WHOM DID THIS?

WHOM DID THIS?

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>Join the resistance
>Denuvo

So then it won't have denuvo because otherwise that doesn't make much sense

>Sega paying the Denuvo company more money after that last game got cracked in a week
Are they stupid?
Don't bother answering

Day 1 sales are probably their best bet for Forces anyway, nobody is going to be buying this shit after people have had a week to see how bad it is.

>Pirating sonic forces

Its a photoshop, user. Thats the point

whenever sonic gets angry his forehead grows a cunt

There, i posted it.

Holy shit, I never noticed this.

I'd hit that

>Sonic has pushed his hand into the flesh of his leg.
Fuck...

That just shows how disgusted he is.

>Never buy day 1
>Never pre-order

A little self control can solve a lot of problems

>resistance
>denuvo

get cracked in a few weeks, less if the game turns out to be interesting, in the end it's a plight for buyers who will be required to stay online or other shenanigans
are they fucking stupid too?

In this case, "Who did this" is more grammatically correct. Any easy way to know the difference between the when to use who or whom is the repeat the question but answer it he for Who and him for Whom.

>Who did this?
>He did this.
>Him did this.

>This game is considered the best by whom?
>This game is considered the best by him.
>This game is considered the best by he.

Don't bother, user

>People don't realize Denuvo's only purpose is to maximize first week sales
I know many of you are brainlets, but don't be stupid.

>Excuses as always
Those first week sales tend to drop hard the moment Denuvo shows up.

Whomth dith thysnth

With the exception of Hitman, every game on the left is better than the one on the right.

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>mai neemu izu earisu

“The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.”
- Gabe Newell

kek

Daily reminder that Sega will start releasing Yakuza games with Denuvo within your lifetime.

Make a thread on the Steam discussions for the game about it. Don't reply to someone else's thread, make a new one. Clutter the forum with as many threads about Denuvo as possible.

Sensible chuckle/10

>Yakuza games
>PC
What?

You just got trolled, my friend.

pcgamer.com/yakuza-and-persona-are-on-that-list-of-games-sega-want-to-bring-to-pc/
Sega Europe are becoming increasing aware of their community's opinion (see the localization polls they do nowadays).

support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new
Tell Sega support you won't buy Sonic Forces unless they remove Denuvo.
steamcommunity.com/app/637100/discussions/
Make a new thread saying you won't buy Sonic Forces unless they remove Denuvo.

Also; wouldn't the games on the left have been out considerably longer and gone through several more price reductions and sales?

Most gamers don't even know what Denuvo is.

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>Persona
>PC
ahahahaahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

I fucking hate that shit. Like, nigga, the reason I have adblock in the first place is to stop shit from obstructing my screen in the first goddamned place.

Making a popup to ask me to disable adblock is not going to make me more inclined to help you, if anything, it'll make me LESS likely to go to your site at all if I can't find a way to disable that shit.

we've since learned that it's restricted to certain regions, and they haven't said which regions aren't getting it. i'm guessing it's related to atlus london forming and they're trying to sort out the rights to persona over there.

That's retarded, if that statement was true, then GOG games wouldn't be getting pirated up the ass
Big name game comes out on GOG, 3 seconds later it's reuploaded and torrented. By Gaben's logic, no DRM = no piracy. There's a contradiction here.

Piracy stems from the fact that people don't want to pay money for games, not because they're riddled with DRM

That's the fucking fallacy of all the anti-DRM people, they won't admit that they're just being cheap and use shit like Securom and Denuvo as excuses to pirate because "muh principles". Truth is, if nobody pirated games, there'd be no DRM. Denuvo was made as an answer to rampant day one piracy and it solved the problem. Games don't get cracked until 7 days later.

>games that have been out for years and had a gorillion sales vs newer games
>former selling more
woooow fucking broken denuvo mechanic

>DEEPEST LORE

>That's retarded, if that statement was true, then GOG games wouldn't be getting pirated up the ass
The point is to illustrate that when you give your consumers a decent service, piracy will no longer become the optimal way to get games. Think about it, why should I pay money for a game when I can wait a little longer, make sure the game isn't trash, and then download a crack a few days later? The industry has become scummy over the last few console gens and when companies are pulling shit like pic related, it's hard to have confidence in relation to video games anymore, which means that piracy will rise in response to it.
>Truth is, if nobody pirated games, there'd be no DRM.
False!

Even in a perfect world where people don't pirate games, publishers would still be trying to find ways to nickel and dime the consumer and limit what they can do with their product. I mean, look at the Xbone and how it tried to implement DRM to stop you from playing used games.

Already proven to be a lie.

>he doesn't use ublock origin
i can browse the site with it on, stop using adblock plus

You do realize that if the games didn't have Denuvo (or were, y'know, actually good) then they would've been able to dwarf the sales of the predecessor, right?

I mean, that's generally how it works. Release a popular sequel to a popular game and end up with sales that are either greater than or equal to the game that came before it. If that wasn't the case then the series would be dead.

DENUVO C U C K S BTFO

>Even in a perfect world where people don't pirate games, publishers would still be trying to find ways to nickel and dime the consumer and limit what they can do with their product. I mean, look at the Xbone and how it tried to implement DRM to stop you from playing used games.

You do realize that if everybody bought their own copies, Microsoft wouldn't push to disallow used games?

>PC gamers lose yet another game to DRM on their platform of freedom
>the most free platform of all time
>it only has an OS that spies on every bit of personal information you put on it
>it only has hardware that is compromised by the NSA
>b-but it's totally free guise
>c-consoles have spying too! Sony looks at what shit you're watching on Netflix and tracks what games you play!
remember, PC gaymen is about freedom :^)

You do realize that if people bought your product, they should be free to do whatever they want with it?

I don't even believe how people having the ability to own the games they bought is even a discussion point, let alone the topic of an actual fucking debate.

>some retard will actually use this as evidence that denuvo loses sales
if DRM didn't work, steam wouldn't exist right now.

>dude it's just how it works lmao like just trust me bruh
i still fail to see the numbers that somehow prove whatever you're saying and don't give me this shit again >doesn't account for discounts, resulting prices and reviews at the very least

if you wanna pirate games, just shut the fuck up and wait for crack, jesus. you don't have to be such bitchboys about it

just install the adblock blocker blocker

Are fucking serious? Please go fuck yourself you worthless corporate slave cunt.

How about you stop being a whiny bitch and start giving us some numbers that prove that Denuvo actually increases sales?

Oh wait, you won't, because you're either a butthurt Denuvocuck or you're a troll who is just here for (you)'s. If it's true, it shouldn't be that hard to find using google and if you don't post proof in the next post, I'm just going to ignore you from here on out.

>Shitsona games
I'd rather have the superior SMT games on pc.

>I mean, that's generally how it works. Release a popular sequel to a popular game and end up with sales that are either greater than or equal to the game that came before it.
This. Remember when Dark Souls 3 was released? It had 130k concurrent players. When DS2 released it had 80k concurrent players, and DS1 has 11k. All because they were good games with no bullshit DRM attached to them.
Sega is shooting themselves in the foot. They're fucking stupid and they're paying denuvo to make their sales lower.

If everyone bought their own games instead of being cheap and buying used and pirating, there'd be no need to invent artificial restrictions to prevent these very things.

Region locking happened because of the same reasons - poeple wanting to be cheap, some economies are poorer, so the games and movies are cheaper there. People from wealthy countries like the US would end up buying from poorer countries, often in huge number to then resell at a higher price, hurting the industry in the end. If that hadn't happened, neither would region locks.

I am 80% sure that image is a joke. Reverse image search comes up with absolutely nothing, and the Sonic Twitter would have said something about it.

Forces may have Denuvo, but the backlash from Mania might 'force' them to remove it.

>claims first week sales suffer because of denuvo
>his only "proof" is total number of copies sold
>now wants me to prove something i never claimed or else he's going to ignore me

>Forces may have Denuvo
not "may" have it. the steam page already says it has denuvo

Denuvo hurts no one except pirates

You can't play offline in games with Denuvo.
The second it gets cracked, it hurts everyone BUT pirates.

>If everyone bought their own games instead of being cheap and buying used and pirating, there'd be no need to invent artificial restrictions to prevent these very things.
Except that we both know that's not true, because corporations are always looking for new and exciting ways to fuck over the consumer in the interests of profit. When you try to tell people what they can and can't do, you end up breeding resistance, which also hurts your brand, which also tends to lead to less sales overall unless you're dealing with a franchise that has a fanbase that can sustain itself.

Think about it, who is the savvy consumer going to do their business with, the guy who gives them what they want without any hassle or the guy who keeps setting up roadblocks between them and the thing that they want, while also treating them like thieves?

>has denuvo
Shit. And here I was, going to get the game officially in October for PC.

Enjoy your shit performance, enjoy your no mods, enjoy your no online, enjoy your no game once publisher servers go down.

>No proof
Okay shitposter, it was a good run but unfortunately I gtg. Here's a (you) for the road slick, 2/10: almost believed.

Actually, as a pirate, the worst that happens to me is that I have to wait a little longer to play a game. Still getting it for free, while the buycucks have to deal with the DRM shit.

>gets btfo
>suddenly leaves thread
guess you really need to return those videotapes

I have literally just booted up Doom and Rise of the Tomb Raider in offline mode.

I'd like to see an actual fps chart reflecting how denuvo causes poor performance. This is nothing but he said she said from sensationalist retards

>millions of authentication calls that the CPU has to deal with surely don't affect performance! proof?? proof??
>doom gained 30 fps when it had denuvo removed???? doesn't count
this is your mind on autism

>I have literally just booted up Doom and Rise of the Tomb Raider in offline mode.
>Accusing others of he said, she said
Buycucks are retareded af.

Can you back up your claim?

you know both doom and rotr had denuvo removed, right?

Anyone remind me why DRM is so bad, other than forcing your game to be played online only?

Can you? Also

no, kys

>“correlation does not imply causation” the post
I'm against Denuvo, but, come on user.

It's bad because if the servers ever go down, you automatically lose the ability to play the games that you originally bought, meaning that you would have to choose between either piracy anyways, or buying the same game again.

There's also the fact that some DRM can actually fuck with your machine as well, like SecureROM did in the past.

Please tell me you're baiting and you're not actually this retarded.

1. Almost all the games on the left were received better than the games on the right, and not because of denuvo but because of the gameplay.

2. All games on the left have been released longer.

3. All games on the left have a lower price than the games on the right.

4. All games on the left have been in bundles like humble bundle etc more often than the games on the right. Some even literally got given away for free.

Of course Denuvo doesn't increase sales, because most pirates wouldn't buy the games anyway, but your arguments and "proof" is pure bullshit.

>reddit spacing
>pro denuvo
lmao like pottery

Is Denuvo the world's first meme marketed DRM outside of Steam?
>Always various sockpuppet accounts saying they won't buy the game UNLESS it has Denuvo ONLY on Steam forums
>Proven harmful to performance and sales and the responses always equate to "lol no it's not"
Sega spent a shit ton to "protect" a $20 game that was delayed for nearly two weeks and cracked in about a day.
How is this shit still being used legitimately.
Games would instantly be better without it.

IT'S NOT FAIR!

Piracy increases sales! If they would let me play this game for free on my old potato laptop they would be rolling in sales. If I have to pay I am gonna leave it a bad review! Same if it's an unoptimized piece of shit that can't even run on a laptop that's only 5 years old. If I pirated the game and liked it I would have told buyfags to buy it, and now Sega is gonna miss out on all of those sales! Serves them right!

>"Trolling is a art" -Denuvo

What'd did they mean by this?

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It's been permanently on there since Sonic Adventure, regardless of emotion and it looks awful

>people in this thread who are pro denuvo
not sure about anyone else but i actually want to be able to play my games when the inevitable race war kills the internet for good

Oh no, I guess I'll have to settle with the hundreds of games I can ACTUALLY pirate. Oh woe is me.

Remember to look up the proper .ini edits to make sure they will work on your laptop.

Been there, done that.

>games with denuvo properly removed have had huge boosts in performance
>b-b-b-but nobody's put it in a fancy infographic for me, and those never lie

WHOM'ST

i'm sure you can play your new mobile game in bluestacks user

Me

>By Gaben's logic, no DRM = no piracy
That's not the point of what he's saying. The whole point of that quote is that maximizing profit (spending more money on the service selling games) is better than minimizing loss (spending money on a service to prevent losing some game sales) Or in other words, the best way to combat loss from pirates is by banking more money on the legal buyers. If you had to spend 300k on DRM or 300k on advertising your game, what do you think would make you more money, considering pirates will break DRM anyways?

SEEEEGAAAA

Was mania cracked? I guess I've been living under a rock then.

It got cracked in like three days user.