the game, wouldn't you think it's advantageous of him to use Koizumi's character? It would satisfy his boss, and it would be easy to get permission.

>By your logic, fucking Petey Pirahna should have gotten in over Rosalina
Don't be silly. Clearly there is a hierarchy to characters, and Petey is just a B level villain in the universe. You can't compare him to a prominent character like Rosalina. Daisy and Rosalina are equal in that respect. Both prominent characters. I know Toadette doesn't quite compare to them, but like I said: They've been suing toads as 3rd and 4th characters for years, so why not Toadette. Sure, she's kind of a tertiary character, but anyone who has played Mario Kart will at least go "oh yea, it's that toad girl from Mario Kart".

But Daisy pretty much cancels out Rosalina. Because when you think of mario characters, you think of Daisy. Mario, Luigi, Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Wario, then Daisy.

>There were already three Mario games prior to World.
In the span of 6 years. And Yoshi was planned to be in the game since Super Mario Bros 1. it just took them a while to implement him.

Nice try. But your arguments are more tiresome than they are effective.

>IMAGINE A ROSE

I was generally out of the loop in regards to SE stuff during the 13 trilogy. Which game was that used to announced?

No, I like Peach and Rosalina the most

We need Space Kingdom now!

>yfw Rosalina gets in Odyssey before Daisy
Didn't it take her seven years to even star in spinoff games?
I swear it's one faggot tryiing to meme Rosalina as Lightning

You don't even know where Poochie came from do you? You just saw it used here and started parroting it without even taking the time to google it huh? My god.

And now you're claiming that Motokura only included Rosalina because he wanted to impress his boss? Yes, he was totally lying in that interview. Koizumi clearly had him dragged off to a dark room to 'convince' him to put Rosalina in. We have all the evidence we need that such a thing happened.

t. buttblasted daisy fag

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>actually kinda like Rosalina's design including the bang over the eye
>could only actually care about her if she had a dick that was sized accordingly to her body

I'll never understand your kind and your obsession with sticking giant penises onto women in order to make them "attractive" or "acceptable". If you're that needy for cocks just fuck men.

>everything
It was like 2 Galaxy games and 3 spin offs. That's not everything you fucking retard. Besides no one is FORCING you to play as the characters you don't like.

do you even read what you're replying too?

I appreciate the female form far more than the male form. Far too elegant and shapely to pass up. Why not have the best of both worlds?

>Daisy
>prominent

r u a real life retard?

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Not to mention that she appears in literally every single Fire Emblem Heroes event, despite having no relationship to any of the characters

lol

Rosalina is for ______

>They added Zelda twice

Nintendo's Lightning is Toon Link
Prove me wrong
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