When did you realise Cloud is one of the most shittily written characters in vidya?

>walks into his moms house during flashback "yeah this is my mom she died a few days later"
>literally never even mentions or remembers his own mother again in the game

Lots of other examples of how the character and story in particular is shit rushed writing but this one stands out

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Why would he mention her again?
Do people with parents who have passed away constantly bring it up?
Cloud was all about that stoicism, he's not going to cry about his mother passing away years later.

All Jrpg's have shit writing.

He bitches about aeris death constantly even though ne knew her for a few months at most

Final Fantasy 7 is just an atrociously written (and translated) game.
The story is literally indecipherable the first playthrough.

People just seem to forget that the only reason people understand the story of 7 is the 20 years of cultural osmosis where every aspect of 7 has been discussed to death, parodied, retold and dissected point by point.

>Doesn't care about his soon to be dead mother
>People are still shocked he became a mercenary 20 years later

This isn't just FF7, that's a JRPG trope in general

No he doesn't. He does cry about not being able to bang tifa though

I think he and the party go over it hard like once and that's it really. The fuck are you even on about?

I want you to have sex with my wife

ok

>"Yeah so while I was visiting my home town, I visited my mother"
>"It's not really important to the story and she, you know, burned to death a short while later because the insane superhuman we're tracking felt like killing a bunch of innocent people for no good reason"
>god, why doesn't he talk about his mother more? so unrealistic!

Congratulations on revealing that you aren't old and/or emotionally mature enough to realize that grieving is not permanent and people that you care about who have died aren't constantly on your mind/haunting you.

Life is not an anime trope.

He comments on it ONCE and in the same conversation he says there are more important things to worry about.

Also he just watched a close companion of several months get murdered right in front of him, held her corpse, and watched it float away into nothingness. Of course that causes a stronger reaction than your mother passing away while you were far from home doing military service years in the past.

He had a flashback of her telling him to fuck Aerith beforehand. In the Kalm flashback he checks her burning house and walks out devastated and then accuses Sephiroth of her death when he confronts him at the reactor.

He also tells Barret that he doesn't want to talk about her, although you can (and will) then choose to do so, indicating that it's painful subject for him.

All of it establishes Cloud as an orphan, who loved his dead mother. There's not much for this usual backstory, but it's still some time spent on the elaboration.

I really liked 'Cloud's Mam' by the way. They didn't represent her as a vibrant woman in Crisis Core, just like they got most characterizations wrong. Unfortunate.

Not in VII really. Just after it happens. Later he's the one, who says they should let her go, so she won't be stuck because of them. And at the very end thinking he'll meet her in the Promised Land.

Can someone remind me why no one remembered Cloud in his home town?
Was it something about Shinra covering up everything sephiroth did and moving new people in town?

>town burns down with everyone in it
>why does no one remember him

C'mon user, you can do it

She was a core part of what was going on in the first game and they never even mention her by name in AC

Everyone in present Nibelheim was an actor and you're a terrible person for suggesting there was a fire. Every original survivor got injected with Jenova and were made into clones to test Hojo's Reunion theory.

But then Tifa is remembered.

Cloud was a nobody loser who no one wanted to hang out with. Plus the whole everyone dying thing.

>they never even mention her by name in AC
they don't know if it's Aeris or Aerith

No, she's not. Only Zangan hid letters in her room. The rest don't acknowledge her in town.

I always thought living in Costa del Sol would have been so fucking nice, made me wish they did something with the Villa if you ponied up 300k gil for it

Cloud never had a mother

That was Jenova using her cells to fuck with him

Notice her name never appears in the text when she speaks

Biggest waste of 300k ever. Cloud ends up living in Midgar anyway after VII.

Guess Yuffie uses it for her sex parties after 7

Y-yuffie is pure.

yeah, pure slut

I saved that scene just to fap to.

Pure slut

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Please stop lewding the Yuffie.

I like Cisseni she's cute but professional

Shut the fuck up OP, we have more important matters to discuss.

Is Nanaki a lion or a wolf?

He is completely cat like in appearance, but cats don't howl. What the fuck Nomura.

IT'S NOT A LION! IT'S A WOLF!

He's clearly a coyote or some cousin of it.

But Red canonically bred with Tifa

>it's a "people confuse the shitty FF7 extended universe Cloud for original FF7 Cloud" episode

Yuffie lewded herself

I can't fucking stand the FF7 Compilation.

Why didn't they do this shit to FFVIII? Why my favorite game?

I believe you mean Vaan.

She wanted Cloud's D.

>When did you realise Cloud is one of the most shittily written characters in vidya?

Even if Cloud was written badly, which he isn't there would be no way that he is one of the worst. There are literally thousands of games where you play a Guy Mcdude who is just a walking trope.

You know that slut would bang the dirtiest hobo for some low level materia.

This.
and this.
Anybody who claims to have gotten the
>Deep intricacies
of the plot at the time is full of shit. It's more like faggy fanboys over-analyzing it's shitty spaghetti-plot and despite being a bunch of losers who will never amount to anything coming up with something better than the turd Square extruded out.

Which girl didn't?

Also the characters all looked like crap. Fan art is what elevated them beyond what they were. The character designs were a lazy appeal to the rise of weeabooism at the time.

Elena. She wanted Tseng.

But Tseng likes that Ancient.

Scarlet just wanted to slap Tifa

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FFVII in general is a mediocre game. It really drops off in the quality department after you leave Midgard

>[try-hard overworld theme intensifies]

>Going to pick up item W to break the game
>Surprise optional Turks on the way back

Oh fuck

Cissnei, she didn't even want the original SOLDIER.

I think by "cloud bitches about it" you mean the fanbase

Elaborate, please. I mean, what should the overworld theme be then, if not a compact version of the game's story?

Some places where pretty comfy Costa del sol and Icicle Inn

you do know could fucked tifa after aeris died right? just forget advent children if that's what you're remembering

She's a boring virgin. She doesn't count.

This thread belongs to Shinra now.
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Whatever happened to her? And all the other Turks we never see?

You can steal some good shit from them, so it's all cool.

Daily reminder that if you hate cloud you are transphobic

The Turks now claim ownership of this thread.
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Cross dressing cloud was my favorite part of the game
He made such a good girl
I wanna fuck his tight ass hole and have him leak buckets worth of cum out of his sissy dick

That's fucking gay bro.

There shouldn't be an over world. It should be like FFX and later.

I just ignore anything outside of the original game and Crisis Core, because the other medias don't bring anything even remotely good to the story.

No
If I cum on his ass and not in it it's fine

She is a virgin but not boring

Before Crisis answers that. She and the other Turks go into hiding from Shinra and live among the civilian population all around the world.

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That ugly face

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Still gay bro. Don't be gay.

Oh, I see. Glad that Cissnei made it out okay. She was alright on CC.

Nah bro, it's fine as long as he says no homo.

Where's the negro?

Why?

This and its so unfortunate. They do, on occasion, have very excellent direction

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Omg because it's boring lol

Fag.

She was okay. Actually she was better in CC than BC, because there she's just a girl raised within the company, while the others had actual personalities unlike her. Amidst the girls I preferred Shotgun, Martial Arts (Female) and Gun to her (not Knife though) and consider it Tabata's shit taste striking yet again for choosing her to bring back, because she's the one with the least character among all the Turk members.

Rude's the third one from the left in the upper row holding Reno back. Not my fault Square-Enix changed him in everything post-VII.

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>Square-Enix changed him in everything post-VII
???

I always thought he was black in VII, but he's paler in the Compilation, a bit Hispanic even, I find. In Before Crisis he's straight up white.

He's always been tan in everything except Before Crisis, which I didn't even know they fucked that up until just now since it never released outside of Japan. He was fine in AC and CC.

But why?

>He was fine in AC and CC.

I was just hoping he would've been darker, but I accepted it eventually. I merely had something else in my mind's eye before they released. He still looks nice at the end of the day. I wasn't disputing that. Or the tan in them for that matter.

It is considered bad form to introduce something into the story, if it will not impact events to come.

>Cloud has a mother
>she died a horrible death at the hands of a man he revered
>he doesn't want to talk about it but it's clearly part of why he's so messed up in the early game
Seems fine to me

Before Crisis story spoilers beware.

The Turks get into an ever escalating conflict with the company and become basically fugitives as the game continues. The Turks are only reinstated when seemingly everyone (especially the previous leadership), excluding Tseng, Reno and Rude are killed/assassinated while on a mission. They're no longer seen as a threat and the trio have shown loyalty. Truthfully the rest are in hiding, so the three remaining Turks and themselves can be safe, officially dead, but still in contact with Tseng if a need were to arise to gather. But mostly they just live their own lives in peace with false identities keeping their heads low.

The story grinding the Turks down in-between Shinra and Avalanche forces in a desperate situation is actually quite exciting.

Ah. Sounds neat. Was Rufus supposed to reinstate them in his company by the time of AC then? I imagine he could have used people like them rebuilding it.

he remake better let you keep the dress for the whole game at least.

I hate that Reno and Rude were made straight up comic relief in everything in the shitty compilation. In VII they're cool professionals. I love that near the end you can decide not to fight them and they're like "Fuck it, company's fucked."

>Shinra freely massacres Corel.
>Feels the need to try and cover up Nibelheim burning down.

>I'm new to JRPGs
Hahah!

There's a difference between a supposed insurrection and your greatest hero going insane and torching a village for no reason