B-but remakes are all garbage

B-but remakes are all garbage
b-but it's better the way I remember in my childhood

The top looks better for me, and I never even played SotC.

there are elements in the top pic that are more visually appealing

>all the best remakes are near 1:1 recreations of the original game but with better graphics and minor gameplay tweaks and additions
>REmake, Serious Sam, Crash Bandicoot

>for some reason this isn't good enough for Final Fantasy VII and we have to get a shit knock-off that spits in the eye of the original game

Why live bros?

XD

it doesn't have to spit in the eye of the original game. it could be better. it's only pessimism that makes you cling to the original

>he won't like to play FF VII with more dynamic combat instead of the same old turn-based shit
Contrarian redditor detected

I hate remakes shaders. It looks like literally people who dont understand Ueda’s atmosphere

like what

Original
>secret castle off in the horizon
>have to stand on a specific location
>tiny 8x8 pixel of a castle
>actually fucking mysterious, why was it put there, limitations of the era meant that couldn't have been a mistake, its vaguely familiar
>it might be the ico castle, it might not
>holy shit this game is fucking with me
>social forums and a fledgling internet only spread rumors and guesses

Now
>fuck it the castle is right there
>lmao memes
>XD WE'RE SO DEEP GUYS
>we could have coded in three fucking castles, its actually up for consideration to be DLC

I dislike the change in lighting, but otherwise, the remake is better.

colours are better.
fuck you.

I can't speak for everyone but Materia is one of the reasons I love the original game so much.

You can't do Materia in an action-based game. See Crisis Core.

>Contrarian redditor
>set foot in any VIIR thread on Sup Forums and 90% of posters have written it off since it's not turn-based
>contrarian

This game did not need a remaster for the third console generation in a row. It did not.

>atmosphere
>ambient vibe
>artistic vision
buzzwords

N Sane Trilogy is not even remotely a 1:1 recreation, they fucked up the physics bad.

>buzzwords
a buzzword

>colours

Top one is true kino art and aesthetic. It's dreamy, it's ethereal, it's special and it's authentic.
Bottom is lol look HDR sky lolzzz and brown colorz

That's not true the second best remake of all time behind REmake is La-mulana and that was a completely different game from the original

Also some of the most mediocre remakes are what you described like majoras mask 3d

which is which?

That texture filtering is embarrassingly bad, but other than that it looks great.

foliage on the bridge appears more lush
generally more light
desert has more defnition
lighting on the structure in the distance is more intriguing
bridge doesn't taper off into nothing

Top is a unique aesthetic
Bottom is derivative of modern vidya

i really don't fucking understand what you are saying. can you explain?

>Top one is true kino art and aesthetic. It's dreamy, it's ethereal, it's special and it's authentic.

very Lovecraftian

>You can't do Materia in an action-based game. See Crisis Core.

that's a single example

and i enjoyed that game anyhow

>taper off into nothing

but it doesn't.

Top is better. What's your point?

The remake is completely missing the sun-bleached sky and landscape which created such a harsh, desolate atmosphere in the original. Instead they've gone for a more generic, realistic look which is way more subdued and uninteresting

also why is the temple now a silhouette? anyone who thinks these details aren't important doesn't know shit about fuck

>ugly as fuck is unique aesthetic

Every ps2 game looks like that

>turn-based shit
no user, YOU are the redditor

are you high

...

O hai mark

Funny that the USA is less white than any european country

I literally played sotc for the first time 2 months ago and thought it was one of the most beautiful games ive ever played.

Maybe its because i prefer unique and creative art direction over bland and derivative.

>2017
>consoles still can't into proper texture filtering

It's always good to see a OP being destroyed like you.

not an argument

Top image is better, the light outlines the horizon, there is meaningful contrast between the sky and ground. Light on the path at the bottom doesn't even make sense, it has no source.

>N Sane Trilogy is not even remotely a 1:1 recreation

It is 99% a 1:1 recreation. Some physics and artstyle changes do not negate this.

>Top

Stresses the fuck out of the PS2, is actually impressive for that reason

>Bottom

Barely does anything to the PS4 because trying to use the power to the fullest extent would mean framerare drops and you know 10fps is unnacceptable because of modern gaymers xdddd

Bottom is actually made for casuals

there's no sight of the castle in either of those pics dude, the view-able castle is off to the right of wander's view in these screenshots

I understand what they were trying to do here - get rid of the value clipping in the sky. Unfortunately, they took a high key image into medium range, and in the process they completely killed both the mood and the composition. What a shame.

I don't have a problem with the bottom remake look. With that having been said, I played through Shadow of the Colossus already and they'll have to do much more than a facelift makeover to entice to buy the same game yet again.

Bloom and blurry isn't a unique nor creative art direction

>paid shill mad that Sup Forumsirgins understand atmosphere and color theory better than Bluepoint.

Stay mad faggot.

WHAT HAPPENED TO DEMETRIOUS JOHNSON?

>reaching this level of contrarian stupidity

Okay now correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Shadow of the Colossus already get a HD remake

All of these faggots on the thread

>'' do not touch the original please ''

...

>color theory

Wow a new meaningless word like comfy or atmosphere

>atmosphere

CUT COLOSSI OR BUST

It got a remastered port to the PS3 in HD.

OP's pic shows a brand new version made from the ground up.

There's a difference between HD edition and remake.

It just seems like the most pointless remake to make. Why skip Ico, why not just put both games on PSN? There's a dedicated space for slightly enhanced PS2 ports.

why is the bridge evenly illuminated while everything else has heavy fog on it?

would look a lot better if the bridge faded out as well. the reason it was so bright in the original was because the sky was really bright.

top seems to have a stronger cohesion in art direction.

git gud

just don't touch the original for the worse. it's p simple

Probably because these people don't understand that shadow of the colossus is not a typical video game you can simply upscale and redraw. It's a work or art by the hands of masters. It was meticulously crafted and every detail had its share of importance.
In that image, the lightning, the shadows, the exposure etc. completely butchers the original idea behind. (Dreamy landscapes, feeling of isolation, ethereal...)

Ueda is someone that is known to use burn, overexpose etc. especially white and grey tones in all his games. Well, these guys must've felt that was a mistake or something that needed to be cleared... Absolutely preposterous.

This
Who cares about a fucking texture pack, give us the cut ones

Bottom has more detailed graphics but they have different aesthetics with the different lighting and colors, a lot of people feel that the old aesthetic fit the game's world more.

Shadow of the Colossus is an incredibly visually distinct and memorable game despite it's outdated graphics, remake looks more generic with it's more typical lighting and all that brown.

The original had a sense of mystery and scale that's lost with the aesthetic changes.

This is where they fucked up. They had the chance to make this really special. Now I jave mo reason to play this.

Aesthetically speaking, the top image conjures a heightened sense of displacement in ones being, the vanishing point melding with the undefined definitions of the haze elicits feelings of sadness and melancholy. The jagged edges around everything promote a quiet sinister feeling that gives the player an skewed sensation and the overall bluriness is obviously intentionally designed to elicit unease

the bottom is just modern trash

Oh is this a straight up remake

Is there going to be any new content?

i wonder if this'll restore some of the cut areas

Can’t wait to play this on switch

I'm glad they're making the effort of producing at least one version of this game that runs decently, if you think a different color pallette breaks immersion wait until you get pop ins every second in the ps3 version
Maybe when the ps5 is out we'll even have a version of the last guardian that doesen't run like garbage and allows you to turn off the constant gay tutorials

If they actually gave us those I'd buy in a heartbeat

>Is there going to be any new content?

Top looks like they just put a overlay filter on it.

Top "looks nice" on its own and out of context.
Bottom suits the atmosphere and theme more though

>What? They changed the color pallette? Absolute garbage
>What? They didn't change the game? Absolute garbage
so do you want it to be the same as the original or not

Seems pointless. Bottom doesn't even look noteworthy by modern standards. The original game at a steady framerate is all I need.

the bottom one looks like a dark souls 3 screenshot

If you haven't figured it out yet, some people will never be happy no matter what. Good old Sup Forums.

>Stresses the fuck out of the PS2, is actually impressive for that reason
>t. never actually played it on PS2
Ah yes, playing at less than 15 FPS was so impressive and inspiring

The animations in the remake are fucking bad.

Same as the original with updated resolutions and poly counts.

I actually do really dislike how the sky is casting light in the remake screen.
I'm still going to greatly enjoy the game. SotC is a game that deserves a remake.

what could be a better tribute to the original than the fact that fans want to inspect every frame of the remake for consistency

we want it to match or exceed the original in terms of atmosphere and visual beauty

So they traded the bloom for a brown filter, how is either one good?

it ran fine.

It most certainly did not

Yeah that's just nitpicking honestly

it's one fucking screenshot, seriously

>buying this remaster and not waiting for the one of PS5
PS5 will have the best line up

Ok then why are fans also bitching about the fact that the gameplay will stay the same?
People in here seem to think that cut content is cut for no reason other than spite, they sound like the type of people who watch 8 hours fancuts of movies because they need to include everything
The game is perfectly fine with 16 colossi

it ran at a slower framerate, like a movie, since it's supposed to be a cinematic experience.

ah yes, can't wait to play uncharted 5 and bloodborne 2, and the remake of up your arsenal.

>REmake is a near 1:1 recreation

No it isn't it's vastly different, Remakes that are 1:1 are fucking pointless, unless the art should be refreshed, like Wonderboy 3. Sotc still looks fine to this day.

The remake will be as good as XV

This is probably one of the dumbest remakes ever. It's basically just the HD remaster but with prettier graphics. It isn't going to add anything. I've played this game already on a PS3, there's no need to buy it again.

what can we do other than nitpick before the game comes out

if the game comes out and it feels the same, no harm no foul

i don't agree with a no buy declaration over the cut content stuff, but i can see why people want it. is there anything wrong with wanting it?

There is no fucking way you can say that and actually believe it
I played it not even 3 days ago and it baffles me that Sony thought the product was in a shippable state. It's very nearly unplayable, even against Valus my FPS was dipping near 15 (estimating since this was on a physical PS2).
If you think that's acceptable you're a dumb retard.

The PS3 release was great, in any case.

>Remakes that are 1:1 are fucking pointless

>they're wasting time retexturing stuff instead of making new content
yawn

Really? Link to latest video?

You seem to forget the part where I said unless the art should be refreshed

Being on the fucking gameboy is a good reason to refresh it