Now that the dust has settled, can we have an honest conversation about why the Wii U was a failure...

Now that the dust has settled, can we have an honest conversation about why the Wii U was a failure? Was it released too early? Was it underpowered? What do you think?

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Bad advertising (at a glance it would look like a Wii peripheral rather than a new console), too early, little third party support, no "console mover" titles like BotW was for the Switch.

I own one and got my money's worth with 4 games (Bayo 2, W101, Xeno, BotW), but god damn was it a misfire of a console.

>console mover
Killer app you mean?

No marketing and a shit name.
Normies don't even know it exists at all.

This. It was a series of bad decisions that Nintendo decided to just keep digging even deeper on until it was FUBAR

Oh, I had no idea there was a word for this. Thanks user.

Also the name.
They thought it was a wii accessory.

It was so bad that I will never buy another game console ever again. It is THE rehash machine at best with the most deluded fan base of all time. To nintendo's credit, they've nearly tempted me with prime 4 and odyssey but emulation can wait if they don't do even better.

Should I throw mine out? I've already played all the games worth playing.

>Was it underpowered?
When will this meme die?
GameCube was powerful

Hack it if you didn't already and keep for emulation.

I already did that and I can just emulate on my PC

You could probably sell it to somebody who wants to play BotW but doesn't want to go all in with the Switch. I gave mine to my parents to use as a Netflix machine.

Poorly marketed. It'll be seen as the Sega CD of this gen, weird hardware no one bought that actually has a solid library.

Unless everything gets ported to the switch, then it will be forgotten except for a few things like Rainbow Curse and Fatal Frame that utilize the tablet well.

I don't know anyone like that.

Stupid gaijin donto know differento, isunto our faruto

>Also the name
That's what I said. Try actually reading a post in its entirety before replying.

no retard hack the wiiu you have wii games with their native controllers, gc games with their native controllers, snes/nes games with wii adapter

Yeah my bad was on mobile

I hate Wii games and I can use those controllers on PC anyways

Really shitty battery of the gamepad and awkward charging unless you buy a 3rd party accessory
Console itself is fine, pleasant UI, plays Wii, S/NES, GBA, DS games

I wouldnt call the wii u a failure. Sure its easily the last place console of its gen but it still had decent games and tried to innovate. It also had smash 4 as its killer app which definitely sold the console. A failure is something like the virtual boy.

>but it still had decent games
As someone who actually owns the dustcase, you are wrong.

He's a trip-retard, don't respond to his degeneracy.

Nothing personnel kid.

I know this is said all the time, but I'm pretty sure this is it. I think part of the Switch's success is because people think it's the first Nintendo system we've had since the Wii.

Also has the only non-poorly coded N64 emulator in existence

Here we go with this ancient ritual once more, the never ending dance of anons:

Bayo 2
Smash
Mario Kart
W101
Fatal Frame
Hyrule Warriors
Kirby Rainbow Curse
Nintendoland
MH3U
Splatoon

Now tell me these games are all shit and we can complete the ritual and be on our way.

name and advertisement, that's it.

When 90% of it's good games are all incentives to buy the most successful console now, you realize that gaming actually has nothing to do with games, and everything to do with money and glitter.

They presented it so bad that even the people at and watching the e3 presentation that it was revealed thought it was an add on peripheral.
They didn't even show the console base, not that it would have mattered since the base also looks very similar to the wii.
It's called a wiiu for fucks sake.

They were trying so hard to make it ride on the coattails of the wii's success that to any outside observer that isn't heavily into games just thinks it's an expensive wii add on.
Shit, when the people watching the e3 presentation thought it was, there's no way the average user wouldn't also.

I can just buy those on Switch though

Splatoon is shit because Splatoon 2 is a major upgrade in every way

Bayonetta 1 and 2
pikmin 3
Wonderful 101
Smash 4
Mario 3d world
Splatoon
Mario maker
Dkc tropical freeze
It also has botw

This is the part where respond to me with some shitpost about how all these games are shit and im retarded or something.

I could've just waited a measly 2 years and I can buy those on Switch
I really wish I would have just skipped the Wii U entirely

See you in 2 or 3 years then

?

Everyone was sick and bored of the Wii at this point. Naming it the Wii U was a terrible mistake since it immediately made people think it was just an updated Wii.

>tfw skipped the Wii U entirely
Feels good man

Though I do want some ports like Bayo 1+2 for switch

The overall bottom line is the marketing and overall bad messaging from Nintendo.

To this day, a lot people still think the Wii U is a Wii add on and that the Switch is the first Nintendo console in a decade.

Branding. It should have never been called the Wii U. It made people think it was an overpriced Wii addon rather than a new console.

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY HAVE TO CALL IT THE WII U
They could've called it any fucking thing else. Why not call this the nintendo switch, or the nintendo screen. Fucking something.
The fact that they held onto the wii name was a big fuck you to anyone that wanted to take them seriously, and it confused a lot of the casuals too

It's backwards compatible, so it might as well be

No one forced you to buy a switch retard. Why do you wish you "could have" skipped it? Did reggie physically break into your house and anally rape you until you bought one?

Sure, but you can't yet and couldn't then.

Shit meant to write wii u not switch.

When those games get ports (they won't)

What I meant is that I wish I would've been smart enough to skip it

It had some alright games, but that list is literally all the fucking console had. If you didn't like nintendo you were shit out of luck. If you didn't like a loli squid shooter marketed towards children, then you didn't get a shooter. If you didn't like rainbow bright mariokart, than you didn't get a racer
Nintendo released some good games for the system but they were released months apart from each other and they only release so many games that you can actually take seriously.

Nah, he's right.
Nobody at lauch could have predicted the Wii U would be a second Virtual Boy

Hyrule Warriors is complete shit, can't believe I let shills on Sup Forums talk me into buying it full price.

>Love my WiiU
>From purchasing it in 2012 until the 2016 drought it was easily my most played console among a 3DS, Vita, and PC as well
>Be put through untold suffering because of my love for the WiiU
>The Switch doesn't carry over a lot of what I loved about the WiiU's design and features
I just wanted to see this odd little console do well. Is that so much to ask?
>PS4 has sold like 4 times+ the WiiU and WiiU has had twice the great exclusives until Sony finally got some momentum going and games actually releasing after they already had 80 million sales
>Wasn't even a sixth gen situation where it was close to Microsoft. The Xbone, despite having literally one worthwhile title, Sunset Overdrive, sold way more than the WiiU
>Vita got skullfucked by Sony getting sued over hiring an incompetent marketing team and getting barred from advertising the Vita
>The worst 3DS games of all time were the final nail in the Vita's coffin
>3DS started good and lost all traction when the new! 3DS came out, it's just a JRPG machine that wont die now
This entire fucking gen has been an affront to good taste. Fucking christ.

Pad was dumb
Everyone thought it was just a wii accessory
Weird hybrid of the hardware being designed for normie casuals and the software trying desperately to appeal to the core so it didn’t really appeal to anyone. It’s like they thought the Wii Sports fans would buy it on name alone and then jump right in to Wonderful 101 or something.

3DS had way more and better games than Wii U, you're insane.

Early in yeah. 3DS ended in early 2015 as far as I'm concerned. There's been 2 notable titles that aren't just garbage JRPG slop since then. Robobot and Samus Returns

There's more 3DS games to play but the WiiU games are better

>3DS ended in early 2015 as far as I'm concerned
So did Wii U, Xenoblade X was the last good Wii U game. The only ones that came out after that were garbage like Color Splash and Twilight Princess """""""""HD"""""""""""

Circle back to
>There's more 3DS games to play but the WiiU games are better
Kid Icarus Uprising is the only 3DS game that holds a candle to the WiiU's library.

I hope they fired whoever thought it was good to NOT EVEN ONCE show or mention the actual console in Wii U's reveal trailer

>Kid Icarus Uprising is the only 3DS game that holds a candle to the WiiU's library.
absolutely not, 3DS has a ton of good games
you seem to be holding 3DS to a much higher standard than the Wii U

They replaced the head of marketing with a guy from EA named Doug Bowser and he and Iwata worked personally to create the Switch's marketing campaign iirc.
>Kikeshima is getting the credit for Iwata's posthumous success when his only contribution was jacking up the prices on peripherals and controllers and cutting corners on the design of the console
It hurts.

this desu, nu-nintendo is 10x more jew than iwata nintendo. monkeys paw

You seem to be forgiving shit games because they're for a handheld. Robobot is legitimately the only other game I'd give you as far as stacking up to the WiiU library. Every single other 3DS title I've played I'd call "Good for a handheld game" instead of just "good".

You seem to be far too forgiving of 3DS games just because the consoles the games they're on is a hilariously weak piece of shit.

You comparing the wii u to the virtual boy is how i know you have a single digit iq.

to be fair poor third party support is something you can say about any nintendo console

>Bowser
>Kikeshima
Those aren't real names right?

You're telling me that you think garbage like Captain Toad and Kirby Rainbow Curse is good yet 3DS games like SMT are bad? You're a fucking joke my dude

Nes and snes had shit loads of 3rd party games you underage twat.

Doug Bowser is for real. Kikeshima is a nickname

>a hilariously weak piece of shit.
...and the Wii U somehow isn't?

Nintendo will have to port some more games desu

SMT IV wasn't good and Persona Q wasn't good and most everything else has been ports of other consoles SMT titles.
#TMS is legitimately the best SMT game on Nintendo consoles this gen
>Garbage like Captain Toad and Kirby Rainbow Curse
So you haven't played them? They're fun. They're short. But if that's so much of a deal breaker for you how do you like the 3DS again? The only games that aren't pitifully short are 100 hour shit tier JRPGs.

I bet next you'll tell me that you think the 3DS versions of WiiU titles are superior. Jesus fucking christ dude.

>240p and shit framerate on a tiny uncomfortable handheld is the same thing as a console that runs some games at 720p but pretty much everything at 60 or 30 stable

>#TMS is legitimately the best SMT game on Nintendo consoles this gen
no, no it is not
and its still worse than Persona 5
>So you haven't played them?
I've played both, Kirby is decent but I will fight you if you say Color Trash is a good game

>Captain Toad
>Suddenly Color Splash
Wow look at those goalposts fly.

The Wii U is what convinced me not to listen to Sup Forums

>#TMS is legitimately the best SMT game on Nintendo consoles this gen

Oh well excuse me autisomo every modern nintendo conole, and I'm not underaged I had a fucking super nintendo, everything n64 and onwards is that specific enough for you?

>A bunch of SMT games that aren't 3DS games
>Etrian Odyssey shite with a Persona skin
>SMT IV
>SMT IV We swear it's not bad this time addition
#TMS was way fucking better than any of the 3DS titles.

EO and both SMTs were better than TMS garbage

You have profoundly shit tastes.

TMS is literally for homos
youtube.com/watch?v=Iw51f9Qnmhs

Terrible presentation. Bad advertising. Name. No third party support.

Ah so you're a special needs child who doesn't prioritize gameplay. Got it.

yes I love sitting through 10 minutes of session animations in every random encounter

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